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Wesker
07-04-2014, 06:05 PM
I was botting really with brain.
All hidden places , NEVER afk , Even I go to toilet i stoped bot and stay , when back turn on.
Proppably 0 reports , botting max 5 hrs per day. Stamina proppably never below 30h.
Everyday I changed places for example rp - Hidden Lizards , next day Choosens , next day frosts.
Cof. Cof.
Random Waypoints ?
I am fairly certain they have everyone automatically detected, they just choose to not delete them all at once.
They do selections based on several things; in-game observation, reporting, and like basienka222 said, luck of draw.
http://iseclab.org/papers/botdetection-article.pdf
basienka222
07-04-2014, 07:19 PM
No. I didnt used random waypoints.
Wesker
07-04-2014, 07:53 PM
No. I didnt used random waypoints.
Always use random waypoints, even on my newbie accounts at swamp trolls venore i got random waypoints
spnz0x
07-04-2014, 07:59 PM
Always use random waypoints, even on my newbie accounts at swamp trolls venore i got random waypoints
http://i.imgur.com/a4XDjsj.jpg
Xeno Scripts
07-04-2014, 08:49 PM
Always use random waypoints, even on my newbie accounts at swamp trolls venore i got random waypoints
This is wrong. If I every hunts manually I usually go the exact same round, it's human.
Nakuu
07-04-2014, 09:41 PM
This is wrong. If I every hunts manually I usually go the exact same round, it's human.
So do I :) Also I know plenty of 400+ accounts that doesn't use random waypoints and haven't been banned yet. Probably it's random and it's either bad or good luck ;)
Wesker
07-04-2014, 09:44 PM
This is wrong. If I every hunts manually I usually go the exact same round, it's human.
thats not true, and your wrong but then again you just dont like to read : http://iseclab.org/papers/botdetection-article.pdf
random waypoints its the safest option to bot on, on any bot
regular waypoints will get you deleted
spnz0x
Before you post anything I advise you to read and educate yourself
Xeno Scripts
07-04-2014, 10:04 PM
thats not true, and your wrong but then again you just dont like to read : http://iseclab.org/papers/botdetection-article.pdf
random waypoints its the safest option to bot on, on any bot
regular waypoints will get you deleted
spnz0x
Before you post anything I advise you to read and educate yourself
What if Tibia goes after this system but turns it around?
spnz0x
07-04-2014, 10:08 PM
thats not true, and your wrong but then again you just dont like to read : http://iseclab.org/papers/botdetection-article.pdf
random waypoints its the safest option to bot on, on any bot
regular waypoints will get you deleted
spnz0x
Before you post anything I advise you to read and educate yourself
Look, I'm smart I can post shit from internet.
http://bit.ly/1mSrpeW <<< thats how Wesker do his research
Please do us a favor \/
http://i.imgur.com/DceO1lQl.jpg
Wesker
07-04-2014, 10:11 PM
when you give me another example of server side detection that has a study and link to me the paper, then ill say you know something, but you dont, so ill just go ahead and ignore you ~ anyways all you do is post useless crap.
spnz0x
07-04-2014, 10:16 PM
when you give me another example of server side detection that has a study and link to me the paper, then ill say you know something, but you dont, so ill just go ahead and ignore you ~ anyways all you do is post useless crap.
Yes. Because you know what? I rather not talk at all than talk shit (not that I don't know anything). But one thing is fore sure, you know nothing. ~I'm out~ now go beg for attention somewhere else.
Wesker
07-04-2014, 10:17 PM
bla bla bla i dont know anything bla bla la, ill keep posting kuz bla bla bla bla
thats all you do.
spnz0x
07-04-2014, 10:19 PM
thats all you do.
"so ill just go ahead and ignore you"
Y U STILL TALK?
xiaospike
07-04-2014, 10:20 PM
Yes. Because you know what? I rather not talk at all than talk shit (not that I don't know anything). But one thing is fore sure, you know nothing. ~I'm out~ now go beg for attention somewhere else.
Don't worry about Wesker
[01/07/2014 19:36:33] Wesker Power Gamer: im pretty sure im better than anyone in this forum
Just let him live in his own World... It's probably the only World he has...
Wesker
07-04-2014, 10:24 PM
Don't worry about Wesker
[01/07/2014 19:36:33] Wesker Power Gamer: im pretty sure im better than anyone in this forum
Just let him live in his own World... It's probably the only World he has...
ill correct you
im pretty sure im the best scripter on any bot.
Wesker
07-04-2014, 10:25 PM
"so ill just go ahead and ignore you"
Y U STILL TALK?
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/talk
xiaospike
07-04-2014, 10:27 PM
ill correct you
im pretty sure im the best scripter on any bot.
Thanks for the reaffirmation of my statement. :D
Syntax
07-04-2014, 10:34 PM
ill correct you
im pretty sure im the best scripter on any bot.
the best troll, maybe.
your scripts are a joke though.
Cdongbatman
07-04-2014, 10:39 PM
Kid got level 5 in Python on Code Academy (http://www.codecademy.com/) and thinks he's the shit
Wesker
07-04-2014, 10:45 PM
Thanks for the reaffirmation of my statement. :D
Any time any day ~ that's common knowledge, it's funny that you just attack my comments, but you don't have any idea or a tiny bit of truth, I wonder why, the detecting systems on OT's are mostly spell checkers by ms, there's a few that are pretty good, sadly i dont think thats how tibia does it.
i like to say im an experienced player in tibia, more than 10 years playing never is banned, let's say that I got like 5-4 years without gm's and im pretty much safe from banns at the moment.
a few of my friends have been deleted and the only difference among us is that they bought scripts without random waypoints, and random waypoints its just a way to say it, they are not really random they go to different paths and that makes it harder to detect.
the only person that could say im wrong is DarkstaR, klusbert, Blequi , Jo3Bingham or someone on tp forums that posts hes theory and grounds for it.
from sending wrong packets to unhuman actions (frozen healing x999999), as far as I know there's nothing in the client that might point or trigger a server side detection, now if its not in the client and we can't get a grab for it might as well be a trace of the path's your walking on, this for me is the most logical reason
its not the first paper about paths http://www.eurecom.fr/fr/publication/2860/download/rs-publi-2860.pdf
But it looks better like this http://iseclab.org/papers/botdetection-article.pdf and it doesn't need to be in the client to operate a system like this, again and for the last time, if you say this isn't the way they do it, prove any other method, feel free to post it, i think everyone can benefit from a good theory.
the best troll, maybe.
your scripts are a joke though.
im not going to start a war with you, but i got 1 layout of like 800 lines, use just some of it, and yet your terramite's its running short mine its like 500 times better and i profit from it, also i died with your script, your coders implement using a sword "yeah well its a nice fix" mine is just better, ill remind you is not how the code is develop or put together is the performance, and based on that i am the best, sorry but i am.
we can test the scripts real time, same level, same equip, same amount of spears, anytime im up for a challenge, also im doing the script at the spawn not by map, so i pretty much know how its going to go and what amount of creatures ill face, this is something you might want to add to the xenomap, i think it will be better for your team overall, i also have random waypoints :)
well thats just a heads up bro.
fancy actions
Obfuscation of scripts
facy map waypoints
but you cant get my performance.
I don't need to obfuscate, don't need to create my own codes, the regular freebies are fine and working, again im up for a challenge any time.
Character Deaths
Jun 28 2014, 00:09:24 CEST Died at Level 40 by a terramite.
xiaospike
07-04-2014, 10:58 PM
Wall of text
Is that why DarkstaR uses JXScripts...?
Y2Quakepc2
07-04-2014, 11:03 PM
Is that why DarkstaR uses JXScripts...?
Jxscripts are bullshit
I tested banuta -2 by myself some time ago and it was one of the worst "prestigious" scripts i've ever tried
(in fact i didn't even buy it, i got shared lawl)
Syntax
07-04-2014, 11:04 PM
Jxscripts are bullshit
I tested banuta -2 by myself some time ago and it was one of the worst "prestigious" scripts i've ever tried
(in fact i didn't even buy it, i got shared lawl)
If you didn't buy it and got it shared then it's an old JXScripts. (before I joined)
I can see your bias though judging from your post history.
Wesker
07-04-2014, 11:07 PM
darkstar can use whatever he wants, but im pretty sure whatever he used i can do it better with more profit and higher performance.
and dont get me wrong the scripting on Syntax team its great, jon have me a lot of support running the terramites, unlike you xiaospike and theres a reason syntax and darkstar and you are all over my thread, to give me free bumps :D
again scripts made by map, they dont work, tried on neo and it was awful, to me if syntax really wants to improve it the scripting team should be able to know the respawn this is something easy for syntax to implement, you cant hunt something that you cant see, but then again thats my perspective on it.
Jxscripts are bullshit
I tested banuta -2 by myself some time ago and it was one of the worst "prestigious" scripts i've ever tried
(in fact i didn't even buy it, i got shared lawl)
theres no need to be rude about it. dont be like xiaospike have a bit of respect for the work of others. after all its work
Y2Quakepc2
07-04-2014, 11:19 PM
If you didn't buy it and got it shared then it's an old JXScripts. (before I joined)
I can see your bias though judging from your post history.
not at all, it was the same jxshits as it is now bro.
A friend of me bought banuta -2 in order to try to use it in a 350EK
he couldn't even set it up so i told him to give me his xb acc and his jx webpage acc to help him out
I did and when i tested it i just got totally dissapointed, that's why i started using solidscripts.
Also the fact that JxScripts have you in their team is just unfair and makes everything seems to be a monopoly. (i don't really think i need an explanation to this last statement as the situation is pretty obvius for those who've been here for a while)
Joshwa534
07-04-2014, 11:26 PM
Jxscripts are bullshit
I tested banuta -2 by myself some time ago and it was one of the worst "prestigious" scripts i've ever tried
(in fact i didn't even buy it, i got shared lawl)
If you didn't buy it and got it shared then it's an old JXScripts. (before I joined)
I can see your bias though judging from your post history.
Banuta -2 was only ever even built after we had Syntax in our team. Which means the only way you got a shared version was by using a cracked version of Xenobot.
As with anyone else that complained about the script, you and everyone else saw it was skipping labels. This is far from a JXScripts problem, the mage version was since pulled from our website and all sales were refunded. So, continue bitching, please.
Y2Quakepc2
07-04-2014, 11:28 PM
Banuta -2 was only ever even built after we had Syntax in our team. Which means the only way you got a shared version was by using a cracked version of Xenobot.
As with anyone else that complained about the script, you and everyone else saw it was skipping labels. This is far from a JXScripts problem, the mage version was since pulled from our website and all sales were refunded. So, continue bitching, please.
Read the post above that, biatch.
I wouldn't use a cracked version of xenobot because i really appreciate the effort nicks put on it, so you can't randomly accuse people of that
Joshwa534
07-04-2014, 11:30 PM
Read the post above that, biatch.
I don't care for your bullshit messages, paragraphs of nonsense you think matter or anything else that comes out of your mouth lol. Because of me, your got your lifetime account sold - securely. Because of me, you got discounts on scripts yet here you are talking shit.
Yes. I will accuse of you of it because it is impossible to share our scripts without a cracked version of Xenobot. God damn, you're an idiot.
EDIT:
As this will be the last post I make in a thread as ignorant as this, for the fucking record, when Wesker joined my stream - I was one of the only ones that treated him with any kind of respect instead of straight up flaming him. Seeing our name being brought up again is just getting old at this point, seriously.
Wesker
07-04-2014, 11:33 PM
Also the fact that JxScripts have you in their team is just unfair and makes everything seems to be a monopoly. (i don't really think i need an explanation to this last statement as the situation is pretty obvius for those who've been here for a while)
http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?27252-Wesker-Scripts&p=338974&viewfull=1#post338974
well Syntax just made up a rule just for me XP, even when i already consider changing it, and the rules to sell scripts are really closing up the market here, thats one of the reasons people dont want to script on xenobot, and i consider that an error, but again im no1 to vote against or with them, this is something DarkstaR needs to handle and no one else, he needs to make up rules that are within the grasp or newcomers, not senior users.
for example :
i bought xeno i sell scripts i dotn have money kuz i didnt sell anything this month, but then the rules say :You must be an active XenoBot Subscriber. then my thread will be closed, i dont get the logic around it, if im selling to not pay xeno kuz im poor, and my xeno runs out then i cant sell scripts............ well................
Your forum account must be at least 3 months old.
again against newcomers
Your free thread must have been open for at least 1 month.
why ? whats the difference no1 checks the scripts, whats the difference between 1 month user and 6 months users if no1 checks the quality of the script, or if it works o.0
theres things i dont agree with, but they dont damage me at all, wait 1 month ? its cake np. account most be 3 months old ? its cake np.
but again newcomers that might not have the money to buy xeno the next month are been blocked from earning it, that to me its just sad.
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Joshwa534
Dont fight even if the script was shit or really god (and i wouldnt now) its a bissness you look bad therefor your team looks bad, the answer is always, "sir, may i have the script to compare it, we might have some debug errors back then or sent you a wrong version of the script, if your friend contact us we can refound him we like our costumers happy sorry for the trouble"
Y2Quakepc2
Seriusly bro, arguing about their scripts, you cant win anything out of that, if its shit it is, if its not then it isnt, users are not blind, not like you will teach anything
#both of u
Misleading the topic and being just like xiaospike both of you need to grow a pair and stop bitching about the past, way out of topic, sit down and stop attacking each other jesus its like a cat fight, seriusly who would fight over a fucking script.
Y2Quakepc2
07-04-2014, 11:39 PM
I don't care for your bullshit messages, paragraphs of nonsense you think matter or anything else that comes out of your mouth lol. Because of me, your got your lifetime account sold - securely. Because of me, you got discounts on scripts yet here you are talking shit.
Yes. I will accuse of you of it because it is impossible to share our scripts without a cracked version of Xenobot. God damn, you're an idiot.
- Sorry, i forgot we live in JxWorld where nobodys opinions(aside from jxshit team) has place.
- It seems like joshwa534 is getting angry from a few nonsense words, that's pretty contradictory.
- I got my lifetime account sold to Soul thanks to you. How did this go? Soul can you confirm this?)
- I got discounts on scripts. Are you sure you're talking with the right person?
- If you share the XB account that bought the script then you eventually share the script.
God damn, i am an idiot.
DarkstaR
07-04-2014, 11:45 PM
fuck is this fucking highschool?
Y2Quakepc2
07-04-2014, 11:48 PM
fuck is this fucking highschool?
You're right. These are my last words in this forum battle.
But keep in mind.
A lannister always pays his debts
Syntax
07-04-2014, 11:50 PM
Y2Quakepc2, I'm flattered that you think I'm so good that I make us a monopoly. Honestly JXScripts had everything wrapped up before I joined. I just made them better.
Everything I've made anyone could do, if they were skilled enough. (other than Xenomap registration, but that was for the community).
I joined JXScripts because I wanted to increase the quality of scripts here.
Wesker, keep up the awesome scripts man.
Nick: we should get Mattt in here so you can participate :)
Wesker
07-04-2014, 11:52 PM
Wesker, keep up the awesome scripts man.
ty syntax u 2 <3 =*
-i love been a grown up, less drama LOL
Syntax
07-04-2014, 11:56 PM
Offtopic posts extracted from the guy's thread, continue here if you like, we don't censor.
ppgab
07-04-2014, 11:57 PM
You can't expect that a pixelart game with a 13x15 screen will have a pattern detect tool...
jo3bingham
07-05-2014, 12:03 AM
Dear God in Heaven,
Please do not let XtrmJosh see this thread.
Syntax
07-05-2014, 12:05 AM
Dear God in Heaven,
Please do not let XtrmJosh see this thread.
For a second I thought you misspelled his name, but then remembered Nick changed it, haha.
sausting
07-05-2014, 12:09 AM
when you give me another example of server side detection that has a study and link to me the paper, then ill say you know something, but you dont, so ill just go ahead and ignore you ~ anyways all you do is post useless crap.
OH THE IRONY
jo3bingham
07-05-2014, 12:13 AM
For a second I thought you misspelled his name, but then remembered Nick changed it, haha.
Haha, I think it's an 'a' on TP forums.
Wesker
07-05-2014, 12:24 AM
i think this should be closed, before josh gets here, or it's going to be hell.
And before that happens, I rather just get out of here.
I don't have the will to argue with him anymore.
I'm going to take my odds on finding the philosopher's stone, saionara.
Y2Quakepc2
07-05-2014, 12:30 AM
Y2Quakepc2, I'm flattered that you think I'm so good that I make us a monopoly. Honestly JXScripts had everything wrapped up before I joined. I just made them better.
Everything I've made anyone could do, if they were skilled enough. (other than Xenomap registration, but that was for the community).
I joined JXScripts because I wanted to increase the quality of scripts here.
Wesker, keep up the awesome scripts man.
Nick: we should get Mattt in here so you can participate :)
As i said, this is what we, old xenobot forums members, can see.
I'm talking about facts, i can assure you im not a good coder, but from my point of view there are a few things that i just can't believe, and it goes like this:
- I remember once DarkstaR posted something about a new system that would be given or sold or whatever to high quality scripters in order to protect their scripts from sharing. This was even after JxScripts had their own system, but after this i never heard anything about it again.
Quote to one of your comments:
If you didn't buy it and got it shared then it's an old JXScripts. (before I joined)
I can see your bias though judging from your post history.
- With this comment you're stating that JXScripts got their anti-share system just after you joined, which eventually means that you helped them doing it. As i said before im not an expert in coding nor i know anything about it, but... Doesn't it seems suspicious that one of the 2 main xb coders made an anti-share system for a scripting team without getting ANY KIND OF HELP? (And i'm not saying nick helped you in this, but what i think myself is that you maybe got access to some library decryption or something that made it way easier for you to accomplish it)
Well, to me it does seem suspicious, as well for other many users that have been following everything in xenobot since the very first times.
- I'm not in SolidScripts team, i don't get any cash from them to be honest, i searched for them by myself and asked them if they could sponsor my project because i can't make my scripts anymore and because i like them.
Once again, to anybody whose been here for a while, Solid Scripts owners seem to be way better people with amazing scripts that just cant compete against a Scripting Team with as many benefits as JxScripts have. I didn't even apply in that thread where you're looking for people to sponsor because i despite JxScripts, and if you ever find one post (from both Y2Quake when i used to own it and Y2Quakepc2 accounts) in which i make any kind of apology to JxScripts let me know, because i've been thinking all of this has been a monopoly for a whilee.
- In my point of view, the fact that JxScripts have all of these benefits over the others just makes the competition don't want to compete. That's why i appreciate that SolidScripts keeps rowing regardless what the circunstances are. They're the example of scripters who were made from the scratch and keep working hard and putting a lot of effort to get some dollars for their work. I talked with them a couple times and when they were saying that they do not care if people share their scripts because it is what they have (they said it in other words) i was just thinking myself: this is so unfair.
- I think all of the explained above just makes Xenobot Scripters have less motivation to keep going, and i think some of them will understand what i am saying with this post.
With all of that said, i wanna let you know that i don't really know how everything works in the background, this are just my personal thoughts from what i've seen in the past years, i just can assure you that im between the 5% of users that have been in this forum since xenobot had dash, and i talked with some of them and they agree with me in many aspects.
That's all i have to say and i don't wanna enter into a deep argumentation as all of these are just thoughts, and it represents a big effort/waste of time for me to write in a languaje that's not my native one and to keep arguing and thinking in a different languaje than mine (sorry if you don't understand some parts, it is the best i could do)
kelviner1
07-05-2014, 12:53 AM
Jxs scripts are garbage.
Spectrus
07-05-2014, 01:06 AM
Offtopic posts extracted from the guy's thread, continue here if you like, we don't censor.
We may not censor, but I see no reason that we need to foster this kind of conversation on the forum. Thread closed. Grow up people.
Wesker
07-05-2014, 01:34 AM
Jxs scripts are garbage.
for my personal experience in jxs scripts tested : dragon yala, minos yala, terramites ank
dragons yala i didnt profit, good script just didnt profit and i didnt like the path should be to the right or south instead but w/e its a freebie cant ask much
minos yalahar it was a dissaster (at leats for the level posted there) im pretty sure some1 is going to die in there or waste massive amounts of money, i dont consider that script productive at all, but its a freebie you really cant ask much from freebies
terramites for RP this script made me waste and i died now thats a terrible script, i think josh updated it and it should be better now.
Jxs scripts might not be the best scripts ever, but you cant say they are garbage if you didnt test every single one of them i tested 3 of their library and to be honest the only script of them that i consider garbage right now is terramites for rp, and the script "seems" to be updated kuz josh didnt msg me back so idk.
and if i made a public statement about any scripter i wouldnt use any of those words, they are working, they want money, and they should have respect even if they went "monopoly on the market" (that seems to be why people hate them), you cant say that a scripter has lame scripts or that hes work sucks, how would you feel if at your work they told you, you know what your work just sucks GTFO.
just to be clear im not on jxs side, this is my take on ,on any scripter ppgab knows i dont like people telling shit about any scripter, even if you hate him.
now anyone that sells low quality scripts or malfunction scripts, its not ahead of anything, and if a scripting services offers good quality scripts hes going to take the scrpting market its that easy, so you guys have anger issues against them or your just no as good and cant take their costumers, think about it.
me im just a guy that scripts and doesnt obfuscate kuz YOLO.
btw theres a difference between fucking with someone else work and constructive criticism and i post on their thread everything on my feedbacks if they change it or not its not on me.
btw you didnt close the thread Spectrus
-- also i do have some issues with some of their fanboys but thats not on them.
fanboys, when will they stop :/
Syntax
07-05-2014, 01:44 AM
Closed for realz.
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