Pilot project for bot detection?

[Evancion]

http://i.imgur.com/tHokjn5.png

The fact that they are getting somewhere and getting stronger is pretty damn scary.

[Jwlz]

Xenobot may die? :/

[sotos]

who is that craban always?? :P

[Elvang]

who is that craban always?? :P

Lead programmer for tibia.

[Evancion]

who is that craban always?? :P

He's the man behind the engine of Tibia. He's the boss.
He is likely behind the 10-12-13 massacre. He is somebody you don't wanna mess with :(

[Daniel-Sp]

http://i.imgur.com/tHokjn5.png

The fact that they are getting somewhere and getting stronger is pretty damn scary.

http://i.imgur.com/ncPykWp.jpg

[Xeromex]

http://i.imgur.com/ncPykWp.jpg

This tells everything xD

[zKad]

They're contracting GMs now, they're calling it "Mini Job". You can check Cipsoft's site... GMs will be back pretty soon and deletes will be a lot more that is now... well well fuck it....

[sotos]

Nevermind..!! Xenobot FTW :)

[Nakuu]

If GMs will be able to ban for botting then hopefully they won't delete account immediately because GM's opinion can always be biased (I guess?) :P Unless their's job will be to analyze automatic detection tool's reports etc and ban/delete accordingly to that.

[Evancion]

If GMs will be able to ban for botting then hopefully they won't delete account immediately because GM's opinion can always be biased (I guess?) :P Unless their's job will be to analyze automatic detection tool's reports etc and ban/delete accordingly to that.

Opinions won't be exactly biased, I'm sure they have to take measured precautions before officially enforcing a rule violation.
Yes, it is likely their role will only consist of analyzing automatic detection tool reports.

[Bosn]

A war is upon us lads...I will not until the day I am banned. Then I will make a new account and bot until they ip ban me..I will never stop. Because there will be that point where they will relieve the GMs in a few years and you better believe I'll be back to bot again

[TibianJoe]

A war is upon us lads...I will not until the day I am banned. Then I will make a new account and bot until they ip ban me..I will never stop. Because there will be that point where they will relieve the GMs in a few years and you better believe I'll be back to bot againYou're taking it too seriously, it's a game ._.

[Evancion]

You're taking it too seriously, it's a game ._.

http://i.imgur.com/vsjnXqE.png

Is it a game?

[Y2Quakepc2]

A war is upon us lads...I will not until the day I am banned. Then I will make a new account and bot until they ip ban me..I will never stop. Because there will be that point where they will relieve the GMs in a few years and you better believe I'll be back to bot again

im with you.
god be with us.

[TibianJoe]

http://i.imgur.com/vsjnXqE.png

Is it a game?Yes, it's still a game. What's your point?

[zKad]

If GMs will be able to ban for botting then hopefully they won't delete account immediately because GM's opinion can always be biased (I guess?) :P Unless their's job will be to analyze automatic detection tool's reports etc and ban/delete accordingly to that.


Mate what I meant was they will not be voluntary like before, CIPSOFT IS CONTRACTING THEM TO WORK AT THEIR OFFICE. Know what I'm saying?

[Evancion]

Yes, it's still a game. What's your point?

My point is that making a business out of the game is taking the game seriously.
Wouldn't you be hypocritical for making this post (http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?20482-Pilot-project-for-bot-detection&p=259302&viewfull=1#post259302)?

[smeg]

Opinions won't be exactly biased, I'm sure they have to take measured precautions before officially enforcing a rule violation.
Yes, it is likely their role will only consist of analyzing automatic detection tool reports.

I'm not sure if their role will only be about analyzing automatic detection tools. If the information is correct they are hiring 10 part time employees (most likely students or whatever) for 12 hours a week. I wouldn't be surprised if they actually go old-school-style, invisible ingame and check out potential botters.

[Polishxthunder]

http://i.imgur.com/ncPykWp.jpg

lmaoo !

[Joey]

Im a GM so I'm safe.


Sucks to be you guys though :)

[Xparn]

Well to be honest if every botter in tibia is banned and deleted, i might start play manually again xD

[dani619]

Im a GM so I'm safe.


Sucks to be you guys though :)

frii itens plix

[TibianJoe]

My point is that making a business out of the game is taking the game seriously.
Wouldn't you be hypocritical for making this post (http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?20482-Pilot-project-for-bot-detection&p=259302&viewfull=1#post259302)? It's funny calling it a "business". no, I am not hypocrite. Tibia is a game that you pay you get premium bot etc and you can make that money back by selling your account/gold. In the end, it's just a game that you pay for, waste your time for entertainment and you get some bucks back when you're done.

[desche188]

*cipbans all botters* has 10 players online.

[Madhatter]

Pfft, wont happen shit!

[Neverminder]

I say bring it on due to the sheer fact that I don't own a thing in Tibia anymore, probably 10 gp on Rookgaard and that's it. :| ... I'll just sit back, grab my popcorn and observe this final big push CipSoft has to offer. :')

[Evancion]

It's funny calling it a "business". no, I am not hypocrite. Tibia is a game that you pay you get premium bot etc and you can make that money back by selling your account/gold. In the end, it's just a game that you pay for, waste your time for entertainment and you get some bucks back when you're done.

No, you pay for premium benefits over free accounts. Tibia is not intended to be made to make money off of.
Your money going into the game is for entertainment values, not profit.

What you're doing is working to do/get something in the game, then taking that and selling it.
This is called business. I don't even know how I can explain that any simpler.

[Kociii]

http://i.imgur.com/ncPykWp.jpg

Best post here ever :D

[TibianJoe]

No, you pay for premium benefits over free accounts. Tibia is not intended to be made to make money off of.
Your money going into the game is for entertainment values, not profit.

What you're doing is working to do/get something in the game, then taking that and selling it.
This is called business. I don't even know how I can explain that any simpler.How can you tell that I am "working to get something in the game and then taking it and selling it"? Actually, I sold my ED and Gold cause I actually quit Tibia a while ago not because it's "business".
More over, you said it yourself "Tibia is not intended to be made to make money off it" which proves that Tibia is just a game.

[Evancion]

How can you tell that I am "working to get something in the game and then taking it and selling it"? Actually, I sold my ED and Gold cause I actually quit Tibia a while ago not because it's "business".
More over, you said it yourself "Tibia is not intended to be made to make money off it" which proves that Tibia is just a game.

Wow, read your last sentence and consider the argument we're currently in.

I did say "Tibia is not intended to be made to make money off it".
Correct, this means Tibia is only a game.

Now, let's refer back to your old comment which can be found HERE (http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?20482-Pilot-project-for-bot-detection&p=259302&viewfull=1#post259302).

You said "You're taking it too seriously, it's a game ._.".
Then I posted a picture of your Successful and Fail Trades, pointing out that you're being a hypocrite.

Then you later posted THIS (http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?20482-Pilot-project-for-bot-detection&p=259720&viewfull=1#post259720).
This is exactly called business.
You say you are running a business in this game, yet you're telling someone that they're taking the game seriously.


You're contradicting yourself and you're being a hypocrite.

[TibianJoe]

Wow, read your last sentence and consider the argument we're currently in.

I did say "Tibia is not intended to be made to make money off it".
Correct, this means Tibia is only a game.

Now, let's refer back to your old comment which can be found HERE (http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?20482-Pilot-project-for-bot-detection&p=259302&viewfull=1#post259302).

You said "You're taking it too seriously, it's a game ._.".
Then I posted a picture of your Successful and Fail Trades, pointing out that you're being a hypocrite.

Then you later posted THIS (http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?20482-Pilot-project-for-bot-detection&p=259720&viewfull=1#post259720).
This is exactly called business.
You say you are running a business in this game, yet you're telling someone that they're taking the game seriously.


You're contradicting yourself and you're being a hypocrite.
There isn't a single part that I contradicted myself in.

Let me just sum it all up to prove you wrong. I called Tibia a game but you disagree and believe it's not because I am making a "Business" out of it.
We can conclude that your mentality is telling that, if you sell an account you have played on for a while to make up for the money you spent so you can start fresh new or quit (like in my case) that's "business". WRONG

And just for the sake of arguing, lets imagine someone is actually making a business out of Tibia and is making money out of it. Does that suddenly turn Tibia to become anything other than a game?

[smeg]

There isn't a single part that I contradicted myself in.

Let me just sum it all up to prove you wrong. I called Tibia a game but you disagree and believe it's not because I am making a "Business" out of it.
We can conclude that your mentality is telling that, if you sell an account you have played on for a while to make up for the money you spent so you can start fresh new or quit (like in my case) that's "business". WRONG

And just for the sake of arguing, lets imagine someone is actually making a business out of Tibia and is making money out of it. Does that suddenly turn Tibia to become anything other than a game?

His point was that you said that you didn't take this game serious, but yet you were selling tibia accounts/cash for rl money. Which, in his opinion, indicates that you are taking this game seriously. Just pointing out, I'm not going to take any sides in this 'discussion' since it's pretty useless discussion IMO.