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gabbe
02-24-2014, 07:24 AM
Yo! Can I get banned on a char who I've never injected or so for transferring cash to it from botchars? If so, I'td be pretty easy to get your enemies banned (?)

Thanks,
Gabbe

Infernal Bolt
02-24-2014, 07:32 AM
I've heard people getting banned for it but I haven't confirmed it myself.

NeeP
02-24-2014, 08:03 AM
i think, yes, it can happen.
my bank char got deleted, i injected xeno by mistake 1x time for like 5-10 sec tho. So I can't say with 100%.

Yamakashi
02-24-2014, 08:15 AM
Yeah, It happend myself, but 1-2 years ago ..

tobie montana
02-24-2014, 08:29 AM
Ive been sending cash from botted chars for years, never ever been banned on any of the bank chars, i dont think this could happend...

Evancion
02-24-2014, 04:03 PM
Ive been sending cash from botted chars for years, never ever been banned on any of the bank chars, i dont think this could happend...

It's pretty common for dice bots. If you send money from your dicer to your main, your main gets deleted too. This has been happening a lot lately.
Best way to avoid this, as far as I know, is manually giving money to your main (do not use bank, trade, or parcel) using MC.

gabbe
02-24-2014, 04:15 PM
WTF... Then I can get setup? If some di(c)ebotter transfers some cash to me and he gets ban, I get banned myself. I can feel a bug in the system.

Evancion
02-24-2014, 04:21 PM
WTF... Then I can get setup? If some di(c)ebotter transfers some cash to me and he gets ban, I get banned myself. I can feel a bug in the system.

Obviously it's not as simple as that. If they notice you send a large sum of money, they will assume it's yours.
There are other factors involved too, not just sending gold.

gabbe
02-24-2014, 07:28 PM
Obviously it's not as simple as that. If they notice you send a large sum of money, they will assume it's yours.
There are other factors involved too, not just sending gold.

And how do YOU know that? ;)

raiQi
02-24-2014, 07:40 PM
And how do YOU know that? ;)
Cuz hes batman-

NeeP
02-24-2014, 07:43 PM
And how do YOU know that? ;)

cuz it is logical. It could be abused if you send 1 gp from a botted char to your enemy and cipsoft deletes them. Cipsoft is stupid but not that stupid.
maybe they dont check the amount of cash but the quantity of transactions. atleast they check for more evidence thats for sure

gabbe
02-24-2014, 07:51 PM
cuz it is logical. It could be abused if you send 1 gp from a botted char to your enemy and cipsoft deletes them. Cipsoft is stupid but not that stupid.
maybe they dont check the amount of cash but the quantity of transactions. atleast they check for more evidence thats for sure

Then ask yourselves, how? If I'm using proxys everytime I'm transferring (diff proxys) how will they know it's my char?

NeeP
02-24-2014, 11:45 PM
Then ask yourselves, how? If I'm using proxys everytime I'm transferring (diff proxys) how will they know it's my char?

well I don't believe you switch proxies everytime you relog your chars Oo and even if: cipsoft just assumes that the bot char is belonging to your main/bank char cuz you're constantly transferring huge amounts of cash in 1 direction only. In a "normal manual" tibia gameplay, I can't imagine a situation where someone transfers someone else constantly cash. Also there's probably not 1 bot char, but many. Many chars always transferring cash to 1 char.. pretty obvious when they see it :P And it seems they do see it.

gabbe
02-24-2014, 11:51 PM
well I don't believe you switch proxies everytime you relog your chars Oo and even if: cipsoft just assumes that the bot char is belonging to your main/bank char cuz you're constantly transferring huge amounts of cash in 1 direction only. In a "normal manual" tibia gameplay, I can't imagine a situation where someone transfers someone else constantly cash. Also there's probably not 1 bot char, but many. Many chars always transferring cash to 1 char.. pretty obvious when they see it :P And it seems they do see it.

Okay then..
How about I first transfer my cash to a lvl 8, then I GIVE THE CASH, NOT PARCELL / TRANSFER IT to another char, can I get deleted doing that? >.<

over the top19
02-24-2014, 11:53 PM
Easy way : Send money on parcel to ur nb char, and don't ever log on it anytime near the time u log on ur bot chars D:
and yeah i saw some people gettin banned on their banks

NeeP
02-24-2014, 11:57 PM
Okay then..
How about I first transfer my cash to a lvl 8, then I GIVE THE CASH, NOT PARCELL / TRANSFER IT to another char, can I get deleted doing that? >.<

I think that's safe, handing over items/cash is safe also from what I've heard of others because it is nearly impossible to trace the items. They have probably logs of parcel and bank transfer history and can check that but if u throw away an item and another one picks it up, that cant be tracked.

gabbe
02-24-2014, 11:59 PM
Easy way : Send money on parcel to ur nb char, and don't ever log on it anytime near the time u log on ur bot chars D:
and yeah i saw some people gettin banned on their banks

Ohh, that's not what I'm asking if I can get banned for! Thanks for the smart answer.
I'm asking if I can get banned for DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID.

jo3bingham
02-25-2014, 01:08 AM
CipSoft can track EVERYTHING that happens in-game. Every time you do something, a packet is sent to their servers.

The easiest method for them to track is bank-transfer. This is basically one simple packet. When you make a bank transfer, the server sees your name/id, subtracts the balance from your bank account, finds the receiver by name, and adds the balance to their account. Everything is done on the server.

Parcelling is probably the next easiest method to track. When you parcel something, the server knows what's in the parcel and who received it.

Doing a 'Trade with...' is another easy method for them to track. When a trade is accepted from both players, the item(s) are removed from each player and sent to the other player. Easy to track.

Now, placing an item on the ground, and another player picking it up, is trackable, but is the "hardest" method for them to track. This is the method I would suggest using. Using a depot trading area is fine.

I would also suggest using more than one or two "mules". It would be even better if you could connect to the server from separate IPs.

Koksik22
02-25-2014, 02:29 AM
Yo! Can I get banned on a char who I've never injected or so for transferring cash to it from botchars? If so, I'td be pretty easy to get your enemies banned (?)

Thanks,
Gabbe

yea you was deleted like my friend. he was deleted for supporting botter :D
i dont know but my friend 200rp was play from 1 lvl by hand and cipsfot delete him and when he ask for a reason of delete then wrote to him then for supporting botters.

gabbe
02-25-2014, 05:54 AM
yea you was deleted like my friend. he was deleted for supporting botter :D
i dont know but my friend 200rp was play from 1 lvl by hand and cipsfot delete him and when he ask for a reason of delete then wrote to him then for supporting botters.

Well, that sux. Thanks for the help, everyone! :)

Afromanz
02-25-2014, 01:28 PM
I just drop my bot chars items/cash into my mains house, less suspicious I'd like to think

Joey
02-25-2014, 01:35 PM
WTF... Then I can get setup? If some di(c)ebotter transfers some cash to me and he gets ban, I get banned myself. I can feel a bug in the system.

Most likely the dicebot and mainchar is sharing the same IP?

gabbe
02-25-2014, 02:36 PM
Most likely the dicebot and mainchar is sharing the same IP?


How about this? I'm relogging and changing IP b4 I'm transferring to the mainchar? Then changes IP again, b4 logging into the noobchar.

Joey
02-25-2014, 03:33 PM
How about this? I'm relogging and changing IP b4 I'm transferring to the mainchar? Then changes IP again, b4 logging into the noobchar.

I'd say that would make it safer anyway

ssvinto
02-25-2014, 03:53 PM
Damn, after reading this thread i can't say i feel comfortable, i'm in deep shit now xD

4 x "Would you like to transfer 2000000 to Player Name?"

over the top19
02-25-2014, 09:05 PM
Ohh, that's not what I'm asking if I can get banned for! Thanks for the smart answer.
I'm asking if I can get banned for DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID.
Don't act cool, cuz i refused to sell ya my account, I tried to help, and no you can't get banned for that unless u log on ur bank char afterwards immediately.

gabbe
02-25-2014, 10:13 PM
Don't act cool, cuz i refused to sell ya my account, I tried to help, and no you can't get banned for that unless u log on ur bank char afterwards immediately.


Can you give me the source, proof? And if we're gonna talk about your acc, I thought agreeing to like 3.75kk for a lvl 150 MS with some outfits sounded too much like a scam, that's why I wasn't intrested, but let's stay OnTopic, shall we?

over the top19
02-25-2014, 11:05 PM
Actually the price was 3.6kk and I removed you not the other way around. On the topic I have always done so, and never been banned, tho you can't prove such things i.e no one knows what does cip exactly do, but thats the way I believe you could gettin banned.

gabbe
02-26-2014, 07:09 AM
Actually the price was 3.6kk and I removed you not the other way around. On the topic I have always done so, and never been banned, tho you can't prove such things i.e no one knows what does cip exactly do, but thats the way I believe you could gettin banned.


Alright, ty.