Self.Balance()

[cwirek91]

This function would help making full afk scripts easier. We would know how much gold our characters earn. We could transfer money to bankier much easier. It's very useful with dice script too. It's very important method.

[ppgab]

This function would help making full afk scripts easier. We would know how much gold our characters earn. We could transfer money to bankier much easier. It's very useful with dice script too. It's very important method.

it's possible to do with a little knowledge :p

[hakujewas]

it's possible to do with a little knowledge :p

Could you share your knowledge? :)

I don't want to count gold in all my containers. NPC proxy would be perfect!

[ppgab]

Could you share your knowledge? :)

I don't want to count gold in all my containers. NPC proxy would be perfect!

Self.Money() counts your visible money

There's a NPC proxy, i'm still not 100% sure how to use it but basically you use string.match(txt, "%d+) to extract the number of the npc string, if i found out how to use i'll post here

edit: welp, read below

[DarkstaR]

There's actually no NPC proxy yet

[Fatality]

DarkstaR will there be a NPC proxy implemented?

[DarkstaR]

I'll probably add Self.Balance() natively and do all of the parsing internally.

[ppgab]

I'll probably add Self.Balance() natively and do all of the parsing internally.

aff cmon, imagine the possibilities with npc proxy

[DarkstaR]

aff cmon, imagine the possibilities with npc proxy


Possibilities which are too dangerous. Look what Colte did with his dicer, and imagine if he could see full balance. I need to add limitations first

[ppgab]

Yeah you need to add a way to see world too huehueuheue

[godot]

yeee waiting for Self.Balance() !

[godot]

I'll probably add Self.Balance() natively and do all of the parsing internally.

DarkstaR

plss when

[Fend]

Until there is a solution, just add a balance variable to your script and enter it before you run. Subtract/add as you operate. Not optimal, but it is functional.

[cwirek91]

@DarkstaR (http://forums.xenobot.net/member.php?u=2)

balance = &45E8E0;

[Syntax]

Possibilities which are too dangerous. Look what Colte did with his dicer, and imagine if he could see full balance. I need to add limitations first

If him seeing the full balance is the concern, how is Self.Balance safer than NPC proxy?

[Chuitox]

@DarkstaR (http://forums.xenobot.net/member.php?u=2)

balance = &45E8E0;

0x575446

;)

[HjugO]

balance from market option? husaheuhuehue

[godot]

husaheuhuehue bump

[cwirek91]

bump?

[maroxy]

Please dont bump this thread.

DarkstaR already nows about that.

Thanks

[hakujewas]

Ok, I will not bump this thread.

[cwirek91]

Come on just make Self.Balance(). That is few minute for you DarkstaR. We can not make full afk scripts without balance & market

[maroxy]

You can do:


elseif (labelName == "CheckWithdraw") then
Walker.Stop()

if Self.Money() < maxAmount then
os.exit()
else
print("Enough Balance, continuing...")
end

Walker.Start()

Self.Money counts the coins you have and math it by his value, similar to Self.Balance()

Stop spamming plx

[RoxZin xD]

You can do:


elseif (labelName == "CheckWithdraw") then
Walker.Stop()

if Self.Money() < maxAmount then
io.exit()
else
print("Enough Balance, continuing...")
end

Walker.Start()

Self.Money counts the coins you have and math it by his value, similar to Self.Balance()

Stop spamming plx

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Self.Money() count what you got on you? To check balance value is a completely different thing :p

[maroxy]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Self.Money() count what you got on you? To check balance value is a completely different thing :p

This label must be after the withdraw one

[hakujewas]

Self.Money() doesn't count gold in nested backpacks. Of course one could go through all bps and count all money, but it is much better and simplier to use Self.Balance . And if we want to check if we have enough money to withdraw, we are force to map starting balance of all characters and then count gold in nested backpacks and play with adding/substrackting and writing that value to file.

[Chuitox]

Well... there is still a way to do it. You can try to withdraw 10k several times until the money you have in your containers doesn't change. Then you can repeat the procedure with platinums and gold coins. Sounds insane but hey you still got a solution :D

[maroxy]

elseif (labelName == "DepositGold") then
Walker.Stop()
Self.SayToNpc({"hi", "deposit all", "yes"}, 100)

local withdrawManas = math.max(_MaxManas - Self.ItemCount(_ManaPotionID), 0)*_ManaCost
local withdrawThunders = math.max(_MaxThunders - Self.ItemCount(_ThundersID), 0)*_ThundersCost
local total = math.abs(withdrawManas + withdrawThunders)

if total >= 1 then
Self.SayToNpc({"withdraw " .. total, "yes", "balance"}, 100)
end

local monny = math.max(Self.ItemCount(3031) + (Self.ItemCount(3035) * 100) + (Self.ItemCount(3043) * 10000))

if monny < total then
os.exit()
else
print("Enough Balance")
end
Walker.Start()

local monny = math.max(Self.ItemCount(3031) + (Self.ItemCount(3035) * 100) + (Self.ItemCount(3043) * 10000))

if monny < total then
os.exit()
else
print("Enough Balance")
end

Did it naaps, enjoy!

[hakujewas]

It won't work.

[maroxy]

It won't work.

For me, yes.

Be sure your "total" value is asigned.

[RoxZin xD]

This label must be after the withdraw one

yeah, I know. But then, you wanna do a safe bank script. For x reasons you can fail withdrawing while still having money on bank, and then while u fail to withdraw you got an action to close bot if you didn't withdraw correctly. Boom, epic fail.
You see, this is why XenoBot isn't the biggest bot, always people coming up with 'solutions' that aren't the real solution for it.

[maroxy]

yeah, I know. But then, you wanna do a safe bank script. For x reasons you can fail withdrawing while still having money on bank, and then while u fail to withdraw you got an action to close bot if you didn't withdraw correctly. Boom, epic fail.
You see, this is why XenoBot isn't the biggest bot, always people coming up with 'solutions' that aren't the real solution for it.

And, Why you dont try sir?

You talk so much but I dont see your help.

EDIT:

You can add this:

if Self.Position(x, z, y) then
Walker.Goto("DepositGold")
else
Walker.Goto("BeforeDeposit")
end

Rekt.

[Stusse]

yeah, I know. But then, you wanna do a safe bank script. For x reasons you can fail withdrawing while still having money on bank, and then while u fail to withdraw you got an action to close bot if you didn't withdraw correctly. Boom, epic fail.
You see, this is why XenoBot isn't the biggest bot, always people coming up with 'solutions' that aren't the real solution for it.
I don't really see the big issue here...

Pretty simple to see wether you've talked to Bank NPC or not. Same with if you fail to withdraw a couple of times it might be rectified to close the bot. Instead of having a NPC proxy that makes it possible for people to empty your whole bank-roll in a simple obfuscated script.

/Stusse

[Syntax]

I don't really see the big issue here...

Pretty simple to see wether you've talked to Bank NPC or not. Same with if you fail to withdraw a couple of times it might be rectified to close the bot. Instead of having a NPC proxy that makes it possible for people to empty your whole bank-roll in a simple obfuscated script.

/Stusse

You can empty someone's bank roll today... NPC proxy won't help or hurt in that matter.
I'd rather have NPC proxy than Self.Balance as it's obviously more versatile and allows specific error handling.

Right now you can detect if something went wrong and retry X times, but that's the limit.
With NPC proxy you could tell exactly what went wrong and how to correct the problem, or alert the user if you can't.

If someone is pushing you, you could start a trasher or constantly step back to your position.
If you have low funds, you can alert the user.
If you haven't completed a quest you can alert the user / find an alternate route

Specific error handling is a must for advanced scripts, obviously common scripters don't need this, but some of us do.
Of all the feature requests, this is the one I want the most.

[hakujewas]

If I am not mistaken 'Self.ItemCount(3031)' or 'Self.Money()' does not count money that is in nested containers (which are closed).

[Joshwa534]

You can add this:

if Self.Position(x, z, y) then
Walker.Goto("DepositGold")
else
Walker.Goto("BeforeDeposit")
end

Rekt.

(My post below is not relevant to this thread.)

Additionally, you can do:

Walker.ConditionalGoto((Self.DistanceFromPosition( x, y, z) <= 1), 'DepositGold', 'BeforeDeposit')

Also, your y & z coordinates were in the wrong locations. I hope these isn't seen as an offensive post but rather one that you, and whoever else sees it, can learn from. I like seeing Walker.ConditionalGoto being used instead of the method you posted, its less code and pretty simplified. :)

[maroxy]

(My post below is not relevant to this thread.)

Additionally, you can do:

Walker.ConditionalGoto((Self.DistanceFromPosition( x, y, z) <= 1), 'DepositGold', 'BeforeDeposit')

Also, your y & z coordinates were in the wrong locations. I hope these isn't seen as an offensive post but rather one that you, and whoever else sees it, can learn from. I like seeing Walker.ConditionalGoto being used instead of the method you posted, its less code and pretty simplified. :)

I usually use it, with checkers etc. Thanks for your post :p

[RoxZin xD]

And, Why you dont try sir?

You talk so much but I dont see your help.

EDIT:

You can add this:

if Self.Position(x, z, y) then
Walker.Goto("DepositGold")
else
Walker.Goto("BeforeDeposit")
end

Rekt.

Dude, stop. Seriously. What does a position checker offers to a safe bank script? Not really much, you didn't get my point but whatever. You want me to help? Sure. This would've helped a lot more, if it was possible.

local minBankAmount = 10000 --example of gold on your bank to stop botting

if Self.Balance() < minBankAmount then
Walker.Stop()
end

Or another one, to read the NPC message ('There is not enough gold on your account.') and stop bot whenever a NPC says that.

I'll show another example below of why a variable to return your bank balance is useful too.


I don't really see the big issue here...

Pretty simple to see wether you've talked to Bank NPC or not. Same with if you fail to withdraw a couple of times it might be rectified to close the bot. Instead of having a NPC proxy that makes it possible for people to empty your whole bank-roll in a simple obfuscated script.

/Stusse

Well if you talk about cleaning someone's bank I'm sure I can obfuscate a code to deposit all gold, then keep withdrawing 10k until there's no more money, store the amount when it gets static, deposit all back and transfer that amount to my character. Won't take much to get cleaned. Also, to read NPC messages is a must. In fact, all kind of messages are a must. The only one that Darkstar did a great job on it was the orange message, no other bot can read it, but what about the others?

A function to check your balance helps not only on bank, but on market functions also. Oh wait, XenoBot doesn't have these too, but even if it was available, you would need to check your balance before buying x item or making a market offer for y item.

Once again, this bothers me much, lack of creativity not only from Darkstar to make his bot better and the users that got used to having so few functions/variables and having to deal with them or not knowing the power of different functions/variables.

Edit:


You can empty someone's bank roll today... NPC proxy won't help or hurt in that matter.
I'd rather have NPC proxy than Self.Balance as it's obviously more versatile and allows specific error handling.

Right now you can detect if something went wrong and retry X times, but that's the limit.
With NPC proxy you could tell exactly what went wrong and how to correct the problem, or alert the user if you can't.

If someone is pushing you, you could start a trasher or constantly step back to your position.
If you have low funds, you can alert the user.
If you haven't completed a quest you can alert the user / find an alternate route

Specific error handling is a must for advanced scripts, obviously common scripters don't need this, but some of us do.
Of all the feature requests, this is the one I want the most.

/\ THIS. Thanks, Syntax.

[Chuitox]

Dude, stop. Seriously. What does a position checker offers to a safe bank script? Not really much, you didn't get my point but whatever. You want me to help? Sure. This would've helped a lot more, if it was possible.

local minBankAmount = 10000 --example of gold on your bank to stop botting

if Self.Balance() < minBankAmount then
Walker.Stop()
end

Or another one, to read the NPC message ('There is not enough gold on your account.') and stop bot whenever a NPC says that.

I'll show another example below of why a variable to return your bank balance is useful too.



Well if you talk about cleaning someone's bank I'm sure I can obfuscate a code to deposit all gold, then keep withdrawing 10k until there's no more money, store the amount when it gets static, deposit all back and transfer that amount to my character. Won't take much to get cleaned. Also, to read NPC messages is a must. In fact, all kind of messages are a must. The only one that Darkstar did a great job on it was the orange message, no other bot can read it, but what about the others?

A function to check your balance helps not only on bank, but on market functions also. Oh wait, XenoBot doesn't have these too, but even if it was available, you would need to check your balance before buying x item or making a market offer for y item.

Once again, this bothers me much, lack of creativity not only from Darkstar to make his bot better and the users that got used to having so few functions/variables and having to deal with them or not knowing the power of different functions/variables.

Edit:



/\ THIS. Thanks, Syntax.

Not my problem actually but you gotta understand something. Xenobot is not for the lazy one. There were plenty of functions lacking in many of the previous versions but no dedicated scripter went all fuzzy. I do agree and I have said many times that Xenobot lacks stuff that other bots have. You must be really into this thing if you want things to be done your way. Advanced spell casters, several checks, performance issues, tracking creatures and a long list of things that have been fixed after every new version.

I have lived for years now with a simple check in banks and waiting patiently for new functions. It's more like... Really if you don't like the way it works you just migrate to another bot :p

If you have more ideas you should post them here (http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?25302-Suggestions) Unless you have already done that

[godot]

NPC Proxy or we riot ;)

[cwirek91]

bump Self.Balance()

[cwirek91]

bump.

[godot]

We need Self.Balance() for our safety, look what will happen due world change - bank robbery in venore or thais :D spaming hi deposit all few hours is like ban ban plx

[pixie_frigo]

We need Self.Balance() for our safety, look what will happen due world change - bank robbery in venore or thais :D spaming hi deposit all few hours is like ban ban plx

lol if you dont have shitty script it will stop after 2-3 times and just go training -_-

[godot]

lol if you dont have shitty script it will stop after 2-3 times and just go training -_-

yee so like 90% of free scripts and like 70(?)% are 'shitty'

[DarkstaR]

Bumping the thread 50 times a week wont change my opinion on adding it. From here on out, every bump is treated as spam.

[Spectrus]

Bump... :(

[ppgab]

Bump... :(

power abuse much, i call for an impeachment

[Hypn0ticKi11er]

power abuse much, i call for an impeachment

I second that motion.

[Joshwa534]

We need Self.Balance() for our safety, look what will happen due world change - bank robbery in venore or thais :D spaming hi deposit all few hours is like ban ban plx

I don't play free account so I'm unaware, are you even able to check your balance at the bank while the bank robbery world change is active?

Here's really shitty model of what you can do:

tries = 5
repeat
-- bank code
tries = tries - 1
until tries <= 0 or Self.Money() >= neededCash
if Self.Money() < neededCash then
os.exit() -- or Walker.Goto('offlineTraining')
end


No offense to this thread but Self.Balance() is not and will not ever be needed, lol.

[pixie_frigo]

yee so like 90% of free scripts and like 70(?)% are 'shitty'

yes.


(too short so ill repeat :yes.)

[hakujewas]

We need change XenoLazyDarkstaRBot to WindRoxBot. It has all features to make(to making sie nie pisze nobie) FULL AFK scripts including balance and market.

[Daniel-Sp]

We need change XenoLazyDarkstaRBot to WindRoxBot. It has all features to make(to making sie nie pisze nobie) FULL AFK scripts including balance and market.

IF you already have an alternative, why the hell are you still here ? It makes no sense.

[hakujewas]

Really wanna know? crack & no time for change my own scripts.

[HjugO]

Really wanna know? crack & no time for change my own scripts.

WindBot is also crackable, just VMProtect unpacker, and brain. But XenoBot is the best unofficial software to play, just look at cpu, ram usage without any "other addons". I don't care that we can't use NPC Proxy, DarkstaR wrote that this "feautre" is useless, if you want to convert XenoBot > WindBot scripts then write conventer in python, I have Walker Conventer from WindBot to XenoBot.

[Daniel-Sp]

Really wanna know? crack & no time for change my own scripts.

Both bots are crackable and c'mon. You call a developer lazy and you dont have 6 bucks/month to pay for any of them ( wind or xeno ) ?

Thats insane.

[hakujewas]

I can pay for good job. DarkstaR is not doing that. Lucas Terra is doing great job. He is making bot for money and all features which people want he is doing. For that i can pay. Not for making bot for fun without two important stuff.

[godot]

So no hope for must-have feature needed for effectively gold farming

http://th01.deviantart.net/fs70/200H/i/2012/319/7/6/nothing_to_do_here_gif_by_cartoonzack-d5l4eqj.jpg

[DarkstaR]

I can pay for good job. DarkstaR is not doing that. Lucas Terra is doing great job. He is making bot for money and all features which people want he is doing. For that i can pay. Not for making bot for fun without two important stuff.

That's the difference. Some features are unsafe and can be used to scam, or even create bans. You can say that he is better because he adds them, I don't care. The reason that I don't, though, is because I wont implement something that I think can have very bad side effects. That may cost me some business, but at least the business I do have can sleep easy knowing their bot provider actually gives a fuck about them.

[hakujewas]

That's the difference. Some features are unsafe and can be used to scam, or even create bans. You can say that he is better because he adds them, I don't care. The reason that I don't, though, is because I wont implement something that I think can have very bad side effects. That may cost me some business, but at least the business I do have can sleep easy knowing their bot provider actually gives a fuck about them.

Okay I understand, but for who this features (balance and market) is unsafe? For people which use foreign scripts without brain? I am using own scripts and why me and other people must suffer. We cant make full afk scripts without that.

PS. Method Self.Say() is safe...? Random Self.Say('Fuck you' + closest-creature-name) in obfuscated script is possible, so is that safe?

[DarkstaR]

Okay I understand, but for who this features (balance and market) is unsafe? For people which use foreign scripts without brain? I am using own scripts and why me and other people must suffer. We cant make full afk scripts without that.

PS. Method Self.Say() is safe...? Random Self.Say('Fuck you' + closest-creature-name) in obfuscated script is possible, so is that safe?

"Self.Say('Fuck you' + closest-creature-name)" gives nobody profit, so there's less reason to do it. Being able to check balance and/or buy things on market makes it possible for scammers embed things in their scripts to transfer money much easier than now.

We've seen it happen in a dicer script in the past. Since dicers often carry much money and stay afk in depo, it was easy for the attacker to approach ones using his script and cash out. With a way to detect current balance in bank, it would be a matter of brute-forcing world names to send a users entire bank balance. Even worse with market, it could just check if there was, for instance, a label being sold by the attacker at 198745 gold and buy that label.

[hakujewas]

That's the difference. Some features are unsafe and can be used to scam, or even create bans. You can say that he is better because he adds them, I don't care. The reason that I don't, though, is because I wont implement something that I think can have very bad side effects. That may cost me some business, but at least the business I do have can sleep easy knowing their bot provider actually gives a fuck about them.


"Self.Say('Fuck you' + closest-creature-name)" gives nobody profit, so there's less reason to do it. Being able to check balance and/or buy things on market makes it possible for scammers embed things in their scripts to transfer money much easier than now.

We've seen it happen in a dicer script in the past. Since dicers often carry much money and stay afk in depo, it was easy for the attacker to approach ones using his script and cash out. With a way to detect current balance in bank, it would be a matter of brute-forcing world names to send a users entire bank balance. Even worse with market, it could just check if there was, for instance, a label being sold by the attacker at 198745 gold and buy that label.

You can make random Self.Say('Fuck you' + closest-creature-name) and you can get ban.
You can make random Self.SayToNpc() with decreasing amount of gold and transfer gold to other character.

Is it really safe?

Okay, so I have last question. Do you release balance and market in the near future or not? People want know answer to that question too. Many people want make own script full afk and if you do not release new version of xenobot you will lose people. You are making bugfix all the time. Nothing new features. XenoBot is great bot but it needs these features to be AWESOME.

[martinpwnage]

What is this guy talking about lel? We can make full afk script and no people won't leave xenobot because its better then windshit

[hakujewas]

What is this guy talking about lel? We can make full afk script and no people won't leave xenobot because its better then windshit

If for you full afk scripts means: withdraw gold -> buy potions -> go hunt -> hunt -> sell items to NPC -> deposit gold. Good luck. If you do not know about full afk nothing please shut the fuck up. If you have something to say about WindBot you should use it first.

[Joshwa534]

If for you full afk scripts means: withdraw gold -> buy potions -> go hunt -> hunt -> sell items to NPC -> deposit gold. Good luck. If you do not know about full afk nothing please shut the fuck up. If you have something to say about WindBot you should use it first.

You're looking at how shiny the chrome is and thinking 'damn that's a great car' but you don't even consider the engine, handling & fuel efficiency.

I have confidence that I'm not going to get deleted simply because someone forgot to slow things down or didn't know that he was sending a trillion packets to the server saying 'hey look at my bot'. This isn't an argument about Windbot or Xenobot, I'm talking about any bot. Some people do things too fast, some people create a shitty bot because they learned C++ in a 90 minute YouTube video and some people don't have anything else on their mind besides money.

Obviously there is a reason why you're using XenoBot though, I just can't believe anyone that says they can't afford paying monthly for a bot when they're only $5-$10/mo depending on which one they're using.

[Relius]

Terrible news for me. The only thing I miss in XenoBot are market functions. I love market, imo the best way to gain cash. I don't understand one thing though: there are tons of ways to steal cash from people using the current functions, yet they aren't forbidden. Still, I can understand your decision DarkstaR. There are morons everywhere and u are doing everything u can to not let them hurt themselves. I have cried a river and now I need to build a bridge to get over it.

[DarkstaR]

NPC Proxy MAY come in the future, but market probably will not.

[astrio123]

Add npc proxy, create a "approve script" team, let them go threw every new script, say hello to more members and less scams threw scripts.

[Glowingstick]

NPC Proxy MAY come in the future, but market probably will not.

Is there any reason to why market wont come? Is it more detectable, will more scams occur or is it hard to code?

[DarkstaR]

Is there any reason to why market wont come? Is it more detectable, will more scams occur or is it hard to code?

A mix of many reasons:


It's hard to ensure that users aren't using it in a malicious way.
It's even harder to secure it so people don't get banned.
It's not hard to code, but it's hard to maintain. Testing the stability of something as complex as the market will take twice as long as my normal update tests, and will require 5 or 6 new addresses to maintain every update.


All of these things considered, it's one of those things that I'd rather not do.

[godot]

http://catmacros.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/sup.jpg

[omerhochman]

Where can I read about what Colte did?