New update mess with scripts?

[inadequate]

Was there a new update, and it fucked up every script? The only script i have been able to use properly is the rook one, and the rest all try to make me walk back in forth in town no matter what script it is

[Nakuu]

http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?15057-Update-XenoBot-v3.2.4

I tested today my scripts today and everything works fine so seems like it's badly wrote script after all.

[inadequate]

I can't use yours because I am a 35 RP, but the yalahar script for minos and elves is the one that came closest for me to working, but everytime it gets back to town all it does is walk back and forth to and from bank to shops

[Nakuu]

Did it work before the update ? It seems like you just don't have enough cap to buy supplies or enough gold in bank.

[inadequate]

I have plently of gold, and I just started using xenobot today. cap you might be right

[inadequate]

It doesn't really seem badly written, it just gets confused and goes back to step one after buying supplies and i have plenty of money and cap left

[XtrmJosh]

Can you guys stop being idiots and focus on the question in hand: Rydan Nakuu.

The OP states that the script is walking back and forth. If the scripts were badly written, based on the information DarkstaR provided us with in the update thread, the only thing that will be different is that the walker may wait for longer than is necessary, or just not restart after a label. It would not lead to this kind of issue. So, stop throwing insults at people, and start doing something productive. From where I'm standing, all I can see is people sucking up to DarkstaR and trying to insult other people, not knowing who they are in fact insulting.

inadequate - Are you able to post the lua file somewhere? Or is it a paid for script? If it's paid for, contact the vendor, otherwise, post the Lua file and I will take a look and see if I can spot the error. It would also be handy if you could post it on www.pastebin.com, that way I can view it from my tablet and respond on the bus tomorrow.

[inadequate]

---------------------------------
-----Yalahar Minos or Elves------
----By Xiaospike & Joshwa534-----
------------Enjoy!!!-------------
---------------------------------

--------- BP SETUP ----------
-- [BP 1] - Main + Rares
-- [BP 2] - Products
-- [BP 3] - Gold

--------- DP SETUP ----------
-- [DP 1] - Rares
-- [DP 2] - Products

------ REFILL SETTINGS ------
local MinMana = 1 --- How many mana potions until you leave the hunt.
local MaxMana = 50 --- How many mana potions you begin the hunt with.

local MinHealth = 1 --- How many health potions until you leave the hunt.
local MaxHealth = 25 --- How many health potions you begin the hunt with.

local GoldBP = 8860 --- Item ID of your gold backpack.
local MinCap = 5 --- Leaves spawn when character reaches this cap.
local HideEquipment = true --- Do you want to minimize your equipment?
local LogoutStamina = true --- Do you want to logout at 16 hours? (Inside the depot)

local MaxAmmo = 15 --- How many spears you begin the hunt with.
local MinAmmo = 1 --- How many spears left when you leave the hunt.

----- LOCATION SETTINGS -----
local Elves = false --- Do you want to hunt the Elves?

--------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------- DO NOT TOUCH THIS CODE ------------------------
---------------------- IF YOU DO NOT KNOW --------------------------
---------------------- WHAT YOU ARE DOING --------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------

registerEventListener(WALKER_SELECTLABEL, "onWalkerSelectLabel")

print([[
Yalahar Minotaurs or Elves by Xiaospike & Joshwa534]])
wait(5000)

function onWalkerSelectLabel(labelName)
if (labelName == "checker1") then
Walker.ConditionalGoto((Self.ItemCount(268) <= MinMana) or (Self.Cap() < MinCap) or (Self.ItemCount(266) <= MinHealth) or (Self.ItemCount(7378) <= MinAmmo) or ((LogoutStamina) and (Self.Stamina() < 840)), "leave1", "keepHunting1")

elseif (labelName == "checker2") then
Walker.ConditionalGoto((Self.ItemCount(268) <= MinMana) or (Self.Cap() < MinCap) or (Self.ItemCount(266) <= MinHealth) or (Self.ItemCount(7378) <= MinAmmo) or ((LogoutStamina) and (Self.Stamina() < 840)), "leave2", "keepHunting2")

elseif (labelName == "checkHuntSpot") then
Walker.ConditionalGoto((Elves), "toElves", "toMinos")

elseif (labelName == "GotoTown") then
Walker.Goto("toTown")

elseif (labelName == "checkstuff") then
local ESTMana = (MaxMana-20)
Walker.ConditionalGoto((Self.ItemCount(268) < ESTMana) or (Self.ItemCount(266) < MaxHealth) or (Self.ItemCount(7378) < MaxAmmo), "resupply", "tohunt")

elseif (labelName == "bank") then
local withdrawManas = math.max(MaxMana - Self.ItemCount(268), 0)*50
local withdrawHealths = math.max(MaxHealth - Self.ItemCount(266), 0)*45
local withdrawAmmo = math.max(MaxAmmo - Self.ItemCount(7378), 0)*15
local totalmoneyneeded = (withdrawManas + withdrawHealths + withdrawAmmo)
local MATHCEIL = (math.ceil((totalmoneyneeded/1000)))*1000
Walker.Stop()
Self.SayToNpc({"hi", "deposit all", "yes"}, 65)
if (totalmoneyneeded > 0) then
Self.SayToNpc({"withdraw " .. MATHCEIL, "yes"}, 65)
end
wait(2000)
Walker.Start()

elseif (labelName == "deposit") then
Walker.Stop()
Self.ReachDepot()
Self.DepositItems({7438, 0}, {3073, 0}, {3037, 0}, {7401, 0}, {7425, 0}, {3082, 0})
Self.DepositItems({5922, 1},{5921, 1},{11473, 1},{11465, 1}, {3061, 1}, {237, 1}, {5878, 1}, {11472, 1}, {11464, 1}, {11482, 1}, {9635, 1}, {11451, 1}, {11483, 1})
if (LogoutStamina) and (Self.Stamina() < 960) then
Walker.Stop()
else
Walker.Start()
end

elseif (labelName == "potions") then
Walker.Stop()
if (Self.ItemCount(268) < MaxMana) or (Self.ItemCount(266) < MaxHealth) then
Self.SayToNpc({"hi", "flasks", "yes", "yes", "yes", "yes", "yes", "yes", "trade"}, 65)
wait(2000)
if (Self.ItemCount(268) < MaxMana) then
BuyItems(268, MaxMana)
wait(500)
end
if (Self.ItemCount(266) < MaxHealth) then
BuyItems(266, MaxHealth)
wait(500)
end
wait(200, 500)
end
Walker.Start()

elseif (labelName == "buyammo") then
Walker.Stop()
Self.SayToNpc({"hi", "trade"}, 65)
wait(1000)
if (Self.ItemCount(7378) < (MaxAmmo)) then
BuyItems(7378, MaxAmmo)
wait(500)
end
Walker.Start()

elseif (labelName == "resetbp") then
Walker.Stop()
Container.Close(GoldBP)
wait(1000)
Container.GetFirst():OpenChildren(GoldBP)
wait(1000)
Container.GetByName(GoldBP):Minimize()
if (HideEquipment) then
Client.HideEquipment()
wait(1000)
end
Walker.Start()
end
end

----------------------- Functions ----------------------
function SellItems(item) -- item = item ID
wait(300, 1700)
Self.ShopSellItem(item, Self.ShopGetItemSaleCount(item))
wait(900, 1200)
end

function BuyItems(item, count) -- item = item id, count = how many you want to buy up to
wait(900, 1200)
if (Self.ItemCount(item) < count) then
Self.ShopBuyItem(item, (count-Self.ItemCount(item)))
wait(200, 500)
end
end
Self.ReachDepot = function (tries)
local tries = tries or 3
Walker.Stop()
local DepotIDs = {3497, 3498, 3499, 3500}
local DepotPos = {}
for i = 1, #DepotIDs do
local dps = Map.GetUseItems(DepotIDs[i])
for j = 1, #dps do
table.insert(DepotPos, dps[j])
end
end
local function gotoDepot()
local pos = Self.Position()
print("Depots found: " .. tostring(#DepotPos))
for i = 1, #DepotPos do
location = DepotPos[i]
Self.UseItemFromGround(location.x, location.y, location.z)
wait(1000, 2000)
if Self.DistanceFromPosition(pos.x, pos.y, pos.z) >= 1 then
wait(5000, 6000)
if Self.DistanceFromPosition(location.x, location.y, location.z) == 1 then
Walker.Start()
return true
end
else
print("Something is blocking the path. Trying next depot.")
end
end
return false
end

repeat
reachedDP = gotoDepot()
if reachedDP then
return true
end
tries = tries - 1
sleep(100)
print("Attempt to reach depot was unsuccessfull. " .. tries .. " tries left.")
until tries <= 0

return false
end

Map.GetUseItems = function (id)
if type(id) == "string" then
id = Item.GetID(id)
end
local pos = Self.Position()
local store = {}
for x = -7, 7 do
for y = -5, 5 do
if Map.GetTopUseItem(pos.x + x, pos.y + y, pos.z).id == id then
itemPos = {x = pos.x + x, y = pos.y + y, z = pos.z}
table.insert(store, itemPos)
end
end
end
return store
end

[XtrmJosh]

---------------------------------
-----Yalahar Minos or Elves------
----By Xiaospike & Joshwa534-----
------------Enjoy!!!-------------
---------------------------------

--------- BP SETUP ----------
-- [BP 1] - Main + Rares
-- [BP 2] - Products
-- [BP 3] - Gold

--------- DP SETUP ----------
-- [DP 1] - Rares
-- [DP 2] - Products

------ REFILL SETTINGS ------
local MinMana = 1 --- How many mana potions until you leave the hunt.
local MaxMana = 50 --- How many mana potions you begin the hunt with.

local MinHealth = 1 --- How many health potions until you leave the hunt.
local MaxHealth = 25 --- How many health potions you begin the hunt with.

local GoldBP = 8860 --- Item ID of your gold backpack.
local MinCap = 5 --- Leaves spawn when character reaches this cap.
local HideEquipment = true --- Do you want to minimize your equipment?
local LogoutStamina = true --- Do you want to logout at 16 hours? (Inside the depot)

local MaxAmmo = 15 --- How many spears you begin the hunt with.
local MinAmmo = 1 --- How many spears left when you leave the hunt.

----- LOCATION SETTINGS -----
local Elves = false --- Do you want to hunt the Elves?

--------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------- DO NOT TOUCH THIS CODE ------------------------
---------------------- IF YOU DO NOT KNOW --------------------------
---------------------- WHAT YOU ARE DOING --------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------

registerEventListener(WALKER_SELECTLABEL, "onWalkerSelectLabel")

print([[
Yalahar Minotaurs or Elves by Xiaospike & Joshwa534]])
wait(5000)

function onWalkerSelectLabel(labelName)
if (labelName == "checker1") then
Walker.ConditionalGoto((Self.ItemCount(268) <= MinMana) or (Self.Cap() < MinCap) or (Self.ItemCount(266) <= MinHealth) or (Self.ItemCount(7378) <= MinAmmo) or ((LogoutStamina) and (Self.Stamina() < 840)), "leave1", "keepHunting1")

elseif (labelName == "checker2") then
Walker.ConditionalGoto((Self.ItemCount(268) <= MinMana) or (Self.Cap() < MinCap) or (Self.ItemCount(266) <= MinHealth) or (Self.ItemCount(7378) <= MinAmmo) or ((LogoutStamina) and (Self.Stamina() < 840)), "leave2", "keepHunting2")

elseif (labelName == "checkHuntSpot") then
Walker.ConditionalGoto((Elves), "toElves", "toMinos")

elseif (labelName == "GotoTown") then
Walker.Goto("toTown")

elseif (labelName == "checkstuff") then
local ESTMana = (MaxMana-20)
Walker.ConditionalGoto((Self.ItemCount(268) < ESTMana) or (Self.ItemCount(266) < MaxHealth) or (Self.ItemCount(7378) < MaxAmmo), "resupply", "tohunt")

elseif (labelName == "bank") then
local withdrawManas = math.max(MaxMana - Self.ItemCount(268), 0)*50
local withdrawHealths = math.max(MaxHealth - Self.ItemCount(266), 0)*45
local withdrawAmmo = math.max(MaxAmmo - Self.ItemCount(7378), 0)*15
local totalmoneyneeded = (withdrawManas + withdrawHealths + withdrawAmmo)
local MATHCEIL = (math.ceil((totalmoneyneeded/1000)))*1000
Walker.Stop()
Self.SayToNpc({"hi", "deposit all", "yes"}, 65)
if (totalmoneyneeded > 0) then
Self.SayToNpc({"withdraw " .. MATHCEIL, "yes"}, 65)
end
wait(2000)
Walker.Start()

elseif (labelName == "deposit") then
Walker.Stop()
Self.ReachDepot()
Self.DepositItems({7438, 0}, {3073, 0}, {3037, 0}, {7401, 0}, {7425, 0}, {3082, 0})
Self.DepositItems({5922, 1},{5921, 1},{11473, 1},{11465, 1}, {3061, 1}, {237, 1}, {5878, 1}, {11472, 1}, {11464, 1}, {11482, 1}, {9635, 1}, {11451, 1}, {11483, 1})
if (LogoutStamina) and (Self.Stamina() < 960) then
Walker.Stop()
else
Walker.Start()
end

elseif (labelName == "potions") then
Walker.Stop()
if (Self.ItemCount(268) < MaxMana) or (Self.ItemCount(266) < MaxHealth) then
Self.SayToNpc({"hi", "flasks", "yes", "yes", "yes", "yes", "yes", "yes", "trade"}, 65)
wait(2000)
if (Self.ItemCount(268) < MaxMana) then
BuyItems(268, MaxMana)
wait(500)
end
if (Self.ItemCount(266) < MaxHealth) then
BuyItems(266, MaxHealth)
wait(500)
end
wait(200, 500)
end
Walker.Start()

elseif (labelName == "buyammo") then
Walker.Stop()
Self.SayToNpc({"hi", "trade"}, 65)
wait(1000)
if (Self.ItemCount(7378) < (MaxAmmo)) then
BuyItems(7378, MaxAmmo)
wait(500)
end
Walker.Start()

elseif (labelName == "resetbp") then
Walker.Stop()
Container.Close(GoldBP)
wait(1000)
Container.GetFirst():OpenChildren(GoldBP)
wait(1000)
Container.GetByName(GoldBP):Minimize()
if (HideEquipment) then
Client.HideEquipment()
wait(1000)
end
Walker.Start()
end
end

----------------------- Functions ----------------------
function SellItems(item) -- item = item ID
wait(300, 1700)
Self.ShopSellItem(item, Self.ShopGetItemSaleCount(item))
wait(900, 1200)
end

function BuyItems(item, count) -- item = item id, count = how many you want to buy up to
wait(900, 1200)
if (Self.ItemCount(item) < count) then
Self.ShopBuyItem(item, (count-Self.ItemCount(item)))
wait(200, 500)
end
end
Self.ReachDepot = function (tries)
local tries = tries or 3
Walker.Stop()
local DepotIDs = {3497, 3498, 3499, 3500}
local DepotPos = {}
for i = 1, #DepotIDs do
local dps = Map.GetUseItems(DepotIDs[i])
for j = 1, #dps do
table.insert(DepotPos, dps[j])
end
end
local function gotoDepot()
local pos = Self.Position()
print("Depots found: " .. tostring(#DepotPos))
for i = 1, #DepotPos do
location = DepotPos[i]
Self.UseItemFromGround(location.x, location.y, location.z)
wait(1000, 2000)
if Self.DistanceFromPosition(pos.x, pos.y, pos.z) >= 1 then
wait(5000, 6000)
if Self.DistanceFromPosition(location.x, location.y, location.z) == 1 then
Walker.Start()
return true
end
else
print("Something is blocking the path. Trying next depot.")
end
end
return false
end

repeat
reachedDP = gotoDepot()
if reachedDP then
return true
end
tries = tries - 1
sleep(100)
print("Attempt to reach depot was unsuccessfull. " .. tries .. " tries left.")
until tries <= 0

return false
end

Map.GetUseItems = function (id)
if type(id) == "string" then
id = Item.GetID(id)
end
local pos = Self.Position()
local store = {}
for x = -7, 7 do
for y = -5, 5 do
if Map.GetTopUseItem(pos.x + x, pos.y + y, pos.z).id == id then
itemPos = {x = pos.x + x, y = pos.y + y, z = pos.z}
table.insert(store, itemPos)
end
end
end
return store
end

Cheers, will take a look any minute... Can you explain roughly where it repeats? Between withdrawing cash and buying manas? Which 2 "spots" does it walk between?

[inadequate]

After buying everything, it comes out, closes the equipment part, and then jumps all the way back up to step one

[XtrmJosh]

xiaospike Joshwa534

As I continue to encounter your incredibly shit scripts, I've decided I'll take the opportunity to point out the flaws of this particular script. They are listed below. If you care to do something about them, that's your decision, but for the love of god stop distributing this shit.


print([[
Yalahar Minotaurs or Elves by Xiaospike & Joshwa534]])
wait(5000)

Why do you insert a 5 second wait after starting the script? This raises a couple of issues, not least being that if in your first couple of waypoints you happen to have a label, it will be ignored. This poses a potential risk to the end user, and is a complete waste of a thread.


local ESTMana = (MaxMana-20)
Walker.ConditionalGoto((Self.ItemCount(268) < ESTMana) or (Self.ItemCount(266) < MaxHealth) or (Self.ItemCount(7378) < MaxAmmo), "resupply", "tohunt")

Here's an interesting one... Why are you wasting time declaring a variable? Why not just do Walker.ConditionalGoto(Self.ItemCount(268) < MaxMana - 20~~~~~. If you really wanted to use a variable in this instance it would be far more convenient to use a variable to store the variability of the function (the number 20), that way you could allow the end user to set it to a value, so that if they will only use 2 or 3 manas at most on refilling (most likely) they will refill every time (even if they only deposited because of capacity...)


local withdrawManas = math.max(MaxMana - Self.ItemCount(268), 0)*50
local withdrawHealths = math.max(MaxHealth - Self.ItemCount(266), 0)*45
local withdrawAmmo = math.max(MaxAmmo - Self.ItemCount(7378), 0)*15
local totalmoneyneeded = (withdrawManas + withdrawHealths + withdrawAmmo)
local MATHCEIL = (math.ceil((totalmoneyneeded/1000)))*1000

OK, so this is a large chunk to comment on. Firstly, it's ugly as hell. A much more organised way to do this would be to make a function and name it CalculateItemCost, pass in a variable for amount to buy, item ID, and cost per item, then perform these calculations and return the value. It looks shit, and is difficult to debug as a result. Secondly, why would you attempt to truncate a number in such a way? As you are simply rounding, you could use the function math.round. Sure, math.ceil will do the same job, but it once again makes code unreadable and difficult to debug. Last comment about this point, how many people wrote this code? I've noticed elsewhere as well, that your naming convention is to name it whatever the hell you want (e.g totalmoneyneeded all lower case, MATHCEIL very non-descriptive and all upper case, then the camel convention for withdrawHealths etc...) This is incredibly bad practise and anyone in the programming or scripting industry would mock you for it. It is laughable that you have actually managed to use 3 different conventions in 3 consecutive lines. Oh, I almost forgot, why exactly did you put so many brackets on the math.ceil line? Or wait, are you trying to make your code impossible to read? That does seem like the sole intention of this particular script.


wait(2000)

Why bother? I mean, seriously, what is the point? If you really wanted to make something here which would ensure the money was withdrawn, just add a balance check at the end of the withdrawing lines. The bot does not take 2 seconds to do what it is supposed to be doing here. Never has done, never will do. Exactly 2 seconds, as well? Hmmmm...


if (LogoutStamina) and (Self.Stamina() < 960) then

It seems very unintuitive to assume that an end user wants to log out with 2 hours remaining. A round of most hunts for me is much less than an hour, another thing which would be beneficial to have as a variable. On top of that, here's your fourth naming convention. Well done. Include a fifth next time for a free gift voucher!


Self.SayToNpc({"hi", "flasks", "yes", "yes", "yes", "yes", "yes", "yes", "trade"}, 65)

What the shit? So someone's just started up your script... It goes to the bank, withdraws 0 money, then goes to a mana shop... I know what it should do next! It should spam the word yes in an attempt to sell flasks which it doesn't have any of! Yes! Perfect way to get banned, fucking marvellous! You know what's even better than that? Every time I go to that shop, why not make it do the same thing? Ohh, you already did. On top of that, why not make a script which is obviously targeting players < level 50 try to sell 600 potion flasks! Great! Good job, well done. Learn to use a while true statement, and you can simple say yes until you have no flasks left. If you really want to be random about it, use some randomisation (say yes once for each stack of flasks, plus zero, one, two, or three times depending on the state of a randomly generated number). Don't do this shit, you're just making it fucking obvious who is botting.


wait(2000)
if (Self.ItemCount(268) < MaxMana) then
BuyItems(268, MaxMana)
wait(500)
end
if (Self.ItemCount(266) < MaxHealth) then
BuyItems(266, MaxHealth)
wait(500)
end
wait(200, 500)

Again with these fucking waits? Seriously, why?! I know... Let's walk up to an NPC, and wait exactly 2 seconds. Next, we'll buy some mana potions and wait exactly half a second. Then, we'll buy some health potions and I tell you what, why not wait exactly another half a second. After that, maybe we can wait another 200-500 milliseconds, cause that will totally be amazingly fun! What the fuck?


elseif (labelName == "buyammo") then
Walker.Stop()
Self.SayToNpc({"hi", "trade"}, 65)
wait(1000)
if (Self.ItemCount(7378) < (MaxAmmo)) then
BuyItems(7378, MaxAmmo)
wait(500)
end
Walker.Start()

Ok, so we're now saying trade to NPCs before trading? It's not "bad", as I guess that the function (not made by yourselves, of course, because it actually works as it should) to buy items will check that the trade window is open, but this is a waste of calculations. I see you had another great idea here, to say trade, wait exactly a second, then buy some potions, then wait exactly half a second and walk off. Inconspicuous.


elseif (labelName == "resetbp") then
Walker.Stop()
Container.Close(GoldBP)
wait(1000)
Container.GetFirst():OpenChildren(GoldBP)
wait(1000)
Container.GetByName(GoldBP):Minimize()
if (HideEquipment) then
Client.HideEquipment()
wait(1000)
end
Walker.Start()
end

Should I even bitch about the sleeps here? Do I need to? What this is going to do:
Close the gold BP.
Wait exactly 1 second.
Open the gold BP.
Wait exactly 1 second.
Minimise the gold BP.
Hide the equipment.
Wait exactly 1 second.
Walk off.

You don't think this is becoming a pattern?

Ok, so let's move on to the functions you use:


function SellItems(item) -- item = item ID
wait(300, 1700)
Self.ShopSellItem(item, Self.ShopGetItemSaleCount(item))
wait(900, 1200)
end

Wait, buy, wait? Why not use a convention? Why waste time waiting before and (sometimes) after every function, when you could just be waiting before every function? I think I know the answer you're going to give (if any), and I suspect you will say something like "we did that incase someone else tries to copy this code, so they won't risk getting banned by doing shit too quickly", but then again there is a large part of me that suspects that you didn't even write this code, so meh.


function BuyItems(item, count) -- item = item id, count = how many you want to buy up to
wait(900, 1200)
if (Self.ItemCount(item) < count) then
Self.ShopBuyItem(item, (count-Self.ItemCount(item)))
wait(200, 500)
end
end

This one is quite strange... Why would your first wait be outside of the if statement, and your second inside? It makes no sense. Then again, based on the code I've reviewed so far, it seems that your primary "company principle" is something like "If there is nothing else to do, wait." Good one. After reviewing this post, it's also just come to my attention that in fact you are waiting a bit, then this function is called, then it's waiting some more, then it's doing something, then waiting some more, then waiting some more again, then it's gonna do something else. Yeah, it's semi-random (primarily because this piece of code is not designed to have wait calls before and after it), but fuck me it's wasteful.

I won't comment on the rest of the functions, as I do not believe you wrote them. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I doubt you have the capacity to write anything capable of doing anything productive.

inadequate - For the reasons listed above, I won't debug this code for you. If you want it fixed, I'm sure JXScripts will happily do so. Personally, I don't have the time to even begin repairing this shoddy work. Sorry.

[XtrmJosh]

inadequate - This line is most likely your problem:



elseif (labelName == "checkstuff") then
local ESTMana = (MaxMana-20)
Walker.ConditionalGoto((Self.ItemCount(268) < ESTMana) or (Self.ItemCount(266) < MaxHealth) or (Self.ItemCount(7378) < MaxAmmo), "resupply", "tohunt")

Best way to debug it? Select that code, and paste this over it:


elseif (labelName == "checkstuff") then
local ESTMana = (MaxMana-20)
if (Self.ItemCount(268) < ESTMana) then
print("Refilling because of manas")
elseif (Self.ItemCount(266) < MaxHealth) then
print(Refilling because of healths)
elseif (Self.ItemCount(7378) < MaxAmmo) then
print("Refilling because of ammunition")

Walker.ConditionalGoto((Self.ItemCount(268) < ESTMana) or (Self.ItemCount(266) < MaxHealth) or (Self.ItemCount(7378) < MaxAmmo), "resupply", "tohunt")

When this line is processed, you will see a message in Tibia saying why it is refilling. After that you can see if one of the variables is configured incorrectly (most likely situation). If you're still stuck, post the result and I will see what I can do. As I said though, I'm not gonna be willing to look in any more depth through this code, it's not readable, user friendly, nor anything that I would personally trust to use on one of my accounts.

[inadequate]

All fixed, Joshwa534 helped me out with it, thank you for your time anyway guys

[kopper]

xiaospike Joshwa534

As I continue to encounter your incredibly shit scripts, I've decided I'll take the opportunity to point out the flaws of this particular script. They are listed below. If you care to do something about them, that's your decision, but for the love of god stop distributing this shit.


print([[
Yalahar Minotaurs or Elves by Xiaospike & Joshwa534]])
wait(5000)

Why do you insert a 5 second wait after starting the script? This raises a couple of issues, not least being that if in your first couple of waypoints you happen to have a label, it will be ignored. This poses a potential risk to the end user, and is a complete waste of a thread.


local ESTMana = (MaxMana-20)
Walker.ConditionalGoto((Self.ItemCount(268) < ESTMana) or (Self.ItemCount(266) < MaxHealth) or (Self.ItemCount(7378) < MaxAmmo), "resupply", "tohunt")

Here's an interesting one... Why are you wasting time declaring a variable? Why not just do Walker.ConditionalGoto(Self.ItemCount(268) < MaxMana - 20~~~~~. If you really wanted to use a variable in this instance it would be far more convenient to use a variable to store the variability of the function (the number 20), that way you could allow the end user to set it to a value, so that if they will only use 2 or 3 manas at most on refilling (most likely) they will refill every time (even if they only deposited because of capacity...)


local withdrawManas = math.max(MaxMana - Self.ItemCount(268), 0)*50
local withdrawHealths = math.max(MaxHealth - Self.ItemCount(266), 0)*45
local withdrawAmmo = math.max(MaxAmmo - Self.ItemCount(7378), 0)*15
local totalmoneyneeded = (withdrawManas + withdrawHealths + withdrawAmmo)
local MATHCEIL = (math.ceil((totalmoneyneeded/1000)))*1000

OK, so this is a large chunk to comment on. Firstly, it's ugly as hell. A much more organised way to do this would be to make a function and name it CalculateItemCost, pass in a variable for amount to buy, item ID, and cost per item, then perform these calculations and return the value. It looks shit, and is difficult to debug as a result. Secondly, why would you attempt to truncate a number in such a way? As you are simply rounding, you could use the function math.round. Sure, math.ceil will do the same job, but it once again makes code unreadable and difficult to debug. Last comment about this point, how many people wrote this code? I've noticed elsewhere as well, that your naming convention is to name it whatever the hell you want (e.g totalmoneyneeded all lower case, MATHCEIL very non-descriptive and all upper case, then the camel convention for withdrawHealths etc...) This is incredibly bad practise and anyone in the programming or scripting industry would mock you for it. It is laughable that you have actually managed to use 3 different conventions in 3 consecutive lines. Oh, I almost forgot, why exactly did you put so many brackets on the math.ceil line? Or wait, are you trying to make your code impossible to read? That does seem like the sole intention of this particular script.


wait(2000)

Why bother? I mean, seriously, what is the point? If you really wanted to make something here which would ensure the money was withdrawn, just add a balance check at the end of the withdrawing lines. The bot does not take 2 seconds to do what it is supposed to be doing here. Never has done, never will do. Exactly 2 seconds, as well? Hmmmm...


if (LogoutStamina) and (Self.Stamina() < 960) then

It seems very unintuitive to assume that an end user wants to log out with 2 hours remaining. A round of most hunts for me is much less than an hour, another thing which would be beneficial to have as a variable. On top of that, here's your fourth naming convention. Well done. Include a fifth next time for a free gift voucher!


Self.SayToNpc({"hi", "flasks", "yes", "yes", "yes", "yes", "yes", "yes", "trade"}, 65)

What the shit? So someone's just started up your script... It goes to the bank, withdraws 0 money, then goes to a mana shop... I know what it should do next! It should spam the word yes in an attempt to sell flasks which it doesn't have any of! Yes! Perfect way to get banned, fucking marvellous! You know what's even better than that? Every time I go to that shop, why not make it do the same thing? Ohh, you already did. On top of that, why not make a script which is obviously targeting players < level 50 try to sell 600 potion flasks! Great! Good job, well done. Learn to use a while true statement, and you can simple say yes until you have no flasks left. If you really want to be random about it, use some randomisation (say yes once for each stack of flasks, plus zero, one, two, or three times depending on the state of a randomly generated number). Don't do this shit, you're just making it fucking obvious who is botting.


wait(2000)
if (Self.ItemCount(268) < MaxMana) then
BuyItems(268, MaxMana)
wait(500)
end
if (Self.ItemCount(266) < MaxHealth) then
BuyItems(266, MaxHealth)
wait(500)
end
wait(200, 500)

Again with these fucking waits? Seriously, why?! I know... Let's walk up to an NPC, and wait exactly 2 seconds. Next, we'll buy some mana potions and wait exactly half a second. Then, we'll buy some health potions and I tell you what, why not wait exactly another half a second. After that, maybe we can wait another 200-500 milliseconds, cause that will totally be amazingly fun! What the fuck?


elseif (labelName == "buyammo") then
Walker.Stop()
Self.SayToNpc({"hi", "trade"}, 65)
wait(1000)
if (Self.ItemCount(7378) < (MaxAmmo)) then
BuyItems(7378, MaxAmmo)
wait(500)
end
Walker.Start()

Ok, so we're now saying trade to NPCs before trading? It's not "bad", as I guess that the function (not made by yourselves, of course, because it actually works as it should) to buy items will check that the trade window is open, but this is a waste of calculations. I see you had another great idea here, to say trade, wait exactly a second, then buy some potions, then wait exactly half a second and walk off. Inconspicuous.


elseif (labelName == "resetbp") then
Walker.Stop()
Container.Close(GoldBP)
wait(1000)
Container.GetFirst():OpenChildren(GoldBP)
wait(1000)
Container.GetByName(GoldBP):Minimize()
if (HideEquipment) then
Client.HideEquipment()
wait(1000)
end
Walker.Start()
end

Should I even bitch about the sleeps here? Do I need to? What this is going to do:
Close the gold BP.
Wait exactly 1 second.
Open the gold BP.
Wait exactly 1 second.
Minimise the gold BP.
Hide the equipment.
Wait exactly 1 second.
Walk off.

You don't think this is becoming a pattern?

Ok, so let's move on to the functions you use:


function SellItems(item) -- item = item ID
wait(300, 1700)
Self.ShopSellItem(item, Self.ShopGetItemSaleCount(item))
wait(900, 1200)
end

Wait, buy, wait? Why not use a convention? Why waste time waiting before and (sometimes) after every function, when you could just be waiting before every function? I think I know the answer you're going to give (if any), and I suspect you will say something like "we did that incase someone else tries to copy this code, so they won't risk getting banned by doing shit too quickly", but then again there is a large part of me that suspects that you didn't even write this code, so meh.


function BuyItems(item, count) -- item = item id, count = how many you want to buy up to
wait(900, 1200)
if (Self.ItemCount(item) < count) then
Self.ShopBuyItem(item, (count-Self.ItemCount(item)))
wait(200, 500)
end
end

This one is quite strange... Why would your first wait be outside of the if statement, and your second inside? It makes no sense. Then again, based on the code I've reviewed so far, it seems that your primary "company principle" is something like "If there is nothing else to do, wait." Good one. After reviewing this post, it's also just come to my attention that in fact you are waiting a bit, then this function is called, then it's waiting some more, then it's doing something, then waiting some more, then waiting some more again, then it's gonna do something else. Yeah, it's semi-random (primarily because this piece of code is not designed to have wait calls before and after it), but fuck me it's wasteful.

I won't comment on the rest of the functions, as I do not believe you wrote them. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I doubt you have the capacity to write anything capable of doing anything productive.

inadequate - For the reasons listed above, I won't debug this code for you. If you want it fixed, I'm sure JXScripts will happily do so. Personally, I don't have the time to even begin repairing this shoddy work. Sorry.

Just got one thing to say to you. Grow up, get out of the house every once in a while. You "don't have the time to "debug" our scripts which work perfectly fine yet you can make this giant post about it? Right.

[Joshwa534]

xiaospike Joshwa534

As I continue to encounter your incredibly shit scripts, I've decided I'll take the opportunity to point out the flaws of this particular script. They are listed below. If you care to do something about them, that's your decision, but for the love of god stop distributing this shit.


print([[
Yalahar Minotaurs or Elves by Xiaospike & Joshwa534]])
wait(5000)

Why do you insert a 5 second wait after starting the script? This raises a couple of issues, not least being that if in your first couple of waypoints you happen to have a label, it will be ignored. This poses a potential risk to the end user, and is a complete waste of a thread.


local ESTMana = (MaxMana-20)
Walker.ConditionalGoto((Self.ItemCount(268) < ESTMana) or (Self.ItemCount(266) < MaxHealth) or (Self.ItemCount(7378) < MaxAmmo), "resupply", "tohunt")

Here's an interesting one... Why are you wasting time declaring a variable? Why not just do Walker.ConditionalGoto(Self.ItemCount(268) < MaxMana - 20~~~~~. If you really wanted to use a variable in this instance it would be far more convenient to use a variable to store the variability of the function (the number 20), that way you could allow the end user to set it to a value, so that if they will only use 2 or 3 manas at most on refilling (most likely) they will refill every time (even if they only deposited because of capacity...)


local withdrawManas = math.max(MaxMana - Self.ItemCount(268), 0)*50
local withdrawHealths = math.max(MaxHealth - Self.ItemCount(266), 0)*45
local withdrawAmmo = math.max(MaxAmmo - Self.ItemCount(7378), 0)*15
local totalmoneyneeded = (withdrawManas + withdrawHealths + withdrawAmmo)
local MATHCEIL = (math.ceil((totalmoneyneeded/1000)))*1000

OK, so this is a large chunk to comment on. Firstly, it's ugly as hell. A much more organised way to do this would be to make a function and name it CalculateItemCost, pass in a variable for amount to buy, item ID, and cost per item, then perform these calculations and return the value. It looks shit, and is difficult to debug as a result. Secondly, why would you attempt to truncate a number in such a way? As you are simply rounding, you could use the function math.round. Sure, math.ceil will do the same job, but it once again makes code unreadable and difficult to debug. Last comment about this point, how many people wrote this code? I've noticed elsewhere as well, that your naming convention is to name it whatever the hell you want (e.g totalmoneyneeded all lower case, MATHCEIL very non-descriptive and all upper case, then the camel convention for withdrawHealths etc...) This is incredibly bad practise and anyone in the programming or scripting industry would mock you for it. It is laughable that you have actually managed to use 3 different conventions in 3 consecutive lines. Oh, I almost forgot, why exactly did you put so many brackets on the math.ceil line? Or wait, are you trying to make your code impossible to read? That does seem like the sole intention of this particular script.


wait(2000)

Why bother? I mean, seriously, what is the point? If you really wanted to make something here which would ensure the money was withdrawn, just add a balance check at the end of the withdrawing lines. The bot does not take 2 seconds to do what it is supposed to be doing here. Never has done, never will do. Exactly 2 seconds, as well? Hmmmm...


if (LogoutStamina) and (Self.Stamina() < 960) then

It seems very unintuitive to assume that an end user wants to log out with 2 hours remaining. A round of most hunts for me is much less than an hour, another thing which would be beneficial to have as a variable. On top of that, here's your fourth naming convention. Well done. Include a fifth next time for a free gift voucher!


Self.SayToNpc({"hi", "flasks", "yes", "yes", "yes", "yes", "yes", "yes", "trade"}, 65)

What the shit? So someone's just started up your script... It goes to the bank, withdraws 0 money, then goes to a mana shop... I know what it should do next! It should spam the word yes in an attempt to sell flasks which it doesn't have any of! Yes! Perfect way to get banned, fucking marvellous! You know what's even better than that? Every time I go to that shop, why not make it do the same thing? Ohh, you already did. On top of that, why not make a script which is obviously targeting players < level 50 try to sell 600 potion flasks! Great! Good job, well done. Learn to use a while true statement, and you can simple say yes until you have no flasks left. If you really want to be random about it, use some randomisation (say yes once for each stack of flasks, plus zero, one, two, or three times depending on the state of a randomly generated number). Don't do this shit, you're just making it fucking obvious who is botting.


wait(2000)
if (Self.ItemCount(268) < MaxMana) then
BuyItems(268, MaxMana)
wait(500)
end
if (Self.ItemCount(266) < MaxHealth) then
BuyItems(266, MaxHealth)
wait(500)
end
wait(200, 500)

Again with these fucking waits? Seriously, why?! I know... Let's walk up to an NPC, and wait exactly 2 seconds. Next, we'll buy some mana potions and wait exactly half a second. Then, we'll buy some health potions and I tell you what, why not wait exactly another half a second. After that, maybe we can wait another 200-500 milliseconds, cause that will totally be amazingly fun! What the fuck?


elseif (labelName == "buyammo") then
Walker.Stop()
Self.SayToNpc({"hi", "trade"}, 65)
wait(1000)
if (Self.ItemCount(7378) < (MaxAmmo)) then
BuyItems(7378, MaxAmmo)
wait(500)
end
Walker.Start()

Ok, so we're now saying trade to NPCs before trading? It's not "bad", as I guess that the function (not made by yourselves, of course, because it actually works as it should) to buy items will check that the trade window is open, but this is a waste of calculations. I see you had another great idea here, to say trade, wait exactly a second, then buy some potions, then wait exactly half a second and walk off. Inconspicuous.


elseif (labelName == "resetbp") then
Walker.Stop()
Container.Close(GoldBP)
wait(1000)
Container.GetFirst():OpenChildren(GoldBP)
wait(1000)
Container.GetByName(GoldBP):Minimize()
if (HideEquipment) then
Client.HideEquipment()
wait(1000)
end
Walker.Start()
end

Should I even bitch about the sleeps here? Do I need to? What this is going to do:
Close the gold BP.
Wait exactly 1 second.
Open the gold BP.
Wait exactly 1 second.
Minimise the gold BP.
Hide the equipment.
Wait exactly 1 second.
Walk off.

You don't think this is becoming a pattern?

Ok, so let's move on to the functions you use:


function SellItems(item) -- item = item ID
wait(300, 1700)
Self.ShopSellItem(item, Self.ShopGetItemSaleCount(item))
wait(900, 1200)
end

Wait, buy, wait? Why not use a convention? Why waste time waiting before and (sometimes) after every function, when you could just be waiting before every function? I think I know the answer you're going to give (if any), and I suspect you will say something like "we did that incase someone else tries to copy this code, so they won't risk getting banned by doing shit too quickly", but then again there is a large part of me that suspects that you didn't even write this code, so meh.


function BuyItems(item, count) -- item = item id, count = how many you want to buy up to
wait(900, 1200)
if (Self.ItemCount(item) < count) then
Self.ShopBuyItem(item, (count-Self.ItemCount(item)))
wait(200, 500)
end
end

This one is quite strange... Why would your first wait be outside of the if statement, and your second inside? It makes no sense. Then again, based on the code I've reviewed so far, it seems that your primary "company principle" is something like "If there is nothing else to do, wait." Good one. After reviewing this post, it's also just come to my attention that in fact you are waiting a bit, then this function is called, then it's waiting some more, then it's doing something, then waiting some more, then waiting some more again, then it's gonna do something else. Yeah, it's semi-random (primarily because this piece of code is not designed to have wait calls before and after it), but fuck me it's wasteful.

I won't comment on the rest of the functions, as I do not believe you wrote them. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I doubt you have the capacity to write anything capable of doing anything productive.

inadequate - For the reasons listed above, I won't debug this code for you. If you want it fixed, I'm sure JXScripts will happily do so. Personally, I don't have the time to even begin repairing this shoddy work. Sorry.


inadequate - This line is most likely your problem:



elseif (labelName == "checkstuff") then
local ESTMana = (MaxMana-20)
Walker.ConditionalGoto((Self.ItemCount(268) < ESTMana) or (Self.ItemCount(266) < MaxHealth) or (Self.ItemCount(7378) < MaxAmmo), "resupply", "tohunt")

Best way to debug it? Select that code, and paste this over it:


elseif (labelName == "checkstuff") then
local ESTMana = (MaxMana-20)
if (Self.ItemCount(268) < ESTMana) then
print("Refilling because of manas")
elseif (Self.ItemCount(266) < MaxHealth) then
print(Refilling because of healths)
elseif (Self.ItemCount(7378) < MaxAmmo) then
print("Refilling because of ammunition")

Walker.ConditionalGoto((Self.ItemCount(268) < ESTMana) or (Self.ItemCount(266) < MaxHealth) or (Self.ItemCount(7378) < MaxAmmo), "resupply", "tohunt")

When this line is processed, you will see a message in Tibia saying why it is refilling. After that you can see if one of the variables is configured incorrectly (most likely situation). If you're still stuck, post the result and I will see what I can do. As I said though, I'm not gonna be willing to look in any more depth through this code, it's not readable, user friendly, nor anything that I would personally trust to use on one of my accounts.
As to your answer to inadequate, the issue was on the user.

Whatever your wall of text said, I'm not going to bother answering most of your questions. If you wish to scrutinize old code then go ahead but I'm not going to update old code with old code when we're currently revamping everything as a whole. If you still have issues then, go ahead and bitch about it but until then stop trying to get my attention and wipe that shit off your face @Avatar.

Let me know when you start selling scripts and learn how to deal with your customers. So far I don't see you posting a single piece of code here, for anyone.

[kopper]

inadequate - This line is most likely your problem:



elseif (labelName == "checkstuff") then
local ESTMana = (MaxMana-20)
Walker.ConditionalGoto((Self.ItemCount(268) < ESTMana) or (Self.ItemCount(266) < MaxHealth) or (Self.ItemCount(7378) < MaxAmmo), "resupply", "tohunt")

Best way to debug it? Select that code, and paste this over it:


elseif (labelName == "checkstuff") then
local ESTMana = (MaxMana-20)
if (Self.ItemCount(268) < ESTMana) then
print("Refilling because of manas")
elseif (Self.ItemCount(266) < MaxHealth) then
print(Refilling because of healths)
elseif (Self.ItemCount(7378) < MaxAmmo) then
print("Refilling because of ammunition")

Walker.ConditionalGoto((Self.ItemCount(268) < ESTMana) or (Self.ItemCount(266) < MaxHealth) or (Self.ItemCount(7378) < MaxAmmo), "resupply", "tohunt")

When this line is processed, you will see a message in Tibia saying why it is refilling. After that you can see if one of the variables is configured incorrectly (most likely situation). If you're still stuck, post the result and I will see what I can do. As I said though, I'm not gonna be willing to look in any more depth through this code, it's not readable, user friendly, nor anything that I would personally trust to use on one of my accounts.

Yet you've bought two of our scripts. Well done. :)

[Joshwa534]

All fixed, Joshwa534 helped me out with it, thank you for your time anyway guys

You're welcome buddy, I won't promote XtrmJosh's lame ass tutorial but there is one or two on Youtube.

[Joshwa534]

Can you guys stop being idiots and focus on the question in hand: Rydan Nakuu.

The OP states that the script is walking back and forth. If the scripts were badly written, based on the information DarkstaR provided us with in the update thread, the only thing that will be different is that the walker may wait for longer than is necessary, or just not restart after a label. It would not lead to this kind of issue. So, stop throwing insults at people, and start doing something productive. From where I'm standing, all I can see is people sucking up to DarkstaR and trying to insult other people, not knowing who they are in fact insulting.

inadequate - Are you able to post the lua file somewhere? Or is it a paid for script? If it's paid for, contact the vendor, otherwise, post the Lua file and I will take a look and see if I can spot the error. It would also be handy if you could post it on www.pastebin.com, that way I can view it from my tablet and respond on the bus tomorrow.

You aren't sucking up to someone?


You can drop me a PM if you like and if it's something I he will approve of discussing I can get you a reply :)

I need a secretary like you, wanna come work for me?

[Adky]

print([[
Yalahar Minotaurs or Elves by Xiaospike & Joshwa534]])
wait(5000)

Why do you insert a 5 second wait after starting the script? This raises a couple of issues, not least being that if in your first couple of waypoints you happen to have a label, it will be ignored. This poses a potential risk to the end user, and is a complete waste of a thread.


It is to avoid having the first label ignored.





local withdrawManas = math.max(MaxMana - Self.ItemCount(268), 0)*50
local withdrawHealths = math.max(MaxHealth - Self.ItemCount(266), 0)*45
local withdrawAmmo = math.max(MaxAmmo - Self.ItemCount(7378), 0)*15
local totalmoneyneeded = (withdrawManas + withdrawHealths + withdrawAmmo)
local MATHCEIL = (math.ceil((totalmoneyneeded/1000)))*1000

OK, so this is a large chunk to comment on. Firstly, it's ugly as hell. A much more organised way to do this would be to make a function and name it CalculateItemCost, pass in a variable for amount to buy, item ID, and cost per item, then perform these calculations and return the value. It looks shit, and is difficult to debug as a result. Secondly, why would you attempt to truncate a number in such a way? As you are simply rounding, you could use the function math.round. Sure, math.ceil will do the same job, but it once again makes code unreadable and difficult to debug.


Afaik, there's no math.round function? You are probably thinking of math.floor, while math.floor rounds down in an old fashion, math.ceil rounds up.





if (LogoutStamina) and (Self.Stamina() < 960) then


It seems very unintuitive to assume that an end user wants to log out with 2 hours remaining. A round of most hunts for me is much less than an hour, another thing which would be beneficial to have as a variable. On top of that, here's your fourth naming convention. Well done. Include a fifth next time for a free gift voucher!



What's the problem? If you'd like to hunt for only one hour, get back to your computer and logout.




function SellItems(item) -- item = item ID
wait(300, 1700)
Self.ShopSellItem(item, Self.ShopGetItemSaleCount(item))
wait(900, 1200)
end

Wait, buy, wait? Why not use a convention? Why waste time waiting before and (sometimes) after every function, when you could just be waiting before every function? I think I know the answer you're going to give (if any), and I suspect you will say something like "we did that incase someone else tries to copy this code, so they won't risk getting banned by doing shit too quickly", but then again there is a large part of me that suspects that you didn't even write this code, so meh.


function BuyItems(item, count) -- item = item id, count = how many you want to buy up to
wait(900, 1200)
if (Self.ItemCount(item) < count) then
Self.ShopBuyItem(item, (count-Self.ItemCount(item)))
wait(200, 500)
end
end

This one is quite strange... Why would your first wait be outside of the if statement, and your second inside? It makes no sense. Then again, based on the code I've reviewed so far, it seems that your primary "company principle" is something like "If there is nothing else to do, wait." Good one. After reviewing this post, it's also just come to my attention that in fact you are waiting a bit, then this function is called, then it's waiting some more, then it's doing something, then waiting some more, then waiting some more again, then it's gonna do something else. Yeah, it's semi-random (primarily because this piece of code is not designed to have wait calls before and after it), but fuck me it's wasteful.



And here's the random waits you wanted earlier when buying potions or ammo.

[xiaospike]

http://cdn0.meme.li/instances/300x300/39215241.jpg

[inadequate]

Holy crap, this turned into a war fast haha

[XtrmJosh]

Holy crap, this turned into a war fast haha

What this turned into is some very delicately planned social engineering. See, what everyone thinks has just happened is that a scripting team has insulted fuck out of me for ripping their script apart. What's actually just happened is I've manipulated them into providing you with support. Enjoy your (now) functional script, and be careful where you get your scripts from. My post above does point out several flaws, some of which are potentially pattern generative (thus could get you banned if that is how CIPs detection system works).

Anyway, as I can't resist the opportunity to shit on and embarrass these retards, here goes:

kopper - Took me 10 minutes or so to write that post, showed you up to be little more than a bunch of idiots. As a grown up I have morals, and expectations. It just so happens that you deliver something which does not meet my expectations. They aren't particularly high, either. Tell me to grow up, get out of the house or whatever all you want, it doesn't make a blind bit of difference. The fact is I am a better scripter than your team combined. Prove me wrong... Ohhh wait, you can't. Note that by "your team", I am excluding any external help you're getting from Spectrus at the minute, as I am aware that you are so incapable that he pities you.

On top of the above, yes, I have time to make this post. The reality is that in order to debug code, you need to understand code. In order to understand code, you must analyse it in such a way that the list of flaws I pointed out are obvious, all I did was made notes on them as I went along. It only took me a couple of minutes longer than it would have to analyse the code without having listed them, and in doing so I made you guys look like the bunch of incompetent fools that you are.

Joshwa534 - I don't expect you to read my wall of text, because that's just how pathetic you are. I offer you an opportunity to learn and develop, and you take nothing more than offence from it. Admittedly, it is full of offence, but the offence is in criticism. I have not criticised without being constructive, therefore it is quite clear that I'm being more productive than at least yourself.

What the fuck are you talking about you haven't seen me post any code? I've posted probably the only useful video tutorials on the forum, with code samples, I even posted above in this thread with some code which would assist OP in debugging the script... I have posts everywhere offering to help people, you are clearly either simply trying to offend me in a very childish way, or blind to what I do.

kopper - Yes, I've bought two of your scripts. Well done. I've bought two of your scripts, and neither of them have worked out of the box. Well done. Seriously, what relevance does that have? I give everyone at least one chance, and as you can see, given both of the chances I gave you, you have done little more than prove your own incompetence. On both occasions, I might point out, I have remade the scripts from scratch. If you want I can donate them to you, so you can distribute them, at least that way the shit you're trying to palm off at the minute won't be out there any longer.

Joshwa534 - If you have a problem with my lame tutorial, make one yourself. I don't think you even know as much as I demonstrate in that video, and all that I demonstrate is how to adapt a Lua file to work for a spawn other than that for which it was made. If you'd prefer I can take it down, that way the community can't benefit from it and are forced to buy your scripts? Fancy that? Fancy being the dick who removes a perfectly valid resource from being publicly accessible?

No, I don't do sucking up. If you genuinely think I do, perhaps you should speak to those concerned. The first post quoted in reply #19 is me stating that the update would not have broken the script in this way, and that the people who responded saying that the script was shit (although they are correct, it is shit) were incorrect about the cause of this particular issue. If anything this post should demonstrate that I am unbiased, and it is actually an example of myself defending you and your ridiculous excuse for a scripting team.

You couldn't afford me.

Adky - The first label should not be ignored if there is no sleep, it makes no sense that this should be necessary. Upon googling I did find a math.round function, but it does appear to be user added. This code still could do with being more readable, and if you disagree with that at least consider the rest of the points made about that chunk of code.

The point is that there is a potential improvement which would've taken an extra second to implement, and it was not incorporated for a reason which I fail to see.

The random waits in this function are fine, but let's look again at the waits which were added earlier, why were they even added? It makes no sense for them to be there.

xiaospike - Very clever, you know how to use a meme generator, well done. Fancy trying to hold a conversation next time? Or can your simple brain not support such intellectual things?

[xiaospike]

What this turned into is some very delicately planned social engineering. See, what everyone thinks has just happened is that a scripting team has insulted fuck out of me for ripping their script apart. What's actually just happened is I've manipulated them into providing you with support. Enjoy your (now) functional script, and be careful where you get your scripts from. My post above does point out several flaws, some of which are potentially pattern generative (thus could get you banned if that is how CIPs detection system works).

Anyway, as I can't resist the opportunity to shit on and embarrass these retards, here goes:

kopper - Took me 10 minutes or so to write that post, showed you up to be little more than a bunch of idiots. As a grown up I have morals, and expectations. It just so happens that you deliver something which does not meet my expectations. They aren't particularly high, either. Tell me to grow up, get out of the house or whatever all you want, it doesn't make a blind bit of difference. The fact is I am a better scripter than your team combined. Prove me wrong... Ohhh wait, you can't. Note that by "your team", I am excluding any external help you're getting from Spectrus at the minute, as I am aware that you are so incapable that he pities you.

On top of the above, yes, I have time to make this post. The reality is that in order to debug code, you need to understand code. In order to understand code, you must analyse it in such a way that the list of flaws I pointed out are obvious, all I did was made notes on them as I went along. It only took me a couple of minutes longer than it would have to analyse the code without having listed them, and in doing so I made you guys look like the bunch of incompetent fools that you are.

Joshwa534 - I don't expect you to read my wall of text, because that's just how pathetic you are. I offer you an opportunity to learn and develop, and you take nothing more than offence from it. Admittedly, it is full of offence, but the offence is in criticism. I have not criticised without being constructive, therefore it is quite clear that I'm being more productive than at least yourself.

What the fuck are you talking about you haven't seen me post any code? I've posted probably the only useful video tutorials on the forum, with code samples, I even posted above in this thread with some code which would assist OP in debugging the script... I have posts everywhere offering to help people, you are clearly either simply trying to offend me in a very childish way, or blind to what I do.

kopper - Yes, I've bought two of your scripts. Well done. I've bought two of your scripts, and neither of them have worked out of the box. Well done. Seriously, what relevance does that have? I give everyone at least one chance, and as you can see, given both of the chances I gave you, you have done little more than prove your own incompetence. On both occasions, I might point out, I have remade the scripts from scratch. If you want I can donate them to you, so you can distribute them, at least that way the shit you're trying to palm off at the minute won't be out there any longer.

Joshwa534 - If you have a problem with my lame tutorial, make one yourself. I don't think you even know as much as I demonstrate in that video, and all that I demonstrate is how to adapt a Lua file to work for a spawn other than that for which it was made. If you'd prefer I can take it down, that way the community can't benefit from it and are forced to buy your scripts? Fancy that? Fancy being the dick who removes a perfectly valid resource from being publicly accessible?

No, I don't do sucking up. If you genuinely think I do, perhaps you should speak to those concerned. The first post quoted in reply #19 is me stating that the update would not have broken the script in this way, and that the people who responded saying that the script was shit (although they are correct, it is shit) were incorrect about the cause of this particular issue. If anything this post should demonstrate that I am unbiased, and it is actually an example of myself defending you and your ridiculous excuse for a scripting team.

You couldn't afford me.

Adky - The first label should not be ignored if there is no sleep, it makes no sense that this should be necessary. Upon googling I did find a math.round function, but it does appear to be user added. This code still could do with being more readable, and if you disagree with that at least consider the rest of the points made about that chunk of code.

The point is that there is a potential improvement which would've taken an extra second to implement, and it was not incorporated for a reason which I fail to see.

The random waits in this function are fine, but let's look again at the waits which were added earlier, why were they even added? It makes no sense for them to be there.

xiaospike - Very clever, you know how to use a meme generator, well done. Fancy trying to hold a conversation next time? Or can your simple brain not support such intellectual things?

Talk to you would be like talking to a wall.

[Swaghetti]

XtrmJosh

People probably insulted you or disliked you because of your shitty attitude towards people. I've seen it going on in several threads lately and it's dissapointing to me atleast.

Please, don't start any drama over this post, it's just critisicm. (Sorry for my spelling aswell, may be issues here and there).


Have a great day.

[Avani]

Can you guys stop being idiots and focus on the question in hand:

Yet you decide to comment on "errors" that have nothing to do with OP's problem.

[Joshwa534]

What this turned into is some very delicately planned social engineering. See, what everyone thinks has just happened is that a scripting team has insulted fuck out of me for ripping their script apart. What's actually just happened is I've manipulated them into providing you with support.

You're a fucking idiot, it was a user-error as I already stated. Ask inadequate as he using brocade backpacks for both his main backpack and his gold backpacks, thus when triggered by the backpack reset it closed his main backpack. I solved the issue as I always do, showed the user how to use software they aren't used to using and provided a detailed explanation about how to operate our scripts. If your tutorial(s) and video(s) were so great, they why aren't more people actually using them instead of asking me how to use Xenobot? It doesn't matter how much you think you're trying to help someone, if you're an asshole about it, just as you are every time that mouth of yours is opened, then nobody gives a shit about what you're saying. Although you know little to nothing about the "industry", you claim, as always since you are the the god of lua code and walking encyclopedia containing all factual information about the universe, that the "industry" would mock me when instead it is a fact that nobody, in the real world, will hire somebody with as much shit on their face as your avatar picture.

This statement is almost worth looking over, as you, the god of lua code and walking encyclopedia containing all factual information about the universe, actually used the same code we use in our scripts to demonstrate how to make a '100% AFK Script' in this (http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?14664-XenoBot-100-AFK-Script-Making) post.




local withdrawManas = math.max(MaxMana - Self.ItemCount(268), 0)*50
local withdrawHealths = math.max(MaxHealth - Self.ItemCount(266), 0)*45
local withdrawAmmo = math.max(MaxAmmo - Self.ItemCount(7378), 0)*15
local totalmoneyneeded = (withdrawManas + withdrawHealths + withdrawAmmo)
local MATHCEIL = (math.ceil((totalmoneyneeded/1000)))*1000

OK, so this is a large chunk to comment on. Firstly, it's ugly as hell. A much more organised way to do this would be to make a function and name it CalculateItemCost, pass in a variable for amount to buy, item ID, and cost per item, then perform these calculations and return the value. It looks shit, and is difficult to debug as a result. Secondly, why would you attempt to truncate a number in such a way? As you are simply rounding, you could use the function math.round. Sure, math.ceil will do the same job, but it once again makes code unreadable and difficult to debug. Last comment about this point, how many people wrote this code? I've noticed elsewhere as well, that your naming convention is to name it whatever the hell you want (e.g totalmoneyneeded all lower case, MATHCEIL very non-descriptive and all upper case, then the camel convention for withdrawHealths etc...) This is incredibly bad practise and anyone in the programming or scripting industry would mock you for it. It is laughable that you have actually managed to use 3 different conventions in 3 consecutive lines. Oh, I almost forgot, why exactly did you put so many brackets on the math.ceil line? Or wait, are you trying to make your code impossible to read? That does seem like the sole intention of this particular script.

XtrmJosh's Code:


elseif (labelName == "DepositGold") then
-- Deposit Gold, check balance.
Walker.Stop()
Self.SayToNpc({"hi", "deposit all", "yes"}, 100)

local withdrawManas = math.max(BuyMana - Self.ItemCount(ManaID), 0)*ManaCost
local withdrawHealths = math.max(BuyHealth - Self.ItemCount(HealthID), 0)*HealthCost
local withdrawAmmo = math.max(BuyAmmo - Self.ItemCount(AmmoID), 0)*AmmoCost
local total = math.abs(withdrawManas + withdrawHealths + withdrawAmmo)

if total >= 1 then
Self.SayToNpc({"withdraw " .. total, "yes", "balance"}, 100)
end
Walker.Start()


Hey wait, that's funny, I wonder where you got your local variables from. :D OH EM GEE!! You told me to use math.round yet you've failed to do so yourself, you took the same 'ugly' bit of code, as you claimed it was, and used it in your tutorial. You've changed my 'totalmoneyneeded' to 'total', you're using my local variables, doing the exact same for each of them with the exact same code. Yet you come to the conclusion of your evaluation of our old bank code by saying the following:



This is incredibly bad practise and anyone in the programming or scripting industry would mock you for it.


Just as you add it to your bit of code in your tutorials clearly going against your evaluation, and overall protest, of our code. So to conclude this statement, you're a fucking idiot - Just as I said in the first sentence of this post.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyEE0qpfeig

[xiaospike]

You're a fucking idiot, it was a user-error as I already stated. Ask inadequate as he using brocade backpacks for both his main backpack and his gold backpacks, thus when triggered by the backpack reset it closed his main backpack. I solved the issue as I always do, showed the user how to use software they aren't used to using and provided a detailed explanation about how to operate our scripts. If your tutorial(s) and video(s) were so great, they why aren't more people actually using them instead of asking me how to use Xenobot? It doesn't matter how much you think you're trying to help someone, if you're an asshole about it, just as you are every time that mouth of yours is opened, then nobody gives a shit about what you're saying. Although you know little to nothing about the "industry", you claim, as always since you are the the god of lua code and walking encyclopedia containing all factual information about the universe, that the "industry" would mock me when instead it is a fact that nobody, in the real world, will hire somebody with as much shit on their face as your avatar picture.

This statement is almost worth looking over, as you, the god of lua code and walking encyclopedia containing all factual information about the universe, actually used the same code we use in our scripts to demonstrate how to make a '100% AFK Script' in this (http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?14664-XenoBot-100-AFK-Script-Making) post.



XtrmJosh's Code:


elseif (labelName == "DepositGold") then
-- Deposit Gold, check balance.
Walker.Stop()
Self.SayToNpc({"hi", "deposit all", "yes"}, 100)

local withdrawManas = math.max(BuyMana - Self.ItemCount(ManaID), 0)*ManaCost
local withdrawHealths = math.max(BuyHealth - Self.ItemCount(HealthID), 0)*HealthCost
local withdrawAmmo = math.max(BuyAmmo - Self.ItemCount(AmmoID), 0)*AmmoCost
local total = math.abs(withdrawManas + withdrawHealths + withdrawAmmo)

if total >= 1 then
Self.SayToNpc({"withdraw " .. total, "yes", "balance"}, 100)
end
Walker.Start()


Hey wait, that's funny, I wonder where you got your local variables from. :D OH EM GEE!! You told me to use math.round yet you've failed to do so yourself, you took the same 'ugly' bit of code, as you claimed it was, and used it in your tutorial. You've changed my 'totalmoneyneeded' to 'total', you're using my local variables, doing the exact same for each of them with the exact same code. Yet you come to the conclusion of your evaluation of our old bank code by saying the following:



Just as you add it to your bit of code in your tutorials clearly going against your evaluation, and overall protest, of our code. So to conclude this statement, you're a fucking idiot - Just as I said in the first sentence of this post.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyEE0qpfeig

XtrmJosh

http://i.qkme.me/3plu4l.jpg

By the way...

http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?14650-Can-t-Inject-Xenobot-Character-Isn-t-On-The-List&p=187435&viewfull=1#post187435

"You call people out for doing the exact shit you do, lmao."

[XtrmJosh]

xiaospike - So why bother then?

Swaghetti - These people don't dislike me for anything other than the fact that I dislike them and make it completely obvious. They are attempting to run a "business" on the concept of mass manufacturing absolute tripe. It isn't worth anyones money, and isn't deserving of the credit which they get for it.

Avani - Yeah, why not? As I already explained, the first step in debugging code is understanding it. If I don't understand the code, I can't debug it. I attempted to debug it, realised I would get nowhere since I would have to both read, review, adapt, and update it to be something which somebody can understand. So, yeah I went off topic, but ask yourself this, did I or did I not get the result I was aiming for?

Joshwa534 - As already explained, the intention of my post was to draw the attention of your "team" and acquire some support for this guy. If anything, you should be grateful for the fact that I have encouraged you to do so, as now that he's been supported by you he's potentially more likely to buy from you in the future. Could you define at what point exactly I declared myself the God of Lua code? I don't seem to recall that too clearly, so do remind me.

The code sample you've copied from my project was hand written by myself. For non-user friendly variables I like to use the camel hump convention, with the lower first and upper second word. For user friendly variables I like to use the camel hump convention with the upper first and upper second word. This seperates the two nicely. You can also probably tell that it's not an exact copy of your code because I didn't use double brackets nor math.ceil in my code. I mean, had I used those two things, I would've been inclined to agree with you (purely from a spectator view), but due to the commonality of the variable names, you have no grounds to argue that this is a copy of your code. To respond to the point that the code is ugly, yeah, it is, but my code is not aimed at some professional, trying to debug, it is aimed at beginners looking to make their own scripts. It provides a more obvious flow, in spite of some less obvious wording. Your scripts, however, are advertised at people who buy scripts with the intention of configuring variables and starting them. In my instance, workflow is more important than ease of reading. If you like I could even go back to my scripts from when I wrote them for BugWT, and once again you will see that I use the camel hump convention in exactly the same manner. Note that the comment about bad practise was targeting the idea of using 3 different naming conventions on 3 different lines. Yes, that is laughable. The idea of using math.max, as I stated, was not the worst one, but it did make the code ugly (excused on my part for readability). Do you have downs syndrome?

xiaospike - I had a debate with DarkstaR about that post, and his reasoning was that he was under the impression that I was trying to wind up a guy new to another forum which I suspect you are unaware of. Quoting posts you know nothing about is both pointless, and makes you look like even more of a retard. The discussion DarkstaR was posting in on that particular thread was my crusade to stop people from posting the words "use the search function" where they are neither applicable nor helpful. The discussion which he was referring to when he posted that particular line was one about the way I greeted a user who was offering to pay people to add bot detection software into his OT. I suggested to him that he wouldn't be able to afford it, and he continued to persist in saying he would pay for it. I gave him an idea of "the going rate" for programming contracting, and after I crammed it into his ears long enough, he finally settled down and accepted that he couldn't pay for it, so I started pointing him in the direction of tutorials, the Visual Studio IDE, and some other useful stuff. At that point he began insulting some friends and developers who I have a great deal of respect for, at which point I told him where to shove it.

To anyone who wants to persist with the idea that my code is a poor example, that's kinda irrelevant too. Since my code is there purely as an example, offered free. Your code, however, is the same as you use in all your scripts (except for those for which Spectrus has allowed you to use his new dynamic town system). That includes sold and free scripts, so yeah, you're trying to sell your shit, I'm simply trying to share mine for free, with a bit of education.

[Swaghetti]

XtrmJosh

My first impression of you is that you're trying to be better and more intelligent than anyone else in these forums, that kind of personality ain't appreciated and I dislike you for this.

[XtrmJosh]

XtrmJosh

My first impression of you is that you're trying to be better and more intelligent than anyone else in these forums, that kind of personality ain't appreciated and I dislike you for this.

Dislike me all you want, I'm not here to impress you nor anyone else. The entire purpose of this argument is that I don't appreciate the way that JXScripts are currently portraying the scripting community. If it was just free scripts which were given out, I wouldn't object so much, but I've bought 2 scripts from them, and neither of those two scripts worked as advertised, nor were they of any real use to me. The end result of me buying those two scripts was that I remade them using my own code and waypoints... The only thing I really gained from it was the knowledge that their scripts are not worthy of being sold. The real complaint, above all else, however, is that the second script I bought for them didn't even leave town. It ran around town between all the refilling points (bank, manas, spears, depot). It's the sheer balls that it takes to publish a script without even the most basic of testing... That's what really bugs me.

[DarkstaR]

I see flawed points on both sides of this argument, but I must say, I really think Xtrm needs to see the burn ward after this one:



By the way...

http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?14650-Can-t-Inject-Xenobot-Character-Isn-t-On-The-List&p=187435&viewfull=1#post187435

"You call people out for doing the exact shit you do, lmao."


I totally forgot I made that post.

[Hawk]

Dislike me all you want, I'm not here to impress you nor anyone else. The entire purpose of this argument is that I don't appreciate the way that JXScripts are currently portraying the scripting community. If it was just free scripts which were given out, I wouldn't object so much, but I've bought 2 scripts from them, and neither of those two scripts worked as advertised, nor were they of any real use to me. The end result of me buying those two scripts was that I remade them using my own code and waypoints... The only thing I really gained from it was the knowledge that their scripts are not worthy of being sold. The real complaint, above all else, however, is that the second script I bought for them didn't even leave town. It ran around town between all the refilling points (bank, manas, spears, depot). It's the sheer balls that it takes to publish a script without even the most basic of testing... That's what really bugs me.

Why dont u make ur own bussines with scripts and be uber scripter?

All u can do is flame boards and people's work. What have u done that can be called useful lately?

[Nakuu]

Can you guys stop being idiots and focus on the question in hand: Rydan Nakuu.
What's your problem, dude? How can you call me an idiot if you don't even know me? I actually tried to help him... but whatever.. you're just an ignorant kid trying to be that 'good guy' on the forum that helps everyone for free and create tutorials to help people create scripts... and then you call them idiots for creating unsafe, badly written scripts. Just pathetic.

[XtrmJosh]

Why dont u make ur own bussines with scripts and be uber scripter?

All u can do is flame boards and people's work. What have u done that can be called useful lately?

What have I done that's useful? I've made a video tutorial guiding people on how to make AFK scripts. I've made several tutorials for another forum for C# programming with Tibia, though it's not particularly important here, it shows what I am actually here to do. My intention is not solely to piss people off, my intention is to open the floor for people to improve and learn...

[XtrmJosh]

What's your problem, dude? How can you call me an idiot if you don't even know me? I actually tried to help him... but whatever.. you're just an ignorant kid trying to be that 'good guy' on the forum that helps everyone for free and create tutorials to help people create scripts... and then you call them idiots for creating unsafe, badly written scripts. Just pathetic.

Firstly, it was you who threw the first insult by calling JXScripts out (without realising) on their badly written scripts. Secondly, in what way are you coming to the conclusion that my tutorial is how JXScripts learned to script? If it were from one of my tutorials, how did they get their hands on my tutorial before I even recorded it? I don't particularly care that they are creating bad scripts, the thing I care about is that they are trying to sell them. The only reason they have succeeded is through a lack of competition. Personally, I don't have the time (as I've said numerous times before) to compete. It did appeal to me once, I thought about it, and I even had graphics made up and began making a website, but I couldn't find the time to finish the website, let alone to make enough scripts to develop any realistically sized database. Based on your first response here, my only knowledge of you was that you immediately assumed that his script was badly written, in spite of the fact that the circumstances surrounding the failure pointed to a different issue entirely. So, yes, for that particular reason, you did appear to me to be an idiot. For the fact that you are now trying to reproduce an argument which is already being had here, well, you're not helping yourself.

[Swaghetti]

And still you manage to piss people off. Do you ever take one step back and actually think about your actions and how you talk to people? It's a good starting advice.

[Hawk]

What have I done that's useful? I've made a video tutorial guiding people on how to make AFK scripts. I've made several tutorials for another forum for C# programming with Tibia, though it's not particularly important here, it shows what I am actually here to do. My intention is not solely to piss people off, my intention is to open the floor for people to improve and learn...

Now get me someone that fins ur tutorials useful. Anyone who wants to learn, knows where to find knowledge on this forum. Ure just a bit older kiddo with slightly bigger vocabulary of english than average aged user on this forum, trying to boost ur own selfconfidence online. If u were of any use u'd contribute to our community rather then flaming and talking non-sence. Cure ur complexes somewhere else plax.

[Nakuu]

XtrmJosh
I'll just answer your first question since I can't be arsed reading such a long posts from you. So first of all.. I didn't say JX's scripts are badly written or anything. If I knew it was their scripts my first guess on his problem would be something else than badly written scripts, he just didn't give enough details that could help me understand his problem :) And no, I am pretty sure he/they didn't learn to create scripts from your tutorials but in some time there might be some people that will create threads because of your guide so will you call them idiots or whatever as well?

I am out of discussion, bye.

Oh and btw. even if they sell "bad scripts" as you said.. isn't it better than nothing? Let people who buy them decide if it was worth buying their scripts or not.

[kopper]

Your attempt to get us to help inadequte is kinda late... we had already fixed his issue before any of us had even see this. Your "experiment" is just a cover story for your envy of us. You bought a script that needed to be updated because none of us had ran it since updating it, big deal get over it. Yes our code is not perfect, but really, whos on this forum is? Syntax? Spectrus? Darkstar? that's pretty much it, and I'm sure there's things they could do better. Your "criticism" is nothing more than useless garbage that you spew from your mouth. When I told you to grow up and go outside, it was so that you could be a better person. Apparently that is too much to ask from you though. You will continue to be an un-important person in life with mental issues and that's fine with me but was hoping for once in your life you would listen to the advice of another so you can better your life. This code is months and months old. Hell it's before I even joined up with JX scripts. This code will not get you banned, I've ran it on several accounts none of which have been banned.

[XtrmJosh]

And still you manage to piss people off. Do you ever take one step back and actually think about your actions and how you talk to people? It's a good starting advice.

Every post I write has been carefully crafted, nothing I say isn't though about. I don't intentionally post here to piss people off, but I'm not gonna fuck around trying desperately not to piss people off. If I think someone needs a lesson hammered into them, I will do my best to be the person hammering it in.


Now get me someone that fins ur tutorials useful. Anyone who wants to learn, knows where to find knowledge on this forum. Ure just a bit older kiddo with slightly bigger vocabulary of english than average aged user on this forum, trying to boost ur own selfconfidence online. If u were of any use u'd contribute to our community rather then flaming and talking non-sence. Cure ur complexes somewhere else plax.

12 People posted on the thread saying things which generally resemble the term "thank you", and show appreciation for the video. I'm sure that at least one of the people who posted in that thread found it useful. You're more than welcome to try argue that one, but I don't think you're gonna get anywhere. The fact is there is nowhere to find knowledge on this forum. People could try to download a script, but they'd inevitably find a script from before the update in which libraries such as Forgee & Sirmate were made redundant. The fact is, this place has very little in the way of good quality resources. I have no need to boost my self confidence, as I am not confident in anything other than guiding people. I won't pretend to be an expert in Lua, nor in any of the other languages in which I can code. I have never done so, all of the videos which I make (including those which use C#, as on my YouTube channel) are written primarily based on research over experience. If someone asks me today "can you make a tutorial for how to read memory using C++?" I will first spend a few hours researching it, then convert it into a set of chunks which I can examine and talk through as I work on. At that point the video takes structure, and that is where all my "knowledge" comes from. I don't know any of the shit I talk about really, and even in assembling this argument I had to do some searching to find Lua functionality. If people would stop releasing such junk I wouldn't feel obliged to spend my time arguing, and I may well do something productive. Though I will point out that the last time I said to some people who were arguing in chat box "Stop arguing and do something productive" I was mocked and somebody tried to start an argument with me. I can't imagine that every second you're at your PC you are being productive, so I should imagine you have no such high expectations for me. I am not always in the mood to write code, nor to make tutorials, so I will not constantly be making them. I will, however, contribute when and where I feel appropriate, and once I have done the research I require.


XtrmJosh
I'll just answer your first question since I can't be arsed reading such a long posts from you. So first of all.. I didn't say JX's scripts are badly written or anything. If I knew it was their scripts my first guess on his problem would be something else than badly written scripts, he just didn't give enough details that could help me understand his problem :) And no, I am pretty sure he/they didn't learn to create scripts from your tutorials but in some time there might be some people that will create threads because of your guide so will you call them idiots or whatever as well?

I am out of discussion, bye.

Yes, you did.


I tested today my scripts today and everything works fine so seems like it's badly wrote script after all.

Are you trying to tell me you didn't post that? The implication is crystal clear, so don't try to deny it.


Your attempt to get us to help inadequte is kinda late... we had already fixed his issue before any of us had even see this. Your "experiment" is just a cover story for your envy of us. You bought a script that needed to be updated because none of us had ran it since updating it, big deal get over it. Yes our code is not perfect, but really, whos on this forum is? Syntax? Spectrus? Darkstar? that's pretty much it, and I'm sure there's things they could do better. Your "criticism" is nothing more than useless garbage that you spew from your mouth. When I told you to grow up and go outside, it was so that you could be a better person. Apparently that is too much to ask from you though. You will continue to be an un-important person in life with mental issues and that's fine with me but was hoping for once in your life you would listen to the advice of another so you can better your life. This code is months and months old. Hell it's before I even joined up with JX scripts. This code will not get you banned, I've ran it on several accounts none of which have been banned.

Within 20 minutes of inadequate posting his response (#11), I posted my script analysis. 10 minutes after I posted my analysis, tagging all of your team, the problem was fixed. Now, call my sceptical, but I smell a fuckton of bullshit. On top of that, what the hell would I have to envy of you? You're the bottom of the fucking bottom, you sell pile after pile of steaming fresh shit, and what for? A pittance. I bought a script which was not functional, why would you sell a script which isn't functional? Your code is far from perfect, it's not even consistent. There is a saying amongst the software testing industry, and it goes something like "It's ok to be wrong, provided you are consistently wrong." It's quite acceptable to do something wrong, as long as you are consistent, because when you are consistent it is easy to trace and fix these issues.

If you're gonna comment on DarkstaRs code not being correct, ask yourself this, before releasing the bot, do you think he tested it? Before releasing each update, do you think he tests it? After Tibia updates, do you think he sits there, accepts the new proxy, and waits for complaints to come rolling in before updating the memory addresses? Absolutely not. So why would you even imply that your lack of testing compares remotely to anything that he does? It just isn't comparable.

You're telling me that my life is not good? You clearly have no idea who I am, what I do, or of any aspect of my personal life. I live my life as I want to, and if that includes arguing with people like yourself, that's my decision. I spend 11 hours a day working, 3 hours or so a day on my computer on forums like this, maybe another couple of hours programming, and on the weekends I spend the most part out on my motorcycle. That's when I'm not decorating the rooms of my house, going for a drive to the seaside, holidaying in Majorca, dining at restaurants with my girlfriend of 6 years, or doing any of my other hobbies. As I said, you know nothing of my life, so don't try to judge it. Also, what are these mental issues of which you speak? Not quite following how you came to make a psychoanalysis of me based on an argument on the forum. Stop trying to insult me, and try to maintain a decent level of debate. Continuing to insult me will result in little more than your service being disrupted further by insults coming straight back at you in your own scripting thread. This forum isn't here for you to insult people, it is a place where freedom of speech is accepted, yes, but throwing pointless insults is just like sticking two fingers up at DarkstaR.

Are you now guaranteeing me that your code will not get me banned? Or am I misinterpreting your words? That's what it sounds like to me. You don't know how the detection system works, so you can't say anything of sorts. All we really know about the detection system is that it probably does work based on data farming. Data farming is a method of bot detection which works based on the concept that bots generate patterns. Running scripts like the one listed here will result in patterns being generated. The only explanation for why it hasn't caused bans so far is that the bot itself has some good randomisation features.

[Hawk]

I aint here to argue. I just pointed out what kind of person u are. And not in any world for any amount of cash id read this bunch of bullshit u wrote.

[Joshwa534]

Your code, however, is the same as you use in all your scripts (except for those for which Spectrus has allowed you to use his new dynamic town system). That includes sold and free scripts, so yeah, you're trying to sell your shit, I'm simply trying to share mine for free, with a bit of education. I'm curious who told you that Spectrus was working with us. In all honesty though if you think the path system used in the dynamic towns is the only thing we're doing with Syntax then you're poorly mistaken. The code has come a long way since we first started using it also, it wasn't like we just opened an instruction manual and followed directions. Improvements have been made, things have been adjusted, added and removed not to mention it provided us an opportunity to test an issue with labels being skipped. We knew this was an issue about a month ago and now thanks to Syntax & DarkstaR the patch has been released to fix that exact issue.

Just like you, there are other people that question the reasoning behind some of the things we do but when I tell you that we have to add 'wait(2000)' to try fixing the issue of skipping labels, you'll just laugh until you experience it yourself, at that point you'll say "Omg its bugged, its your fault." when in fact it had nothing to do with the code. I told Syntax & Spectrus about this issue a long time ago but neither of them had encountered it before so how were they to really know what was going on? Now that it is fixed, sure, we can remove extra waits from our code by why waste the time doing that when we can update the entire script? The same logic applies to your bitching, why bother dissecting and complaining about old code when you can clearly see that we're switching everything as a whole? You're wasting your time and your "constructive criticism" means jack shit to us, as a team, since everything is already being changed. If you have an issue with how things are currently being done in the new code then feel free to let us know. I made a post on our thread a few nights ago, just as Syntax did in the chat box, asking people to test our newly released [All] North Thais Trolls. We're looking for feedback concerning the functionality of the code itself, something that's right up your alley. So instead of bitching about old shit, download the new shit and try it out.

You asked if I had 'downs' syndrome but next time you're going to insult me, at least learn how to spell down (not downs) syndrome. I wouldn't use down syndrome as something to insult someone, its like if I asked you if you have a rare condition called vitiligo just because your avatar picture looks like you have dysfunctional skin pigmentation. On the contrary, it is just shit smeared all over that pretty little face of yours.


The real complaint, above all else, however, is that the second script I bought for them didn't even leave town. It ran around town between all the refilling points (bank, manas, spears, depot). It's the sheer balls that it takes to publish a script without even the most basic of testing... That's what really bugs me.

As for this remark: you claim you know what you're talking about and sure do love to act like you're better than everyone else. So how come you didn't see the part of code that said 'MinAmmo = 45' and 'MaxAmmo = 15'? Clearly this kept you in town, did you even bother looking at the setup before complaining about looping in town? I've seen you tell people to check the setup before starting a script, yet you fail to follow your own instructions resulting in your displeasure, caused by you. Your issue is that you're so high on that mighty horse than you can't even admit the fault was partially yours and even after you bitched about it, we fixed it within 25 minutes by flip flopping the values between the two locals. Yet you continued in attempt to chargeback the $3 you paid for the script, which you failed to succeed. If you actually want to help people, as you say you do, then stop bitching and moaning and actually help people instead.

Luckily for you, we have made a new piece of code that's aimed directly at your complaint. As I said on my Twitch channel, its the "anti-XtrmJosh bitch check" which checks for mistakes entered by the user and notifies them of the mistake so they, as a user, can read the message and make the applicable change without writing 3,025,309,583 walls of text bitching, just as you continue to do, about why they're getting stuck in town.

Concerning JXScripts Team:
xiaospike kopper Syntax

I'm no longer interested in this conversation, you guys can post whatever you want in regards to this simpleton but I won't respond to him again, regardless of what's being said or any issues he may experience in the future. XtrmJosh Anything further may be taken up with whoever in this team still gives a fuck about what you're ranting on about but I personally will not explain myself to you again. You're beating a dead horse, move on or shut the fuck up.

Thank you,
Joshwa534

[xiaospike]

XtrmJosh


TL;DR


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cT_Ulmcrys

at the same time...

http://thatcrazytattooedbaldbroad.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/shutthefuckup.jpg

[RickyP602]

XtrmJosh


TL;DR


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cT_Ulmcrys

at the same time...

http://thatcrazytattooedbaldbroad.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/shutthefuckup.jpg

I lol'd, Thanks

[XtrmJosh]

I'm curious who told you that Spectrus was working with us. In all honesty though if you think the path system used in the dynamic towns is the only thing we're doing with Syntax then you're poorly mistaken. The code has come a long way since we first started using it also, it wasn't like we just opened an instruction manual and followed directions. Improvements have been made, things have been adjusted, added and removed not to mention it provided us an opportunity to test an issue with labels being skipped. We knew this was an issue about a month ago and now thanks to Syntax & DarkstaR the patch has been released to fix that exact issue.

Just like you, there are other people that question the reasoning behind some of the things we do but when I tell you that we have to add 'wait(2000)' to try fixing the issue of skipping labels, you'll just laugh until you experience it yourself, at that point you'll say "Omg its bugged, its your fault." when in fact it had nothing to do with the code. I told Syntax & Spectrus about this issue a long time ago but neither of them had encountered it before so how were they to really know what was going on? Now that it is fixed, sure, we can remove extra waits from our code by why waste the time doing that when we can update the entire script? The same logic applies to your bitching, why bother dissecting and complaining about old code when you can clearly see that we're switching everything as a whole? You're wasting your time and your "constructive criticism" means jack shit to us, as a team, since everything is already being changed. If you have an issue with how things are currently being done in the new code then feel free to let us know. I made a post on our thread a few nights ago, just as Syntax did in the chat box, asking people to test our newly released [All] North Thais Trolls. We're looking for feedback concerning the functionality of the code itself, something that's right up your alley. So instead of bitching about old shit, download the new shit and try it out.

You asked if I had 'downs' syndrome but next time you're going to insult me, at least learn how to spell down (not downs) syndrome. I wouldn't use down syndrome as something to insult someone, its like if I asked you if you have a rare condition called vitiligo just because your avatar picture looks like you have dysfunctional skin pigmentation. On the contrary, it is just shit smeared all over that pretty little face of yours.



As for this remark: you claim you know what you're talking about and sure do love to act like you're better than everyone else. So how come you didn't see the part of code that said 'MinAmmo = 45' and 'MaxAmmo = 15'? Clearly this kept you in town, did you even bother looking at the setup before complaining about looping in town? I've seen you tell people to check the setup before starting a script, yet you fail to follow your own instructions resulting in your displeasure, caused by you. Your issue is that you're so high on that mighty horse than you can't even admit the fault was partially yours and even after you bitched about it, we fixed it within 25 minutes by flip flopping the values between the two locals. Yet you continued in attempt to chargeback the $3 you paid for the script, which you failed to succeed. If you actually want to help people, as you say you do, then stop bitching and moaning and actually help people instead.

Luckily for you, we have made a new piece of code that's aimed directly at your complaint. As I said on my Twitch channel, its the "anti-XtrmJosh bitch check" which checks for mistakes entered by the user and notifies them of the mistake so they, as a user, can read the message and make the applicable change without writing 3,025,309,583 walls of text bitching, just as you continue to do, about why they're getting stuck in town.

Concerning JXScripts Team:
xiaospike kopper Syntax

I'm no longer interested in this conversation, you guys can post whatever you want in regards to this simpleton but I won't respond to him again, regardless of what's being said or any issues he may experience in the future. XtrmJosh Anything further may be taken up with whoever in this team still gives a fuck about what you're ranting on about but I personally will not explain myself to you again. You're beating a dead horse, move on or shut the fuck up.

Thank you,
Joshwa534

I actually meant to say Syntax, as I don't generally refer to either of them by their forum names due to the people I speak to on Skype. The reason I know they are working with you is because I am observant and aware. When I see something happening which is of interest to me, I will do my best to find out exactly what it is, especially when that is a reputable, well known, highly respected member of the forum linking your scripts.

If your code is constantly being improved, why are you still selling it in its old state? It gives a bad impression, and is generally a bad idea considering the way in which the code itself is working. I have not seen any improvements myself, and so far I've looked at a well sized array of both paid and free scripts made by your team. Admittedly I've only paid for 2, but I do have friends who buy scripts too, and when they don't work they come to me asking why, so I end up debugging them via TeamViewer and finding the issue. All of them that I've seen have been using this same code, with very few differences.

I've been aware of the majority of bugs on XB (having access to the bug tracking system helps), and I was aware of a bug in which some labels were skipped from time to time. The common workaround to the issue was to use Walker.Stop() and Walker.Start(), and in my experience that worked just fine. It still works just fine, and I'm encountering no issues with it. I see no reason why you would use a sleep, especially one of 2 seconds. Being as you're so aware of the current issues, surely you would also be aware of when they are fixed, and be one of the first to update your scripts to reflect the current state of the bot? Or do you not care about maintenance? Is your only interest drawing in customers by a large script base? The new shit as you refer to it is not suitable for any of my characters and I have no desire to bot any character at Thais north trolls. If you want a tester, as I've said to many other scripting teams in the past, I'd be more than willing to become that tester, but I would expect not only that the script works in a productive way, but also that the code itself looks respectable. I guess for the sheer fact that Syntax is writing all the Lua now, that won't really be necessary, since he does have an understanding of how to write as well as debug code before trying to shift it.

I really wish you'd done your research here, because the syndrome does in fact go by multiple names, both "Down's Syndrome" and "Down Syndrome". The fact that you'd even try to pull me up on that is ludicrous. On top of that, you're mocking my insults after the shit you and your team has been throwing around? My avatar is in fact a picture of myself which was modified using an app on my old iPhone. Would've thought that it would be quite obvious to you, then again you shouldn't ever show a fool a brick and tell him it's a meal.

The first script I bought from you had a setup which any reasonable minded person would expect to work out of the box. I flicked through the variables, looking to run it and get off to bed quickly, and noticed the script walking back and forth in town, so had to stop the script and leave it. The fact that you'd sell a script with a setup which will cause that behaviour is just insane. As mentioned several times, it demonstrates a clear lack of testing and the simple desire to get scripts sold without thinking about the consequences. I attempted to charge back the $3 out of principle. The reason I didn't proceed with the chargeback? Out of respect for DarkstaR. The only reason I didn't proceed with that is because you threatened to leave the forums, and your script base would have been depleted as a result. The fact is, you retards do have something to offer, regardless of how shit it is in current state. The reason I'm willing to proceed now? Well, I'm sick of seeing the tripe that gets flogged on this forum, and I'm sick and tired of friends coming to me when your scripts don't work. You're forgetting, I lead the guild on Olympa, and the majority of the members speak to me on Skype. On top of that, probably 30% or more of the community who don't play Olympa also speak to me for various other reasons, so whenever someone buys one of your scripts there is a good chance that they will talk to me as a first point of call, since I'm online all day at work and for a good few hours in the evening. I get harassed on a daily basis about scripts from all corners of this forum, and yours are by far the most common that I get asked about.

[Avani]

XtrmJosh

Nobody likes you, just GTFO.

[XtrmJosh]

XtrmJosh

Nobody likes you, just GTFO.

You really think I care if anyone in this thread likes me? You really must have some serious issues if you expected me to ever think that. As I've said to a number of people, I'm not here to be liked, I'm here to benefit the general community.

[Avani]

You really think I care if anyone in this thread likes me? You really must have some serious issues if you expected me to ever think that. As I've said to a number of people, I'm not here to be liked, I'm here to benefit the general community.

But all you do is destroy the good mood. If you could just do something for the community instead of bragging about it. Like make some scripts for the Community LUA thread me and JXScipts + Spectrus made. That's something that really benefits the community.

[XtrmJosh]

But all you do is destroy the good mood. If you could just do something for the community instead of bragging about it. Like make some scripts for the Community LUA thread me and JXScipts + Spectrus made. That's something that really benefits the community.

I mean no offence to Syntax when I say this, but isn't that exactly what you're now joining up to dispel? I mean, what's happening is you're starting to make scripts using obfuscated code... It's kinda completely the opposite, you're actually taking code which could otherwise be incredibly useful, and making it (relatively speaking) useless to anyone else, except for the purpose of running the script. In doing that you're hardly helping the community, far from it, you're actually hindering the community.

With regards to what I do, well, I go by the well known prophecy Give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach a man to fish, feed him for life. I don't like to release bits of Lua code to people when I could potentially teach them to write it for themselves...

[Syntax]

I mean no offence to Syntax when I say this, but isn't that exactly what you're now joining up to dispel? I mean, what's happening is you're starting to make scripts using obfuscated code... It's kinda completely the opposite, you're actually taking code which could otherwise be incredibly useful, and making it (relatively speaking) useless to anyone else, except for the purpose of running the script. In doing that you're hardly helping the community, far from it, you're actually hindering the community.

With regards to what I do, well, I go by the well known prophecy Give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach a man to fish, feed him for life. I don't like to release bits of Lua code to people when I could potentially teach them to write it for themselves...

The code I obfuscate is the code that is very specific to how our system operates. Most of it can be of little use to it, and even more of it people wouldn't be able to understand. The people who could understand it would be able to make it anyway.
The code I release to the public are things that I feel the community could use, modify, and adapt to their own code. As you have already said the proverb, I don't have to repeat it.

Tutorials are great, but when learning you need to see real applications, and even better, a template to work off of.
When you teach something to a person, you show them example problems and give them the answers to them, but you don't hand them all the answers, they will never learn.

All that being said, I'm not a saint, this is a business. I give back to the community because I feel like I should, but I'm not obligated to. This is why there is a free and paid version of XenoMap.
Both benefit the community. Some people don't want to learn shit, they'd rather pay money for scripts, and that's just fine. Not everyone has time or the interest in scripting. I/We cater to both.


edit: Btw, no offense, but half your post said that obfuscated code is bad and the code would be useful, the other half you said you don't like to release bits of code when they could write it themselves. Wat?

[XtrmJosh]

The code I obfuscate is the code that is very specific to how our system operates. Most of it can be of little use to it, and even more of it people wouldn't be able to understand. The people who could understand it would be able to make it anyway.
The code I release to the public are things that I feel the community could use, modify, and adapt to their own code. As you have already said the proverb, I don't have to repeat it.

Tutorials are great, but when learning you need to see real applications, and even better, a template to work off of.
When you teach something to a person, you show them example problems and give them the answers to them, but you don't hand them all the answers, they will never learn.

All that being said, I'm not a saint, this is a business. I give back to the community because I feel like I should, but I'm not obligated to. This is why there is a free and paid version of XenoMap.
Both benefit the community. Some people don't want to learn shit, they'd rather pay money for scripts, and that's just fine. Not everyone has time or the interest in scripting. I/We cater to both.


edit: Btw, no offense, but half your post said that obfuscated code is bad and the code would be useful, the other half you said you don't like to release bits of code when they could write it themselves. Wat?

Finally, someone I can debate with who has an actual argument. Too bad I'm a bit drained from the last few hours...

Well, the truth is, you know me, you know I'm no expert. I'm no expert at Lua, and it would take me a while to make anything of any real value to ship to people. For those reasons, I can't really see enough benefit in me writing anything more substantial than what I have already submitted to these forums. I mean, I've thought in the past about trying to make a system similar to yours, but I'd have gone the whole hog and made it so that in the setup you'd declare every part of (from the basic stuff like the mana potion types to buy, to the slightly less basic stuff like a list of items to deposit). The problem again comes down to my abilities with Lua. This would effectively provide the same thing that I'm looking to provide with the video tutorial situation, but a bit simpler as a user could simply declare a list of variables and the code behind it would handle the rest. The other issues I was faced with when I first attempted it were things like levers, doors, floor checking, amongst a few others. It didn't really seem feasible to write the code to be adaptable enough to validate the concept.

Beyond the issues I faced, I thought about it some more and it struck me that actually the other problem which would need to be considered is that the end goal of a user being able to simple download, implement, and run it. The user would still need to know a substantial amount of Lua, and they would not explicitly have benefited from using the system, instead they would have done what they do already, that is downloading a script, setting some variables, and running it. My goal is to teach people, and I can't do that if I'm just going to provide a download with which you'd just fill in the blanks, and run it as a script.

For those reasons I chose the route of making the video(s). The videos provide users with far more than I could hope to teach people how to do it for themselves. The actual intention initially was also to reduce the amount of people who came to the forums (and to my skype) asking for help with scripts, by teaching them how to debug and tinker.

Business is acceptable, I can't argue with that, hence why my previous post was meant with minimal amounts of offence to yourself. The main point of the comment is that I'm being instructed to "do something for the community" by someone who is doing something strictly for themselves (and of course for your benefit, and with the free scripts there is some benefit to the end users). In BugWT we were constantly fighting to get code encryption to hide some of our more advanced scripts like the rune shooters and spell casters. That's just the way the world works.

[Joshwa534]

I actually meant to say Syntax, as I don't generally refer to either of them by their forum names due to the people I speak to on Skype. The reason I know they are working with you is because I am observant and aware. When I see something happening which is of interest to me, I will do my best to find out exactly what it is, especially when that is a reputable, well known, highly respected member of the forum linking your scripts.

If your code is constantly being improved, why are you still selling it in its old state? It gives a bad impression, and is generally a bad idea considering the way in which the code itself is working. I have not seen any improvements myself, and so far I've looked at a well sized array of both paid and free scripts made by your team. Admittedly I've only paid for 2, but I do have friends who buy scripts too, and when they don't work they come to me asking why, so I end up debugging them via TeamViewer and finding the issue. All of them that I've seen have been using this same code, with very few differences.

I've been aware of the majority of bugs on XB (having access to the bug tracking system helps), and I was aware of a bug in which some labels were skipped from time to time. The common workaround to the issue was to use Walker.Stop() and Walker.Start(), and in my experience that worked just fine. It still works just fine, and I'm encountering no issues with it. I see no reason why you would use a sleep, especially one of 2 seconds. Being as you're so aware of the current issues, surely you would also be aware of when they are fixed, and be one of the first to update your scripts to reflect the current state of the bot? Or do you not care about maintenance? Is your only interest drawing in customers by a large script base? The new shit as you refer to it is not suitable for any of my characters and I have no desire to bot any character at Thais north trolls. If you want a tester, as I've said to many other scripting teams in the past, I'd be more than willing to become that tester, but I would expect not only that the script works in a productive way, but also that the code itself looks respectable. I guess for the sheer fact that Syntax is writing all the Lua now, that won't really be necessary, since he does have an understanding of how to write as well as debug code before trying to shift it.

I really wish you'd done your research here, because the syndrome does in fact go by multiple names, both "Down's Syndrome" and "Down Syndrome". The fact that you'd even try to pull me up on that is ludicrous. On top of that, you're mocking my insults after the shit you and your team has been throwing around? My avatar is in fact a picture of myself which was modified using an app on my old iPhone. Would've thought that it would be quite obvious to you, then again you shouldn't ever show a fool a brick and tell him it's a meal.

The first script I bought from you had a setup which any reasonable minded person would expect to work out of the box. I flicked through the variables, looking to run it and get off to bed quickly, and noticed the script walking back and forth in town, so had to stop the script and leave it. The fact that you'd sell a script with a setup which will cause that behaviour is just insane. As mentioned several times, it demonstrates a clear lack of testing and the simple desire to get scripts sold without thinking about the consequences. I attempted to charge back the $3 out of principle. The reason I didn't proceed with the chargeback? Out of respect for DarkstaR. The only reason I didn't proceed with that is because you threatened to leave the forums, and your script base would have been depleted as a result. The fact is, you retards do have something to offer, regardless of how shit it is in current state. The reason I'm willing to proceed now? Well, I'm sick of seeing the tripe that gets flogged on this forum, and I'm sick and tired of friends coming to me when your scripts don't work. You're forgetting, I lead the guild on Olympa, and the majority of the members speak to me on Skype. On top of that, probably 30% or more of the community who don't play Olympa also speak to me for various other reasons, so whenever someone buys one of your scripts there is a good chance that they will talk to me as a first point of call, since I'm online all day at work and for a good few hours in the evening. I get harassed on a daily basis about scripts from all corners of this forum, and yours are by far the most common that I get asked about.

Skipping Labels:
Walker.Stop() & Walker.Start() did absolutely nothing to help the labels from being skipped so we had to try every option possible. I'm not sure that you have any idea what you're talking about concerning the labels skipping since you haven't even experienced it yourself.

Current Issues, updating & maintenance:
I reported this to Spectrus and Syntax over Skype calls, neither of them had experienced what we were describing thus they didn't know if it was an issue on our end or an issue in Xenobot. Once we created a completely new script, where Syntax could see every bit of what was going on and it started skipping labels then yes, it flew up some flags and grabbed his attention. Yes, we knew Nick was updating Xenobot and yes, we had the patch prior to release so we could make sure it was working as it should have been. We knew there wouldn't be any reason to update scripts with any lua code and/or xbst changes because of how labels were going to be handled once the patch was released, so what exactly are you getting at? Who was the largest scripting service in December 2012 and still the fastest at updating to the new functions when Xenobot was updated the day before Christmas Eve? Have you even asked yourself why Walker.Start() and Walker.Start() aren't even needed a vast majority of labels now? If you knew what was going on over here in the real world then you would know that everything you're saying is a pointless waste of time. You complaining about old code is a waste of time, bitching that we aren't updating the old scripts when we are is just preposterous.

Everything else:
We will never ask you to be one of our testers, we aren't even remotely interested in your offer. I don't care that you don't have any characters suitable to bot in North Thais Trolls as I've mentioned plenty of times before, we're asking for feedback concerning the functionality of the new code. The fact that you lead a guild on Olympa has little to do with your argument, I lead the largest American guild on Magera - doesn't mean shit. As for your friends or guild members asking for help, I'm online 18+ hours daily, the people that need help have access to my Skype, Ventrilo, Twitch & in-game names. I don't understand how you would possibly think the following statement: "so whenever someone buys one of your scripts there is a good chance that they will talk to me as a first point of call". If I was buying scripts from 'x' scripter then I surely wouldn't expect to talk to Ben about 'x' scripter's scripts since he is not the person that created the scripts.

More bullshit I have to reply to:
As far as you being "harassed" daily from all corners of this forum.. That simply sounds like you've got some issues of your own. I don't see people creating threads "OH XTRMJOSH PLZ HELP ME!". When you cater to as many people as we do, have as many scripts available as we do and are generally enjoyed by the community as we are then yes, you will have a large amount of people using your scripts - just like we do. I wouldn't think to buy a product from someone that is purely an asshole to every living soul he meets online. But hey, go ahead and continue to feel that the community is harassing you while the truth remains that you're the one putting yourself in other people's business like its your duty because you're a guy from England that thinks he's the god of lua code and knows everything in the universe.

Enjoy you're evening and hey, if you want to continue talking shit, bitching about old code or continue to try feeling important then come to my Twitch channel and we'll see if we can solve your issue(s). Alternatively, you continue to attempt to annoy me with your walls of text that nobody reads and eventually the public will know who is in the right and who is in the wrong as I'm stepping away from this fight like a man and you're still in the corning crying about your e-peen.

&^%@#*$ you,
Joshwa534 ;)

[RoxZin xD]

I just wanted to say thank you guys, and I'm like "oh man don't end this I just made the third popcorn bowl!" :D

[inadequate]

There really is no reason to be fighting, the problem is resolved, and I am grateful for the input from both sides.

[Wovimus]

I just wanted to say thank you guys, and I'm like "oh man don't end this I just made the third popcorn bowl!" :D

+1 to popcorns! XD

[XtrmJosh]

Skipping Labels:
Walker.Stop() & Walker.Start() did absolutely nothing to help the labels from being skipped so we had to try every option possible. I'm not sure that you have any idea what you're talking about concerning the labels skipping since you haven't even experienced it yourself.

Current Issues, updating & maintenance:
I reported this to Spectrus and Syntax over Skype calls, neither of them had experienced what we were describing thus they didn't know if it was an issue on our end or an issue in Xenobot. Once we created a completely new script, where Syntax could see every bit of what was going on and it started skipping labels then yes, it flew up some flags and grabbed his attention. Yes, we knew Nick was updating Xenobot and yes, we had the patch prior to release so we could make sure it was working as it should have been. We knew there wouldn't be any reason to update scripts with any lua code and/or xbst changes because of how labels were going to be handled once the patch was released, so what exactly are you getting at? Who was the largest scripting service in December 2012 and still the fastest at updating to the new functions when Xenobot was updated the day before Christmas Eve? Have you even asked yourself why Walker.Start() and Walker.Start() aren't even needed a vast majority of labels now? If you knew what was going on over here in the real world then you would know that everything you're saying is a pointless waste of time. You complaining about old code is a waste of time, bitching that we aren't updating the old scripts when we are is just preposterous.

Everything else:
We will never ask you to be one of our testers, we aren't even remotely interested in your offer. I don't care that you don't have any characters suitable to bot in North Thais Trolls as I've mentioned plenty of times before, we're asking for feedback concerning the functionality of the new code. The fact that you lead a guild on Olympa has little to do with your argument, I lead the largest American guild on Magera - doesn't mean shit. As for your friends or guild members asking for help, I'm online 18+ hours daily, the people that need help have access to my Skype, Ventrilo, Twitch & in-game names. I don't understand how you would possibly think the following statement: "so whenever someone buys one of your scripts there is a good chance that they will talk to me as a first point of call". If I was buying scripts from 'x' scripter then I surely wouldn't expect to talk to Ben about 'x' scripter's scripts since he is not the person that created the scripts.

More bullshit I have to reply to:
As far as you being "harassed" daily from all corners of this forum.. That simply sounds like you've got some issues of your own. I don't see people creating threads "OH XTRMJOSH PLZ HELP ME!". When you cater to as many people as we do, have as many scripts available as we do and are generally enjoyed by the community as we are then yes, you will have a large amount of people using your scripts - just like we do. I wouldn't think to buy a product from someone that is purely an asshole to every living soul he meets online. But hey, go ahead and continue to feel that the community is harassing you while the truth remains that you're the one putting yourself in other people's business like its your duty because you're a guy from England that thinks he's the god of lua code and knows everything in the universe.

Enjoy you're evening and hey, if you want to continue talking shit, bitching about old code or continue to try feeling important then come to my Twitch channel and we'll see if we can solve your issue(s). Alternatively, you continue to attempt to annoy me with your walls of text that nobody reads and eventually the public will know who is in the right and who is in the wrong as I'm stepping away from this fight like a man and you're still in the corning crying about your e-peen.

&^%@#*$ you,
Joshwa534 ;)


I'm no longer interested in this conversation, you guys can post whatever you want in regards to this simpleton but I won't respond to him again, regardless of what's being said or any issues he may experience in the future. XtrmJosh Anything further may be taken up with whoever in this team still gives a fuck about what you're ranting on about but I personally will not explain myself to you again. You're beating a dead horse, move on or shut the fuck up.


I thought you'd already gone?

I do seem to recall an issue where stopping and restarting the walker was not possible, but that was a considerable time ago (at least 6 months), surely in that time you would have reviewed your scripts and done something about their shoddy state?

Bitching about you not updating old scripts when you are? Sorry, when did you last update any of the scripts? Correct me if I'm wrong here, and I have strong suspicions that you won't, but you still haven't updated the Liberty Bay Wyrms script since I bought it, and that was using the same chunk of bullshit Lua the rest of your scripts run off. So, no, you're not updating your scripts, don't try bullshit here, it's not gonna win you any brownie points.

Surely all that your paragraph about "Everything Else" demonstrates is that you're such a retard that your customers look elsewhere for help! The reason they come to me is because I am a friendly person with a wide array of skills and a good general understanding of the bot itself. If this paragraph even displayed a remote element of truth, the person who made this thread would have come to you. If he did, and you offered support, he would have obtained that support, surely, and not bothered to make the thread? Owait, you're wrong again.

People don't create threads aimed at me because I tell them to contact me on Skype. As I work as a professional software tester, I am on computers pretty much every waking hour except for the weekends when I'm out. I put myself in a situation where people come to me for support because I enjoy helping people. It may surprise you to find that actually there are people out there who get more of a buzz out of helping their fellow man than out of getting a pay cheque. If I were such an ass hole to everyone, how do you think I became the leader of Mirage? How do you think I kept the members safe from luring teams? How do you think I made the friends that I have, and how do you think that I have the contacts that I have? Bribery? Magic? Hit me. You must have some explanation... You seem to know everything else...?

My evening has been just fine so far, thanks, I'm enjoying it as I do. I'd rather not visit your twitch channel. It's far more aimed at gamers than hobbyists, and I consider myself to be a hobbyist more than anything else. I don't have the effort to invest in gaming as an interest, I'd much rather sit here and write some code, trial some programs, and do what I enjoy. The only thing the public need to know is exactly what I've been protesting about all along, and exactly what you're even accepting by the mere suggestion that your code is outdated. You clearly have a complete lack of regard for your existing script base, and even now you still continue to sell scripts which are outdated and inefficient.

[shinchan]

Surely all that your paragraph about "Everything Else" demonstrates is that you're such a retard that your customers look elsewhere for help! The reason they come to me is because I am a friendly person with a wide array of skills and a good general understanding of the bot itself. If this paragraph even displayed a remote element of truth, the person who made this thread would have come to you. If he did, and you offered support, he would have obtained that support, surely, and not bothered to make the thread? Owait, you're wrong again.

You are far from being a friendly person.

[XtrmJosh]

I just wanted to say thank you guys, and I'm like "oh man don't end this I just made the third popcorn bowl!" :D


[28/06/2013 19:17:43] Josh Griffith: you enjoying the argument today?
[28/06/2013 19:17:55] Nick Cano: which
[28/06/2013 19:19:26] Josh Griffith: me & JX
[28/06/2013 19:19:27] Josh Griffith: lol
[28/06/2013 19:19:35] Nick Cano: where
[28/06/2013 19:19:38] Nick Cano: lol
[28/06/2013 19:20:54] Josh Griffith: http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?15099-New-update-mess-with-scripts
[28/06/2013 19:20:59] Josh Griffith: It's turning into me against everyone tbh lol
[28/06/2013 19:21:44] Nick Cano: ill check it out
[28/06/2013 19:21:47] Nick Cano: but first
[28/06/2013 19:22:03] Nick Cano: i am going to go push the boundaries of our toilets
[28/06/2013 19:22:08] Nick Cano: possible voiud the warranties
[28/06/2013 19:22:10] Nick Cano: etc

Think there's a few people watching for the luls. Glad you're enjoying it :)


There really is no reason to be fighting, the problem is resolved, and I am grateful for the input from both sides.

The problem isn't solved, and it won't be solved until they do something about the scripts they are distributing. If you don't want to get involved just lay low and enjoy the ride, this is more of a debate than a fight anyway, although it does seem that the enemy can't hold an argument without resorting to personal attacks and insults.


+1 to popcorns! XD

_/ Only got rice cakes here, but they do the job :)

[XtrmJosh]

You are far from being a friendly person.

Oh and you obviously know me so well...

[Swaghetti]

So.. why is it a big deal if he have outdated code in his current scripts? All the scripts I've tried work as intended and there's no f***ing reason to update if they're revamping ALL of their scripts.

Pure logic.

[XtrmJosh]

So.. why is it a big deal if he have outdated code in his current scripts? All the scripts I've tried work as intended and there's no f***ing reason to update if they're revamping ALL of their scripts.

Pure logic.

The code he's using was made redundant some months ago, and I'm pretty certain there will be more scripts which remain untested and do not work still...

[shinchan]

Oh and you obviously know me so well...

I know enough. You're not very nice and you're a hypocrite.

[XtrmJosh]

I know enough. You're not very nice and you're a hypocrite.

A very well backed statement. Here's one about you:

You smell like the Ozbornes dog kennels, your computer is made of cheese, and you live in an upside down chimney flume attached to the side of the London eye.

Yeah, I'm not gonna go into detail about it, but it's true.

[Swaghetti]

A very well backed statement. Here's one about you:

You smell like the Ozbornes dog kennels, your computer is made of cheese, and you live in an upside down chimney flume attached to the side of the London eye.

Yeah, I'm not gonna go into detail about it, but it's true.


http://i.imgur.com/2J2yugL.jpg found your driver license bro "XtrmJosh McLovin"

[Dizix]

Is anyone else getting extremely turned on by all this?

[XtrmJosh]

http://i.imgur.com/2J2yugL.jpg found your driver license bro "XtrmJosh McLovin"

How clever, you can use MS paint almost as well as my 6 year old sister...


Is anyone else getting extremely turned on by all this?

You're not alone, my friend, you're not alone.

[Beo]

The amount of cancer in this thread...

[Dan69]

This was so enjoyable to read. Thanks

[delusion]

LOLOL

[DarkstaR]

Dont bump 1.5 year old shit.