Cipsoft Might Aswell

[BigBratti]

Soo from tibia 7.8 to now we have seen "Cipsoft" steal and copyright ideas from famous known programmers.
From health bars to experience calculators even the aiming system all stolen nothing original besides this faggot swap shit was produced by them. I say we all make a new account flood the forum boards with this message...

(Sorry I forgot to mention that the whole offline trainers was an idea inspired by ot servers)

"You let us "Aimbot", you steal our ideas and compile them into your stand alone client. Why down you just Produce your own "BoT" and sell it like your premium account so everyone has a fair shot at your out of date horribly addicting game? Instead of "Deleting" accounts promote the idea of "Botting" sell the shit out of it put DarkstaR out of commission and let everyone get on with there lives?"

P.S We all adore you darkstar i just want to see bots allowed on tibia due to the fact most of us have lives and the grind on tibia is retarded.... With a bot none the less manual... i'd rather watch twilight with a baby cactus crammed up my ass..

[xodetdead]

Soo from tibia 7.8 to now we have seen "Cipsoft" steal and copyright ideas from famous known programmers.
From health bars to experience calculators even the aiming system all stolen nothing original besides this faggot swap shit was produced by them. I say we all make a new account flood the forum boards with this message...

"You let us "Aimbot", you steal our ideas and compile them into your stand alone client. Why down you just Produce your own "BoT" and sell it like your premium account so everyone has a fair shot at your out of date horribly addicting game? Instead of "Deleting" accounts promote the idea of "Botting" sell the shit out of it put DarkstaR out of commission and let everyone get on with there lives?"

P.S We all adore you darkstar i just want to see bots allowed on tibia due to the fact most of us have lives and the grind on tibia, I'm retarded.... With a bot none the less manual... i'd rather watch twilight with a baby cactus crammed up my ass..

Am I the only one not getting the main point of this post?

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[BigBratti]

xodetdead
Your obviously new to the English language and apparently born yesterday. point of the thread was the fact that once apon a time your little hotkey function for runes and items did not exist. "HENCE" they gave the community a "Cipsoft" made aimbot. If you did not know this then i suggest you alt F4 life. With that being said the whole point to this "Discussion" is what if we got a community of people to "Complain/harass" on the boards simply stating facts.
Fact 1 bots will live forever
Fact 2 if everyone had a bot who would complain
Fact 3 not only would it relieve them of all the complaints about botting if they marketed it they'd make that much more money
Fact 4 Anyone who prefers a 2D game to a 3D game is either 1 retarded or 2 is a 13 year old with no source of income and pc cannot support anything better then tibia... -.- cause lets face it if there was no bot for tibia this game would have been dead to me when i was like what 10.

Also i'm selling a guildwars 2 acc, I bought it 4 months ago but I didn't like it much cuz 3d games are not my computers thing so if anyone wants to try GW2 you can purchase my acc, real min. price to create a gw2 acc is $60 but I'm selling a lot cheaper. Don't ask about chars and items since I'm like lvl 7
http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?9125-Selling-League-of-legends-account-and-GW2-account
Keep your comments to your self thank you very much "Retard"

[fenol]

Ok guys calm down a bit with the insults , stay on topic , but bratti if u make new accs flood forum etc cant they Nr1 : track our ips ban our main accs? Nr2: its their game so its really their rules thats like 4000 year old saying my game my rules. Nr 3 why would u want to have a game full of botters? just less spawns for me f datt lol :P

[Spreez]

I can tell u who would complain..
Simply everyone because all spawns are taken and crowded.
On the other hand id say stop playing if u dont enjoy it like it is.

[BigBratti]

Look at it this way if every spawn was full with bots forums new topics would be "NEED MORE HUNTING GROUNDS" which in reality would force them to invest more money in mappers thus bringing us newer creatures, new spawns, more fun and alot more then seasonal updating all in all it would make tibia that much more enjoyable.

As if there isn't already complaints about the spawns being crowded by (non-botting) players if everyone had a bot who in gods name would complain honestly i'm now botting yala cults and 2 people who are botting are here u think i'm complaining? or are they cause i honestly could care less that i just took a 60k an hr hit to my exp but i bet these two are bitching cause i simply don't give a shit and will bot this bitch all night.

If everyone botted no one would care about spawns being crowded and if you bot and your sensitive about people being in your spawn I would have to say that there is something completely wrong with you.

[Spreez]

Look at it this way if every spawn was full with bots forums new topics would be "NEED MORE HUNTING GROUNDS" which in reality would force them to invest more money in mappers thus bringing us newer creatures, new spawns, more fun and alot more then seasonal updating all in all it would make tibia that much more enjoyable.

As if there isn't already complaints about the spawns being crowded by (non-botting) players if everyone had a bot who in gods name would complain honestly i'm now botting yala cults and 2 people who are botting are here u think i'm complaining? or are they cause i honestly could care less that i just took a 60k an hr hit to my exp but i bet these two are bitching cause i simply don't give a shit and will bot this bitch all night.

If everyone botted no one would care about spawns being crowded and if you bot and your sensitive about people being in your spawn I would have to say that there is something completely wrong with you.

To be honest i dont give a fuck about ppl in my spawn if they r not trashing my monsters or shooting runes on corpses.

But dont u think that Tibia would die if there were only bots and nobody wouldnt care about anything?

[oflarhety]

Fact 4 Anyone who prefers a 2D game to a 3D game is either 1 retarded or 2 is a 13 year old with no source of income and pc cannot support anything better then tibia... -.- cause lets face it if there was no bot for tibia this game would have been dead to me when i was like what 10.

lol, that's a fact eh? That's why indie developers have been making hand over fist with complex 2D games that offer more depth than a 3D game can or could at this time, right?

Also, yeah, botting will be in every game. There is no way to prevent it. Any type of security, detection, or whathaveyou code can be hacked, circumvented, and disabled. The only thing is that it takes time to do so. The only thing game companies can do is to make it not worth the botters while, and at the same time they can't harm the real players experience. Guess how often compromises like that go over well? Not very often, because bot developers, gold sellers, etc are generally opportunists, nothing gets past them.

Again, in regards to your 'Fact 4', go play dwarf fortress and make the largest settlement possible, and play until you've capped out on the amount of dwarves you can have as citizens. It's an ascii game, but there's so much going on that it can and will eventually make most modern processors fall to their knees if you're not picky about culling creatures on your map.

EDIT: None of those ideas are copyrighted, pretty much every game borrows something from other ones. Aiming runes was annoying and only people with macros won in pvp because of it. Why? Because with no rune exhaust a mage with magic level 15 could absolutely destroy any other player with SDs. Hotkeys are an industry standard, I honestly can't imagine 'playing' the game without any form of hotkey. You liked single runes and right clicking each potion and UH? That's a lot of tedious bullshit that made the game more awful than it already is.

Another thing you have to realize, OTs are using copyrighted graphics, code, and names, and diverting profit from CIP. I'm actually surprised some of them have lasted this long, some AAA MMO private servers get shut down and their admins get jail time. Same thing for bot programmers, really. A programmer for a famous World of Warcraft bot was fined for the entire profits he made from the bot, as well as 'damages' to Blizzard's 'service'. Really, CIP 'stealing' ideas is just their way of going easy on OT admins and bot programmers.

[BigBratti]

To be honest i dont give a fuck about ppl in my spawn if they r not trashing my monsters or shooting runes on corpses.

But dont u think that Tibia would die if there were only bots and nobody wouldnt care about anything?
Further more proving my point
oflarhety
WoW community > tibia community sry
Diablo 3 community > tibia community sry (even tho it was such a disappointment
Any 3D game > 2D Sorry

dwarf fortress wiki

The game has accumulated much praise for its rich content and deep gameplay, and holds a small but devoted fanbase.

lol, that's a fact eh? That's why indie developers have been making hand over fist with complex 2D games that offer more depth than a 3D game can or could at this time, right?
lol how many of these games aren't single player? nuf said

[oflarhety]

Further more proving my point
oflarhety
WoW community > tibia community sry
Diablo 3 community > tibia community sry (even tho it was such a disappointment
Any 3D game > 2D Sorry

dwarf fortress wiki


lol how many of these games aren't single player? nuf said

Does a game need multiplayer to be good? Have you played World of Warcraft? There is no community, you can do nearly everything in the game without ever communicating with a player.

Diablo 3 was decent, about what I expected from a sequel to a game released 12 years after the previous in the series. The 'community' is pretty much 'lol mi charctur better dan urs look mi armory'.

But we weren't talking about community, were we?

Also, DF doesn't make money, it's pretty much a side project.

[BigBratti]

All in all you kids are missing the whole point to the issue. That is when people complained about the aimbot Cipsoft had zero choice but to implicate it into there stand alone client soo I mean how pissed would u be if in the next update they just seized the chance to increase their profits and threw a bot in the stand alone client.

When they added offline trainers did tibia die? no don't think so even tho for years training was the hardest part of tibia not the concept just the long periods of time doing sweet fuck nothing. I mean lets be realistic they have already added "Bot" functions to tibia if you don't know this like i've previously stated before please alt F4 Life.

[BigBratti]

Does a game need multiplayer to be good? Have you played World of Warcraft? There is no community, you can do nearly everything in the game without ever communicating with a player.

Diablo 3 was decent, about what I expected from a sequel to a game released 12 years after the previous in the series. The 'community' is pretty much 'lol mi charctur better dan urs look mi armory'.

But we weren't talking about community, were we?

Also, DF doesn't make money, it's pretty much a side project.
Obviously you've never done a raid nor used the auction house...
what exactly were we talking about? a statement that was not directed at you? get off your high horse kid. Cause last time I checked that was exactly what i was talking about... "the community of tibia"

[oflarhety]

All in all you kids are missing the whole point to the issue. That is when people complained about the aimbot Cipsoft had zero choice but to implicate it into there stand alone client soo I mean how pissed would u be if in the next update they just seized the chance to increase their profits and threw a bot in the stand alone client.

When they added offline trainers did tibia die? no don't think so even tho for years training was the hardest part of tibia not the concept just the long periods of time doing sweet fuck nothing. I mean lets be realistic they have already added "Bot" functions to tibia if you don't know this like i've previously stated before please alt F4 Life.

I think what's really the case is that you don't know how to get your point across without being needlessly sardonic and facetious. People were getting hacked from using the exp counters that were available, and it's not really a bot feature, those were available in games before Tibia. Rune targeting via redboxing and hotkeys isn't really a bot feature, again, that was in games before Tibia added it. It was a natural step to add it because it didn't make sense not to have it in the game, same with stacking of potions and runes.

If they added a bot, I don't think I would be angry. No deletions and in-house support? Sign me up.

It really just sounds like you're angry at the game for some reason, but I can't figure out why.

[oflarhety]

Obviously you've never done a raid nor used the auction house...
what exactly were we talking about? a statement that was not directed at you? get off your high horse kid. Cause last time I checked that was exactly what i was talking about... "the community of tibia"

"Looking for raid" solves any issues if you want to see content, you can find pugs a few weeks after raids release to clear all the content. And yeah, I used the auction house when I played, but I didn't need to communicate with any other players because all I did was scroll my mouse button to post 300 auctions every few hours then go throw rocks at cats and drink a beer with Stone Cold Steve Austin.

[xodetdead]

xodetdead
Your obviously new to the English language and apparently born yesterday. point of the thread was the fact that once apon a time your little hotkey function for runes and items did not exist. "HENCE" they gave the community a "Cipsoft" made aimbot. If you did not know this then i suggest you alt F4 life. With that being said the whole point to this "Discussion" is what if we got a community of people to "Complain/harass" on the boards simply stating facts.
Fact 1 bots will live forever
Fact 2 if everyone had a bot who would complain
Fact 3 not only would it relieve them of all the complaints about botting if they marketed it they'd make that much more money
Fact 4 Anyone who prefers a 2D game to a 3D game is either 1 retarded or 2 is a 13 year old with no source of income and pc cannot support anything better then tibia... -.- cause lets face it if there was no bot for tibia this game would have been dead to me when i was like what 10.

http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?9125-Selling-League-of-legends-account-and-GW2-account
Keep your comments to yourself* thank you very much Master

You're welcome.

[BigBratti]

I think what's really the case is that you don't know how to get your point across without being needlessly sardonic and facetious. People were getting hacked from using the exp counters that were available, and it's not really a bot feature, those were available in games before Tibia. Rune targeting via redboxing and hotkeys isn't really a bot feature, again, that was in games before Tibia added it. It was a natural step to add it because it didn't make sense not to have it in the game, same with stacking of potions and runes.

Ok let me explain something to you Yes i'm alittle angry with the way this game has turned out for more then enuf reason however Targeting via redboxing ruint the pvp aspect to tibia cause lets be real with each other I was a lvl 170+ mage before the skull system and was one of the high lvl pvpers. It was one of the main reasons I fell inlove with this game cause it took timing and skill to play it now they make it user friendly so even the most dumb witted people can play. It was all a marketing skeem cause people complained about the aimbot. Lets look at it like this. If tibia bots didn't produce an aimbot system that alot of the community complained about do you think they would have scrapped their original pvp system? don't think so. I've been playing tibia for 13 years... I seen it change for good and for worse but fact of the matter is things are done based on the communities response.

If you think I made this thread cause i was deleted your saddly mistaken it was just a thought based on tibia's history.

xodetdead lol you would be that much of a queer. itz @wes0me 7hat u d1d n0t s@y sh17 @fter u w3r3 m@d3 0ut 2 l00k l1k3 @ "RETARD"

[BigBratti]

Just alittle info i think everyone should know... PVP ENFORCED used to be the only server u could play there was no limit on the people you could kill. the reason for this is because before the aimbot it was 100% harder to pvp. The reason they put the skull system into effect was because of 3 close friends of mine who exploited the aimbot... Proxy, Zuu, Night Fang the 3 spent 48 hours killing everything and everyone with ue combos and sd combo they kept the entire antica server in pz they were later deleted for destructive behavior.

[oflarhety]

Ok let me explain something to you Yes i'm alittle angry with the way this game has turned out for more then enuf reason however Targeting via redboxing ruint the pvp aspect to tibia cause lets be real with each other I was a lvl 170+ mage before the skull system and was one of the high lvl pvpers. It was one of the main reasons I fell inlove with this game cause it took timing and skill to play it now they make it user friendly so even the most dumb witted people can play. It was all a marketing skeem cause people complained about the aimbot. Lets look at it like this. If tibia bots didn't produce an aimbot system that alot of the community complained about do you think they would have scrapped their original pvp system? don't think so. I've been playing tibia for 13 years... I seen it change for good and for worse but fact of the matter is things are done based on the communities response.

If you think I made this thread cause i was deleted your saddly mistaken it was just a thought based on tibia's history.

xodetdead lol you would be that much of a queer. itz @wes0me 7hat u d1d n0t s@y sh17 @fter u w3r3 m@d3 0ut 2 l00k l1k3 @ "RETARD"

Oh yeah, I understand that. The game is definitely more fun when your friends are playing and such. Thing is, a lot of that is nostalgia. I played 13 years ago too, but I don't miss it. Why? Because I was a, well, retard then. At the time Tibia used ripped off Ultima 5 sprites and your character jumped from tile to tile. But it's nothing about skill, MMORPGs are not about skill, they're about time invested. Time = levels/power/resources to piss away on griefing people. Right clicking a HMM and having to aim at a moving creature was retarded, not skill. That's why most people used bots to aim for them, because skill didn't exist, only bots/macros.

I honestly haven't played a pvp server since 2002 or so, and don't care to go back.

You're right though, the game isn't based around community as much as it used to be. I think that's partially because there were only 50-200 people online at a time, so you kind of got to know people. Now there's more stuff to do, and, well, hunting solo is usually the best way to go. It's not just Tibia, lots of games are like this. There's no use trying to chase the MMO-dragon, you can never go home.