Tibia turning to pay2play?

[Pinnicle]

ew products are available via the payment system!

In the Extra Services section, you can now also buy an "Express Character World Transfer". This service may be of interest to you if you recently transferred your character to another world but would like to move it again without having to wait six months.
An express character world transfer can be used immediately, regardless of when your last world transfer took place. That is the reason why this service is more expensive than a normal character world transfer.
Please note that besides this noticeable difference, all other restrictions and requirements of normal transfers also apply to express character world transfers.

If you would like to treat one of your characters to a new devoted travelling companion, check out the new section Mounts in the payment system. There, you can find a colourful selection of extravagant mounts at different prices.
Accompanied by a majestic desert king, you will make a grand entrance wherever you go. Charge into battle on a fierce jade pincer, stand your ground on a massive platesaurian, or terrify your enemies and unleash chaos astride a blazing nethersteed.

At the moment, 12 different mounts are exclusively available via the payment system. So make sure to have a look if you are interested in complementing your character's appearance with one of them.
Once bought and assigned to one of your characters, you can ride it ingame whenever you want, no matter if you are a free account or a premium account.

If you would like to know more about purchasable services and stuff we may offer in the future, please take a closer look at the additional information we have provided in the Auditorium.

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Here are a few examples to give you a better idea of what to expect and what not:

We do not plan to offer buyable vouchers for experience/skill boosts or equipment that alters your stats or power. (Please note, though, that all mounts, both those you can obtain ingame and those you can buy for money, come along with a small speed boost.)
Further cosmetic stuff such as outfits or mounts will become available to buy in the future.
It may be possible that we offer the possibility to buy consumable resources such as potions or blessings, for example, which would be delivered to your inbox.
Some of the benefits that are currently bound to premium status and which you use while actually playing may be offered separately for a small amount of money. However, premium time will remain the best deal to get the overall package. Also, we do not plan to offer premium features such as offline training or housing separately.


ggwp

[sausting]

they should just start selling voucher, in lower levels its more important than premium status and 100+ it'd be a waste to play without both if possible!

[raiQi]

"omg game is dead now, cipsoft gave up on tibia"
ppl been saying that since 2000 lol.

[Arrow]

"omg game is dead now, cipsoft gave up on tibia"
ppl been saying that since 2000 lol.

And it's getting worse and worse really. Online count dropping again every year. Count away multi clients and how many people would be there then?

I don't get it. If people aren't interested in buying premium and giving them profit, why the hell would people throw away cash on a fucking mount lol

[Pinnicle]

I still play Tibia and I enjoy it but the only cash I've spent on it is a world transfer and name change in about 4 years

[raiQi]

And it's getting worse and worse really. Online count dropping again every year. Count away multi clients and how many people would be there then?

I don't get it. If people aren't interested in buying premium and giving them profit, why the hell would people throw away cash on a fucking mount lol
People will buy the mounts, be so sure.

[DarkstaR]

if they start selling vouchers i will call their office irl and tell them how fucking stupid they are

[Jakob Miller]

I don't like this pattern either, but lets face it, so far there is no pay to win aspect about it.

I purchased a mount. Why? Because it looks fancy as **** and as a streamer, I like peoples reactions ;) It's worth 30 euro for sure!

But ye, if voucher is getting buyable, I would probably quit playing!

[Roarz]

I still play Tibia and I enjoy it but the only cash I've spent on it is a world transfer and name change in about 4 years

You forgot to add the costs of electricity, internet and leisure.

[Pinnicle]

You forgot to add the costs of electricity, internet and time.
because that money goes to cipsoft?

[Haybird]

"omg game is dead now, cipsoft gave up on tibia"
ppl been saying that since 2000 lol.

With updates like these (Massives kicks, characters dying, items disappearing) its only expected. :P

[Pinnicle]

With updates like these (Massives kicks, characters dying, items disappearing) its only expected. :P
How are items disappearing?
I'll continue to play. But like most people, if vouchers were purchaseable, I'd leave.

[raiQi]

How are items disappearing?
I'll continue to play. But like most people, if vouchers were purchaseable, I'd leave.
My ferumbras hat disappeared. All I was left with was this lousy leather helmet.:mad:

[Pretty Reckless]

Face the facts, the only people who will dislike this is us, the old players.
New players who come along will like, i guarantee it.

[Pinnicle]

Face the facts, the only people who will dislike this is us, the old players.
New players who come along will like, i guarantee it.

To be honest, I've seen alot more new players recently. Well, like 5.
I don't think people will leave, unless vouchers are sold.

[Haybird]

How are items disappearing?
I'll continue to play. But like most people, if vouchers were purchaseable, I'd leave.

After this update alot of people have found that the items in their houses are gone.

[Pretty Reckless]

To be honest, I've seen alot more new players recently. Well, like 5.
I don't think people will leave, unless vouchers are sold.

Ofcourse, i'd leave aswell if vouchers get sellable, but that won't happen, im positive.
Actually, i like this aslong as they keep it to outfits and mounts that are not obtainable in-game.

[Pinnicle]

After this update alot of people have found that the items in their houses are gone.

Oh wow.

[Haybird]

Oh wow.

Yeah, its just a clusterfuck of things going wrong right now. lol
Apparently some people are trapped at the place where the last event was taking place.
They're surrounded by lava and can't move 1Sqm in any direction.
ALL of that plus this? Man... just a big shit storm on their forums.

[Pretty Reckless]

Lol, maybe they changed the XYZ of the map so that no scripts will work!

[maroxy]

Jul 22 2014 -
Due to unexpected technical problems we have to take all game worlds offline. We will inform you once the problems are fixed. We are sorry for any inconveniences.

Maybe "Pay to win"

[martinpwnage]

if they start selling vouchers i will call their office irl and tell them how fucking stupid they are

:D do it please

[IronGatey]

well guys alot of players are leaving tibia.. game like this must not dissapear. i think we have to share tibia to others and when tibia would get more players would cipsoft care more about it cuz they are pretty greedy as we all see it. i cat belive that cipsoft puts 0 on sharing tibia. its so fucking good game.

[martinpwnage]

well guys alot of players are leaving tibia.. game like this must not dissapear. i think we have to share tibia to others and when tibia would get more players would cipsoft care more about it cuz they are pretty greedy as we all see it. i cat belive that cipsoft puts 0 on sharing tibia. its so fucking good game.

it was a good game*

[Evancion]

Honestly, I don't mind mounts and outfits, the only people who are screwed are the collectors. However, there is a discussion about CipSoft adding in-game scrolls for certain products, such as mounts and outfits. This would allow collectors to spend millions on them.

[Daniel-Sp]

if they start selling vouchers i will call their office irl and tell them how fucking stupid they are

Welcome to my sign.

You can do at least a vid recording this call when it happens.

[Zippowl]

Once bought and assigned to one of your characters, you can ride it ingame whenever you want, no matter if you are a free account or a premium account.


those new mounts even facc players/payers will be able to use ^^

[Fleet]

As long as they only sell mounts and other useless shit that only affect your appearance in-game I see no harm in it. People will buy it, and CiPSoft will get more cashflow.
I hardly think they'll ever sell anything that'd dramatically boost your in-game stats, such as vouchers etc.

[Evancion]

Once bought and assigned to one of your characters, you can ride it ingame whenever you want, no matter if you are a free account or a premium account.


those new mounts even facc players/payers will be able to use ^^

Lol what's the fun in that when being free-account is practically unplayable anyways?

[Evancion]

As long as they only sell mounts and other useless shit that only affect your appearance in-game I see no harm in it. People will buy it, and CiPSoft will get more cashflow.
I hardly think they'll ever sell anything that'd dramatically boost your in-game stats, such as vouchers etc.

They have said they have no plans in selling vouchers or any other items that give benefits.
The only things they're selling is mounts and outfits right now.

How ever, they did give themselves a cushion to sit on:
We can assure you that we are quite firm in our current stance regarding
the rejection of further services that grant noticeable gameplay benefits and
it is unlikely to change in the next few years.

Other than that, I seriously think people are overreacting.

[Zippowl]

you can think that, but i still know ppl that w8 his premmy to run off to train facc, theres not much ppl that do that, be there are still

[Pinnicle]

Lol what's the fun in that when being free-account is practically unplayable anyways?

I don't agree, I think the only vocations that are unplayable are mages.

[Fleet]

They have said they have no plans in selling vouchers or any other items that give benefits.
The only things they're selling is mounts and outfits right now.


This, I know. And my point was exactly that people are overreacting.
Buying anything in-game that only effects your looks will hardly make the game unbalanced, and everyone can get the exact same mount/item so they will not be rare either.

Whenever I see someone with a bought mount in-game I'll only be looking at a sucker.

[Evancion]

I'll be honest though, this mount is pretty damn sick and it's the closest thing I'll buy.

https://a248.e.akamai.net/cipsoft.download.akamai.com/118500/tibia/static.tibia.com/images/payment/serviceid_154_animation_1.gif

[CaptainReynolds]

Tibia has always been set up very poorly as a free to play, and has gotten exceedingly worse since I last played, all while completely ignoring other FTP games that do it absolutely perfectly and don't actually give advantages to paying players while still being very successful (Path of Exile). Premium should just be for houses, more depot space, outfits, and extra mounts, etc. If they actually offered a full product to free players they'd probably have a larger base out there to potentially buy premium (not considering the fact that most players are bots because that's another problem).

Giving way more hunting spots that give double the EXP, almost every good spell that can only be used by premium, can't even get to over half the world, have to spend hundreds of hours to train skills that premium players get by simply logging off, is frankly a joke. Don't even get me started on buying premium scrolls.. the people in here saying that it's not pay to win because you can't buy items couldn't be more wrong. You can straight up buy 1.7 mil gold officially from CIP. It's good for botters with tons of accounts, but it's a terrible practice.

There are lots of FTP games out there that do it perfectly -- Tibia is completely awful by comparison.

[Arrow]

Tibia has always been set up very poorly as a free to play, and has gotten exceedingly worse since I last played, all while completely ignoring other FTP games that do it absolutely perfectly and don't actually give advantages to paying players while still being very successful (Path of Exile). Premium should just be for houses, more depot space, outfits, and extra mounts, etc. If they actually offered a full product to free players they'd probably have a larger base out there to potentially buy premium (not considering the fact that most players are bots because that's another problem).

Giving way more hunting spots that give double the EXP, almost every good spell that can only be used by premium, can't even get to over half the world, have to spend hundreds of hours to train skills that premium players get by simply logging off, is frankly a joke. Don't even get me started on buying premium scrolls.. the people in here saying that it's not pay to win because you can't buy items couldn't be more wrong. You can straight up buy 1.7 mil gold officially from CIP. It's good for botters with tons of accounts, but it's a terrible practice.

There are lots of FTP games out there that do it perfectly -- Tibia is completely awful by comparison.

Great post

[jayenomics]

Please, they are constantly adding free account content. For my $11~ a month, I want something extra.

[Sam]

I wonder if I can pay to become a GM..

[sausting]

I wonder if I can pay to become a GM..

I don't wonder about such things

[Gordo]

and the funny thing is that i will probably buy that sexy black/red scorpion........ even tho i dont want to.

[Elvang]

if they start selling vouchers i will call their office irl and tell them how fucking stupid they are

be sure to record it and post it here.

[moambeiro]

If they start selling vouchers... My dream will be realized. :D

[Pretty Reckless]

If they start selling vouchers... My dream will be realized. :D

Your dream is that tibia will be completely ruined? ;/

[moambeiro]

Your dream is that tibia will be completely ruined? ;/

Why completely ruined?

[Pretty Reckless]

Why completely ruined?

Are you kidding me?
Imagine everyone having voucher all the time, skills and levels would increase in a speed that would completely ruin tibia.

[moambeiro]

Are you kidding me?
Imagine everyone having voucher all the time, skills and levels would increase in a speed that would completely ruin tibia.

Thinking in this way it would be something really bad, but then it would be enough to pay to have the benefits of vouchers that are so hard to achieve.

[Pretty Reckless]

Thinking in this way it would be something really bad, but then it would be enough to pay to have the benefits of vouchers that are so hard to achieve.

A voucher shouldn't be achieveable in any other way then it has been.
There is no bright side in having 2x skills and experience all the time, i assure you.

[moambeiro]

A voucher shouldn't be achieveable in any other way then it has been.
There is no bright side in having 2x skills and experience all the time, i assure you.

It is true, however in a near future I do not doubt that the CIP start selling it ... But maybe I'm wrong.

[Pretty Reckless]

It is true, however in a near future I do not doubt that the CIP start selling it ... But maybe I'm wrong.

I seriously doubt that will ever happen!

[Evancion]

Your dream is that tibia will be completely ruined? ;/

There's been some discussion on how people believe permanently increasing the experience rate might be the best for all.
The game takes way too long to get to 100, we've come to a point where the game has been around for so long, any new character/player is immediately lightyears behind.
I believe Shadowcores provides an experiment with extensive amount of data to show that a downward scaling of experience rates work.
MapleStory took this approach (Big Bang update) and revised their experience formula to provide lower levels to gain levels quicker, then it eventually scales out to be more difficult and it worked exceptionally well.

[Pretty Reckless]

There's been some discussion on how people believe permanently increasing the experience rate might be the best for all.
The game takes way too long to get to 100, we've come to a point where the game has been around for so long, any new character/player is immediately lightyears behind.
I believe Shadowcores provides an experiment with extensive amount of data to show that a downward scaling of experience rates work.
MapleStory took this approach (Big Bang update) and revised their experience formula to provide lower levels to gain levels quicker, then it eventually scales out to be more difficult and it worked exceptionally well.

I heard about that, and i doubt it would work for tibia, but who knows.
The part about it taking ages for people to level is weird, it takes 4-6 weeks to get level 100, easy.

[Evancion]

I heard about that, and i doubt it would work for tibia, but who knows.
The part about it taking ages for people to level is weird, it takes 4-6 weeks to get level 100, easy.

Put yourself into shoes of someone that is:
- Not rich/funded
- Not a botter
- Struggles to find a spawn due to botters

It's not easy at all.

[DarkstaR]

I heard about that, and i doubt it would work for tibia, but who knows.
The part about it taking ages for people to level is weird, it takes 4-6 weeks to get level 100, easy.

For new players it still takes months, even years. The problem is that Tibia is not a fun game, relative to other games, for new players. They see people running around at level 400 and 500 and get discouraged that they have played for 3 weeks and are level 16.

[Pretty Reckless]

Put yourself into shoes of someone that is:
- Not rich/funded
- Not a botter
- Struggles to find a spawn due to botters

It's not easy at all.

I am.
I never been rich/funded on tibia.
I have manually played several characters to 100.
Botters have and will always be around.

So i will stand with what i said, stages would only increase botters, easier to make moneymakers etc.

[I<3BOTTING]

tibia isnt really player friendly for new players, you get a shit 5 minute tutorial in rook then what? takes ages to learn the spawns ect its a real struggle for a newplayer who has never played tibia but @topic so what they sell stuff that make your character look differnt in my opinion the mounts look shit and they only look good on the tibia website lol