View Full Version : Some one Explain how the hell this happen....
killerfanges
03-06-2013, 11:59 PM
Mar 01 2013, 07:12:19 CET Killed ,,,,, at Level 15 unjustified
Mar 01 2013, 07:01:45 CET Killed .......at Level 15 unjustified
Mar 01 2013, 06:47:53 CET Killed .........at Level 15 unjustified
I was at mutated humans killing stuff and i come back dead i have a red skull explain to me how this guy fricken did this im sooo pissed ! i wasnt even usning a area spell all i used was a spell that shot arrows at the rat but thats it!
RoxZin xD
03-07-2013, 12:41 AM
Easy to do that, to be honest. Won't explain to you how because... I do that quite often. :p
killerfanges
03-07-2013, 12:46 AM
can you pm please i so confused how he even go to me and lived
Gordo
03-07-2013, 06:18 AM
Easy to do that, to be honest. Won't explain to you how because... I do that quite often. :p
whats him knowing how it happen, affect your ability to do this?
unless you were doing it to him.
Freakshow
03-07-2013, 06:22 AM
whats him knowing how it happen, affect your ability to do this?
unless you were doing it to him.
Because he can tell an other person that tells an other person that tells an other person and so on.
Gordo
03-07-2013, 06:24 AM
Because he can tell an other person that tells an other person that tells an other person and so on.
i doubt him telling how he does it, will get pass 10 people :rolleyes:
Freakshow
03-07-2013, 06:38 AM
i doubt him telling how he does it, will get pass 10 people :rolleyes:
Or it will because he wants to try it out himself.
Gordo
03-07-2013, 06:47 AM
Or it will because he wants to try it out himself.
we may never know......(vision fades into the horizon). hahaha
zodiacboner
03-07-2013, 07:42 AM
How do you use a spell to shoot arrows at the rat? Exori con? And this just doesnt make sense btw..
RoxZin xD
03-07-2013, 02:00 PM
It's because I'm not sure if Xenobot works like that, but I'm sure you guys remember how people got RS with NeoBot with something related to parcels? :o
desche188
03-07-2013, 02:18 PM
kill the creature as he targets it while your in front of the person and he will skull on you and than all you have to do is party kill the guy
fenol
03-07-2013, 02:23 PM
How do you use a spell to shoot arrows at the rat? Exori con? And this just doesnt make sense btw..
if you used exori con it doesnt make sense no but if u used exori san it does thats all i got to say
fenol
03-07-2013, 02:35 PM
[QUOTE=desche188
telling that to people will just get more botters fucked up since you are a botter that makes u retarded so please remove that comment
desche188
03-07-2013, 02:47 PM
[QUOTE=@desche188 (http://forums.xenobot.net/member.php?u=666)
telling that to people will just get more botters fucked up since you are a botter that makes u retarded so please remove that comment
i am not going to remove my comment because you are afraid of death just get a anti-face script plus everyone knows this e.g. red skull log traps
fenol
03-07-2013, 02:50 PM
[QUOTE=fenol;145861]
i am not going to remove my comment because you are afraid of death just get a anti-face script plus everyone knows this e.g. red skull log traps
Trolololol kiddo , im a knight and noone can make me skull/RS im only telling for other players sake making something known for more people only ruins it for others =) but nice try to troll please try again vs somone around your age 8-12
desche188
03-07-2013, 02:54 PM
[QUOTE=desche188;145866]
Trolololol kiddo , im a knight and noone can make me skull/RS im only telling for other players sake making something known for more people only ruins it for others =) but nice try to troll please try again vs somone around your age 8-12
i am not trying to troll. i am stating that im not going to remove something because someone is having a sad about it. I am 17 and you are of no interest to speak to if you think people are trolling you when they are speaking their mind. [/CARING]
sausting
03-07-2013, 05:04 PM
well you are exposing a way to abuse a xeno weakness...on the xeno forums...It's not in the technical support section either. Your post will only lead to more skulling attempts on xeno users..Lowering the quality of experience, for everyone. Get it?
If you don't understand yet, give it some time. Maturity isn't to be rushed.
killerfanges
03-07-2013, 06:38 PM
So you guys are telling me traped me some how and while doing this he didn't die and he manage to step infrount of me while i shoot my arrow spell and it hit him.....
RoxZin xD
03-07-2013, 09:57 PM
Trolololol kiddo , im a knight and noone can make me skull/RS im only telling for other players sake making something known for more people only ruins it for others =) but nice try to troll please try again vs somone around your age 8-12
Hey bro I'm sorry but EKs are the most easy to do this trap, if it's the one I'm thinking that they made him (parcel one).
Were you using Exevo Mas San as well? If you were (and if you were hunting mutated humans on ground floor) it's easy too.
invisible child
03-07-2013, 11:28 PM
For mages it's easiest to rs them,
You should get a script that crashes tibia client when you skull on someone
zodiacboner
03-08-2013, 04:30 AM
So basically theirs a flaw in xeno because if you stand infront of anyone and kill their monster they retarget you? Dont make sense. This would work with anything pretty much.
REGAURDLESS I KNEW THE ANSWER WOULD BE REVEALED, ZODIACBONER TALKS THE WALK maybe idk
desche188
03-08-2013, 06:55 AM
Hey bro I'm sorry but EKs are the most easy to do this trap, if it's the one I'm thinking that they made him (parcel one).
Were you using Exevo Mas San as well? If you were (and if you were hunting mutated humans on ground floor) it's easy too.
wut i didnt post that
robertOlson
03-08-2013, 07:42 AM
I was at mutated humans killing stuff and i come back dead i have a red skull explain to me how this guy fricken did this im sooo pissed ! i wasnt even usning a area spell all i used was a spell that shot arrows at the rat but thats it!
You should take out the name of the guy you killed, is really easy to know the name of your character..
Freakshow
03-08-2013, 08:10 AM
You should take out the name of the guy you killed, is really easy to know the name of your character..
Word.
fenol
03-08-2013, 08:14 AM
Hey bro I'm sorry but EKs are the most easy to do this trap, if it's the one I'm thinking that they made him (parcel one).
Were you using Exevo Mas San as well? If you were (and if you were hunting mutated humans on ground floor) it's easy too.
Eks easiest? not gonna go into this argument but ive done 150 so far 0 skulls =)
Avani
03-08-2013, 09:09 AM
i like trains
Use a safe exori script next time :)
fenol
03-08-2013, 09:53 AM
Use a safe exori script next time :)
hehe if u read the topic he is a paladin , he used exori san i guess instead of con therefore he got skulled :P
Bollo
03-08-2013, 09:54 AM
Yeah, thats why u should NEVER 100% afk bot a mage, they just stand in front of u, kill creep 0.001 before u do == u exori flam out forward = u get skulled. 3 times = RS.
killerfanges
03-08-2013, 10:41 PM
You should take out the name of the guy you killed, is really easy to know the name of your character..
Thanks man can you also take it out of your reply :)
robertOlson
03-08-2013, 10:49 PM
Thanks man can you also take it out of your reply :)
Done.. ask Avani as well.
Avani
killerfanges
03-08-2013, 11:07 PM
Can you take his name out of your reply please :)
XtrmJosh
03-09-2013, 01:10 AM
There are several ways to get people red skulled:
1. If they are shooting a spell which doesn't require a target, i.e exori san, exori vis, etc, then stand in front of them and kill their mob 1.9s after they last shot a strike spell. This works because bots build up event queues to be executed, and if the timing is right a job can be added to an event queue (in which normally it will only stay for a few ms) just before the mob dies, and soon after the mob dies the job will be executed, resulting in the spell being casted without a target. This is more of a threat to those with high latency.
2. If they are not using any spells you can do the same thing, but as the mob dies walk onto the sqm which it died on. This requires some pretty delicate timing, if you're quick enough it will work because in memory the creature is still marked as having a HP % which is not 0 until your client receives the packet to say that it is dead. If the person luring has a better connection, even just 10ms better, they can kill you with this trick.
3. Place a rune on top of the corpse which has just died, as the bot goes to loot it it will right click the corpse, a bad script or mildly flawed bot design will then left click elsewhere on screen and use the rune. A fire bomb or similar can get red skull quite easily. This does not rely on connection but the design of the bot, for instance XB looks for corpse IDs on the ground. iBot and RBP I believe rely on the last known coordinates of the creature which they are trying to loot, so it will be more effective on those. On XB you're looking at relying, once again, on connection, as if the bot reads the corpse ID it will add the right click command to the job queue, then as the job is executed there may suddenly be a rune on top of the corpse, and the command is to use the top ground item of X, Y, Z.
The others are primarily for bots which use mouse clicks but they are:
4. Use parcels to put yourself "in front of" the target monster, force the bot to stop attacking the monster and start again (by pushing him off & back onto screen), and when he re-enters he will attack you. Not sure if this still works, but it did used to, basically when you right click a "stack" of creatures / players, you target the one which is graphically top-most.
5. Use a staircase or levitate spot to stand in the same sqm as a monster surrounded by field runes, again, push the botter off and back onto screen and he will try to attack the monster which you are on top of. This works because the bot will try to attack the creature which is on the same SQM, and once again when you right click a "stack" of creatures or players, you target the one which is graphically top-most.
Some of these are like 5% success rate, others closer to 80%, but they all work / have worked at some point in the last few months.
Anyone who does this and bots is a hypocrite, and I would urge them to stop for the sake of keeping bots alive. If you kill someone 2-3 times, they get mad, they stop using their script cause it gets them killed. If they can't find another, a lot of the time they just stop botting, stop paying for their bot, and the developers lose customers. On top of that, they could have turned out to be top scripters and released a ton of awesome shit, so you could be losing out to. If that's not enough, finally, they are just like you, trying to get that edge which we all strive for, what gives you the right to take that from them? I mean, it's not like you're going to benefit other than by having a slightly more free spawn for a few hours...
Luring on / killing a fellow botter is fowl play, and although I'm not going to condemn people who do it, I don't appreciate people doing it.
I'll also point out here (as I haven't expressed this before here that I recall) that you should never report another botter. The more reports CIP get, the more they know about botters. If people only report 100% guaranteed botters, we are gonna get ass-fucked hard. The best thing that anyone can do is to report people who are not botting. That will fuck up the system and CIP will hopefully begin to ban fair players, resulting in us getting a bit more freedom to bot and enjoy.
dani619
03-09-2013, 03:13 PM
There are several ways to get people red skulled:
1. If they are shooting a spell which doesn't require a target, i.e exori san, exori vis, etc, then stand in front of them and kill their mob 1.9s after they last shot a strike spell. This works because bots build up event queues to be executed, and if the timing is right a job can be added to an event queue (in which normally it will only stay for a few ms) just before the mob dies, and soon after the mob dies the job will be executed, resulting in the spell being casted without a target. This is more of a threat to those with high latency.
2. If they are not using any spells you can do the same thing, but as the mob dies walk onto the sqm which it died on. This requires some pretty delicate timing, if you're quick enough it will work because in memory the creature is still marked as having a HP % which is not 0 until your client receives the packet to say that it is dead. If the person luring has a better connection, even just 10ms better, they can kill you with this trick.
3. Place a rune on top of the corpse which has just died, as the bot goes to loot it it will right click the corpse, a bad script or mildly flawed bot design will then left click elsewhere on screen and use the rune. A fire bomb or similar can get red skull quite easily. This does not rely on connection but the design of the bot, for instance XB looks for corpse IDs on the ground. iBot and RBP I believe rely on the last known coordinates of the creature which they are trying to loot, so it will be more effective on those. On XB you're looking at relying, once again, on connection, as if the bot reads the corpse ID it will add the right click command to the job queue, then as the job is executed there may suddenly be a rune on top of the corpse, and the command is to use the top ground item of X, Y, Z.
The others are primarily for bots which use mouse clicks but they are:
4. Use parcels to put yourself "in front of" the target monster, force the bot to stop attacking the monster and start again (by pushing him off & back onto screen), and when he re-enters he will attack you. Not sure if this still works, but it did used to, basically when you right click a "stack" of creatures / players, you target the one which is graphically top-most.
5. Use a staircase or levitate spot to stand in the same sqm as a monster surrounded by field runes, again, push the botter off and back onto screen and he will try to attack the monster which you are on top of. This works because the bot will try to attack the creature which is on the same SQM, and once again when you right click a "stack" of creatures or players, you target the one which is graphically top-most.
Some of these are like 5% success rate, others closer to 80%, but they all work / have worked at some point in the last few months.
Anyone who does this and bots is a hypocrite, and I would urge them to stop for the sake of keeping bots alive. If you kill someone 2-3 times, they get mad, they stop using their script cause it gets them killed. If they can't find another, a lot of the time they just stop botting, stop paying for their bot, and the developers lose customers. On top of that, they could have turned out to be top scripters and released a ton of awesome shit, so you could be losing out to. If that's not enough, finally, they are just like you, trying to get that edge which we all strive for, what gives you the right to take that from them? I mean, it's not like you're going to benefit other than by having a slightly more free spawn for a few hours...
Luring on / killing a fellow botter is fowl play, and although I'm not going to condemn people who do it, I don't appreciate people doing it.
I'll also point out here (as I haven't expressed this before here that I recall) that you should never report another botter. The more reports CIP get, the more they know about botters. If people only report 100% guaranteed botters, we are gonna get ass-fucked hard. The best thing that anyone can do is to report people who are not botting. That will fuck up the system and CIP will hopefully begin to ban fair players, resulting in us getting a bit more freedom to bot and enjoy.
i didnt realy understood how 4. works, can you explain beter please?
XtrmJosh
03-09-2013, 08:51 PM
i didnt realy understood how 4. works, can you explain beter please?
Look at this map:
XXXXX
XXCXX
XXXYX
XXXXX
Consider C is the Creature, and Y is You.
Image how it will look if you are on top of 3 parcels, you will block the view of the creature. That in turns means that when the bot tries to right click on the creature, you will be in the way, thus he will right click on you, taking a skull.
dani619
03-09-2013, 08:58 PM
Look at this map:
XXXXX
XXCXX
XXXYX
XXXXX
Consider C is the Creature, and Y is You.
Image how it will look if you are on top of 3 parcels, you will block the view of the creature. That in turns means that when the bot tries to right click on the creature, you will be in the way, thus he will right click on you, taking a skull.
that will happen only if the pk mode is on....
RoxZin xD
03-10-2013, 01:51 AM
But there are infinite ways to make you get a frag without being skulled. :D
kubax36
03-10-2013, 01:58 AM
There are several ways to get people red skulled:
1. If they are shooting a spell which doesn't require a target, i.e exori san, exori vis, etc, then stand in front of them and kill their mob 1.9s after they last shot a strike spell. This works because bots build up event queues to be executed, and if the timing is right a job can be added to an event queue (in which normally it will only stay for a few ms) just before the mob dies, and soon after the mob dies the job will be executed, resulting in the spell being casted without a target. This is more of a threat to those with high latency.
2. If they are not using any spells you can do the same thing, but as the mob dies walk onto the sqm which it died on. This requires some pretty delicate timing, if you're quick enough it will work because in memory the creature is still marked as having a HP % which is not 0 until your client receives the packet to say that it is dead. If the person luring has a better connection, even just 10ms better, they can kill you with this trick.
3. Place a rune on top of the corpse which has just died, as the bot goes to loot it it will right click the corpse, a bad script or mildly flawed bot design will then left click elsewhere on screen and use the rune. A fire bomb or similar can get red skull quite easily. This does not rely on connection but the design of the bot, for instance XB looks for corpse IDs on the ground. iBot and RBP I believe rely on the last known coordinates of the creature which they are trying to loot, so it will be more effective on those. On XB you're looking at relying, once again, on connection, as if the bot reads the corpse ID it will add the right click command to the job queue, then as the job is executed there may suddenly be a rune on top of the corpse, and the command is to use the top ground item of X, Y, Z.
The others are primarily for bots which use mouse clicks but they are:
4. Use parcels to put yourself "in front of" the target monster, force the bot to stop attacking the monster and start again (by pushing him off & back onto screen), and when he re-enters he will attack you. Not sure if this still works, but it did used to, basically when you right click a "stack" of creatures / players, you target the one which is graphically top-most.
5. Use a staircase or levitate spot to stand in the same sqm as a monster surrounded by field runes, again, push the botter off and back onto screen and he will try to attack the monster which you are on top of. This works because the bot will try to attack the creature which is on the same SQM, and once again when you right click a "stack" of creatures or players, you target the one which is graphically top-most.
Some of these are like 5% success rate, others closer to 80%, but they all work / have worked at some point in the last few months.
Anyone who does this and bots is a hypocrite, and I would urge them to stop for the sake of keeping bots alive. If you kill someone 2-3 times, they get mad, they stop using their script cause it gets them killed. If they can't find another, a lot of the time they just stop botting, stop paying for their bot, and the developers lose customers. On top of that, they could have turned out to be top scripters and released a ton of awesome shit, so you could be losing out to. If that's not enough, finally, they are just like you, trying to get that edge which we all strive for, what gives you the right to take that from them? I mean, it's not like you're going to benefit other than by having a slightly more free spawn for a few hours...
Luring on / killing a fellow botter is fowl play, and although I'm not going to condemn people who do it, I don't appreciate people doing it.
I'll also point out here (as I haven't expressed this before here that I recall) that you should never report another botter. The more reports CIP get, the more they know about botters. If people only report 100% guaranteed botters, we are gonna get ass-fucked hard. The best thing that anyone can do is to report people who are not botting. That will fuck up the system and CIP will hopefully begin to ban fair players, resulting in us getting a bit more freedom to bot and enjoy.
u can make someone skulled on xenobot only in 1st way. 2nd, 3rd and 4th u can do only if someone is using bots with simulated keyboard and mouse.
kubax36
03-10-2013, 02:03 AM
But there are infinite ways to make you get a frag without being skulled. :D
Its not working with this bot, xeno is integrated with client and even if someone is botting on zombies and you have char named "ZOMBIE" it wont target you as Ibot do.
that will happen only if the pk mode is on....
that wont NEVER happen on xeno
XtrmJosh
03-10-2013, 02:19 AM
that will happen only if the pk mode is on....
Yeah, but a lot of people don't realise or understand it as a potential way of getting skulled...
zodiacboner
03-10-2013, 03:49 AM
Is their any other bots that this can happen too? It seems their should
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