Mass-Deleted today.

[Nippe]

I just got deleted on 5 accounts, I was watching the screen when it happened. First one character was teleported to temple and got deleted, 10min later 4 accounts was sent to temple and got deleted at the same second.
All accounts created 5-10 days ago on retro pvp. None of them were registered.

Did this happen to anyone else today?

Just me who thinks that gms are actually looking up people?

2 days ago there was 5 gms online at the same time on morta, and the days before and after that there has been ALOT of gms online, very often 3-4 at the same time.

[raiQi]

Well on Morta you are getting tons of reports so it's a big risk botting there.

[Unuke12345]

There's been a lot of deletions, botting on the new servers (Morta & Mortera) will obviously be very risky considering it has tons of players, therefore more reports and more GMs.

[Relius]

Did your accounts have same login/pass/registerdata/creationdate? That's why few of my accounts were deleted last time (GMs are checking these things manually, I am almost sure of that). Their tactic is to kill big botters one by one.

[Nippe]

Did your accounts have same login/pass/registerdata/creationdate? That's why few of my accounts were deleted last time (GMs are checking these things manually, I am almost sure of that). Their tactic is to kill big botters one by one.

All of my accounts had random email, passwords etc. I thought of that when I created them.

The weird thing is that they are not connected to eachother. I never transfered cash between them, never botted in the same spawns or anything like that.

[martinpwnage]

My theorie: They know very well about us, they just pick people which have detailed reports - If they really want then they could delete us ALL because it's not really hard to check if we're a bot or not (some lines of code).

Delete accounts because of same login/pass/registerdata/creationdate seems bullshit to me (own experience).

[Nippe]

They did for sure look up my IP-adress. Thats the only way they could find ALL of my botchars, and they were all deleted at the same second.

random password+ acc number
random email
no registration
created different days
never botted in the same spawns
never transfered cash between them, no connection at all.

One of the accounts was even a new one, created 4 days ago. Highest level on that one was level 30 and had only been botting in empty spawns.

+ The fact that one of the chars got deleted first, then 10 mins later 4 other accounts was banned at the same second.

I guess cipsoft caught the first char while it was botting and then they looked up my ip adress, went to my other chars and deleted them all at once.

I was playing manually on my mainchar while this happened and I had my botchars visible at my other screen so I saw when they got teleported to temple and then got deleted.

[smeg]

Do you ever bot on your main char? Im curious because your mainchar didn't get deleted, right?

[Nippe]

I never used bot on my main char, I play on my mainchar with sandboxie.

[Nippe]

I just found another thing in my reports. I reported a guy who was blocking off a spawn with 6 characters, reported all of his chars and he got deleted on every single one of them within 1 minute. Seriously, cipsoft is searching for peoples ip adresses.

Oct 24 2014, 13:49:03 CEST Bot/Macro Report ***** processed
Oct 24 2014, 13:48:46 CEST Bot/Macro Report **** ****** processed
Oct 24 2014, 13:48:28 CEST Bot/Macro Report ****** processed
Oct 24 2014, 13:48:19 CEST Bot/Macro Report ******** processed
Oct 24 2014, 13:48:08 CEST Bot/Macro Report ****** **** processed
Oct 24 2014, 13:48:01 CEST Bot/Macro Report ****** processed

[Glowingstick]

I was also deleted today, 40 ek on morta and 180 ek on antica

[Nippe]

Okay a little update, I was botting on Quilia in the beginning of the server, all of my accounts that i had there was also deleted today even tho I havent logged in there since 3 weeks back....

So,
4 accounts created 5-10 days ago on morta has been deleted
1 account created 4 days ago on morta has been deleted
4 accounts created in the beginning of quilia has been deleted (havent logged in on them since 3 weeks)

All these accounts were deleted within 10 minutes today.

I basically got deleted on EVERY single account that I have been botting on since 2-3 months back.

The only char I was not deleted on is my mainchar that I manually exp on retro.

Is this some new kind of massbanning? Banning everyone botting from the same IP-adress?

(I also gave cipsoft the middle finger and created 6 new accounts on morta today)
botting is happiness, botting is life.

[Y2Quakepc2]

Okay a little update, I was botting on Quilia in the beginning of the server, all of my accounts that i had there was also deleted today even tho I havent logged in there since 3 weeks back....

So,
4 accounts created 5-10 days ago on morta has been deleted
1 account created 4 days ago on morta has been deleted
4 accounts created in the beginning of quilia has been deleted (havent logged in on them since 3 weeks)

All these accounts were deleted within 10 minutes today.

Is this some new kind of massbanning? Banning everyone botting from the same IP-adress?

(I also gave cipsoft the middle finger and created 6 new accounts on morta today)
this been happening for a while, for a real while.

[Nippe]

this been happening for a while, for a real while.

So what shall I expect now? To get deleted on every single botchar I create?

I hope I will make enough profit to buy new premium scrolls untill i get deleted tomorrow on my newly created accounts.

Also could you please give your thought on this situation since you seem to be an experienced member here? Have this happened to you? how do you avoid it? do you think cipsoft is searching for people by using ip-adresses?

[Y2Quakepc2]

So what shall I expect now? To get deleted on every single botchar I create?

I hope I will make enough profit to buy new premium scrolls untill i get deleted tomorrow on my newly created accounts.

Also could you please give your thought on this situation since you seem to be an experienced member here? Have this happened to you? how do you avoid it? do you think cipsoft is searching for people by using ip-adresses?

try making characters from old accounts. :)

[Nippe]

try making characters from old accounts. :)

How would that help? Does cipsoft not like new costumers? Are they focusing more on banning new accounts?

Do you think that they will harass me now and delete my chars constantly? Serious question.

[Y2Quakepc2]

I don't know what cipsoft likes or what they don't like.

I just know what works regarding new chars creations.

Get some old accounts that were played in the past, and bot up new characters in those, even if level 20's.

Tell us about the results later, not gonna give much more info about it.

[J.Dre]

You guys violate the rules and then freakout when you get punished for it, lol. :rolleyes:

Reports are being processed in real-time now. I reported a kid on Rowana Saturday evening because his bot was stuck in a loop and he was walking back and forth from the depot to the bank for a few hours. After reporting him, I was sitting in the depot for about 30 minutes trying to sell something, and then the guy just disappeared [poofed]. (He was teleported to the Thais temple and deleted by a GM.) When I looked him up on Tibia.com, it said, "A character with this name does not exist."

They can tell when you bot. I can tell when you bot. Any player can tell when you bot. Why wouldn't a GM be able to?

[Nippe]

I don't know what cipsoft likes or what they don't like.

I just know what works regarding new chars creations.

Get some old accounts that were played in the past, and bot up new characters in those, even if level 20's.

Tell us about the results later, not gonna give much more info about it.

You dont want to tell us why you think its more safe to bot with older accounts? are you talking from experience here? Are new accounts always going to get fucked over after a week of botting?

[Nippe]

You guys violate the rules and then freakout when you get punished for it, lol. :rolleyes:

Reports are being processed in real-time now. I reported a kid on Rowana Saturday evening because his bot was stuck in a loop and he was walking back and forth from the depot to the bank for a few hours. After reporting him, I was sitting in the depot for about 30 minutes trying to sell something, and then the guy just disappeared [poofed]. (He was teleported to the Thais temple and deleted by a GM.) When I looked him up on Tibia.com, it said, "A character with this name does not exist."

They can tell when you bot. I can tell when you bot. Any player can tell when you bot. Why wouldn't a GM be able to?

I do not freak out, I just post information and try to collect information. I got 5 new accounts premium 1 hour after all of my botchars was deleted. Now I am going to continue botting, hopefully for atleast 2 weeks before I get deleted again.
(I dont care about being deleted on these chars, I made 3kk cash and bought 14 prem scrolls in retro so far.)

ALL IN OR NOTHING.

[Y2Quakepc2]

Nippe talking from self-experience, just try it and tell us how it went, as i said im not gonna provide more information.
J.Dre we're talking about apples and you talk about oranges as always lol

[Nippe]

Nippe talking from self-experience, just try it and tell us how it went, as i said im not gonna provide more information.
J.Dre we're talking about apples and you talk about oranges as always lol

I dont have old accounts. I guess ill have to give cipsoft both my middle fingers and create 10 accounts to make as much cash as possible before I get deleted again.

Hopefully I wont get harassed by them.

PS. If my characters makes it to mrthomsen delete page, you can expect a good laugh, one entire page will be filled with lvl 50 knights from morta.

[Relius]

try making characters from old accounts. :)

It doesn't work and it doesn't make any sense. Quit being mysterious fedora guy and tell us something we don't know. I hate "I know but won't tell" attitude.

[Nippe]

Exactly, its like saying you got a big cock but refuse show it. Nobody will believe you. (Only the ladies will, which in this case is Cipsoft)

[Y2Quakepc2]

Relius i was just giving a tip, if you have any sustainable argument when you say that it doesn't make sense, please share your elightenment with us!
Nippe Aight bud, keep making accounts, even knowing you'll lose them lol.
rellikpoc add me on skype: y2quake12 ; you've your inbox full

enough said by my side
/thread

[blow]

I do not freak out, I just post information and try to collect information. I got 5 new accounts premium 1 hour after all of my botchars was deleted. Now I am going to continue botting, hopefully for atleast 2 weeks before I get deleted again.
(I dont care about being deleted on these chars, I made 3kk cash and bought 14 prem scrolls in retro so far.)

ALL IN OR NOTHING.


lol how made you 3kk in one week what a bullshit game lmao

[raiQi]

Wierd part is there is a rp 250+ on my server that is botting 24/7 and he has 40+ reports on him and he still haven't gotten banned.
He just keeps on botting.:eek:

[J.Dre]

J.Dre we're talking about apples and you talk about oranges as always lol

Apples and oranges? WHAT?! I WANT SOME!

Wait... I thought we were talking about botting...? :confused:

[Pinnicle]

There is no method to "safe" botting
You'll be deleted in the end if you keep botting, unless your incredibly lucky and don't receive punishment then gratz enjoy your char

[Nippe]

Yesterday I made 5 new accounts after I was deleted, bought premium on them and started botting, 15min ago I was deleted on all of those accounts.

[Gordo]

Yesterday I made 5 new accounts after I was deleted, bought premium on them and started botting, 15min ago I was deleted on all of those accounts.

you have extremely bad luck

[Nippe]

you have extremely bad luck

You think its bad "luck"? I dont, I think cipsoft are stalking people and searching for ip adresses.

Anyway, going to buy a proper VPN now and prem 5 more accs.

[Gordo]

You think its bad "luck"? I dont, I think cipsoft are stalking people and searching for ip adresses.

Anyway, going to buy a proper VPN now and prem 5 more accs.

i started a idgaf account 3 months ago, bout it 12 hours a day everyday since lvl 1 , no fucks given and no ban hammer yet.

[Thaumasite]

i started a idgaf account 3 months ago, bout it 12 hours a day everyday since lvl 1 , no fucks given and no ban hammer yet.


I've even started 2 accounts 4 months ago and botting them 24/7 with few characters on an account. One acc = prem, second one = facc


No ban so far. XENO 4EVER

[Nippe]

So how come I was deleted on 13 accounts the last 34 hours?

5 of those accounts was created 11-6 days ago ( all of them premium )
5 of those accounts was created 16h ago ( all of them premium )
3 of those accounts was created 2 months ago and havent been logged in on since 3 weeks back (all of them free account)

Do you guys really think this is bad luck? or is cipsoft targeting some people?

I would like to have a response from Darkstar about this. I dont feel like buying prem on another 5 accounts just to have them deleted again tomorrow.

Question to Darkstar - Why do you think this is happening to me? Are they searching for characters on the same ip-adress? any thoughts?

[MrGreen]

So how come I was deleted on 13 accounts the last 34 hours?

5 of those accounts was created 11-6 days ago ( all of them premium )
5 of those accounts was created 16h ago ( all of them premium )
3 of those accounts was created 2 months ago and havent been logged in on since 3 weeks back (all of them free account)

Do you guys really think this is bad luck? or is cipsoft targeting some people?

I would like to have a response from Darkstar about this. I dont feel like buying prem on another 5 accounts just to have them deleted again tomorrow.

Question to Darkstar - Why do you think this is happening to me? Are they searching for characters on the same ip-adress? any thoughts?

I think they are targeting people who bot like you, people that bot on multiple accounts. Ofcourse they would prefeer to ban your accounts rather than for example my account because I only bot like 30% of my play time on 1 single account. And you have probably many reports on all of your botters and this might be linked to your IP? So CIP can see how much a specific IP has been reported.. or something :P Just speculating

[Nippe]

I think they are targeting people who bot like you, people that bot on multiple accounts. Ofcourse they would prefeer to ban your accounts rather than for example my account because I only bot like 30% of my play time on 1 single account. And you have probably many reports on all of your botters and this might be linked to your IP? So CIP can see how much a specific IP has been reported.. or something :P Just speculating

I cant be the only one botting on 5 accounts at once... I have never heard of anyone who has been banned on all of their accounts, made 5 new accounts and gotten banned on all of those within 24h after creation.

[MrGreen]

I cant be the only one botting on 5 accounts at once... I have never heard of anyone who has been banned on all of their accounts, made 5 new accounts and gotten banned on all of those within 24h after creation.

Maybe you where unlucky and got a GM on you, then he looked you up and saw that you've made 5accs who aslo where online and looked at then then saw/assumed that you where botting.

My friend and his buddys where banned on all of their accounds a while ago.

[Nippe]

Maybe you where unlucky and got a GM on you, then he looked you up and saw that you've made 5accs who aslo where online and looked at then then saw/assumed that you where botting.

My friend and his buddys where banned on all of their accounds a while ago.

So a gm looked me up yesterday, banned all my chars online, and also my chars which i havent logged into since 3 weeks back, and today at 8:45 this morning the very same gm came back and deleted all of my accounts again?

[MrGreen]

So a gm looked me up yesterday, banned all my chars online, and also my chars which i havent logged into since 3 weeks back, and today at 8:45 this morning the very same gm came back and deleted all of my accounts again?

OR, the gm came up to you > Saw that you where botting > looked at your ip > saw that you had other accounts registerd to that ip = banned.. no need to be so butthurt about it, you're botting at risk of beeing banned. I know you're mad because you lost alot of money and you should be.

[kaziu846]

Not more than a week ago a 24/7 bot account of mine has been deleted. I'm not surprised though:p

What I would like to know is what Dark's thoughts are about this situation and if he could comment on this (http://www.tibia.com/news/?subtopic=newsarchive&id=2956&fbegind=28&fbeginm=9&fbeginy=2014&fendd=28&fendm=10&fendy=2014&flist=11111111) news.

[Relius]

Okay, let's examine all possible theories/info:

1) Cipsoft checks detected players manually (IP, Register data) to find the rest of their botfarms.
2) Cipsoft found a way to detect core functions of bots (would explain extremely fast deletions)
3) Reports are also processed in real time by Cip's GMs. Part of theory of deletions happening during Cip work time.
4) Anticheat tool got sharpened so much it detects innocent players who perform bot-like actions (Mendeel from Antica who got deleted for the third time. All he was doing was playing dice and writing ad msgs like bots do). One of my accounts was deleted day after using a simple script which was pushing items with unhuman precision.
5) There are still lots of players who hasn't been touched, even those who botted like mad with bad scripts. On the other hand there are players who are massacred by Cipsoft.
6) Deletion numbers are very irregular depending on server (there was a purge on Calmera where 1000+ characters were deleted in one day while there were worlds that were completely untouched)
7) On tibia.com there was a thread which was deleted really fast about banning being based on character messages.

In my opinion Cip found weak spot that all bots share + they try to eliminate big botters one by one using GMs. Our job is to find pattern as fast as possible. Don't let Cip win! We had them on knees already - "While we have struggled at times, we have never given up the fight against cheating." Make new accounts, report random fair players, mess with their tool! To war!

[Nippe]

Okay, let's examine all possible theories/info:

1) Cipsoft checks detected players manually (IP, Register data) to find the rest of their botfarms.
2) Cipsoft found a way to detect core functions of bots (would explain extremely fast deletions)
3) Reports are also processed in real time by Cip's GMs. Part of theory of deletions happening during Cip work time.
4) Anticheat tool got sharpened so much it detects innocent players who perform bot-like actions (Mendeel from Antica who got deleted for the third time. All he was doing was playing dice and writing ad msgs like bots do). One of my accounts was deleted day after using a simple script which was pushing items with unhuman precision.
5) There are still lots of players who hasn't been touched, even those who botted like mad with bad scripts. On the other hand there are players who are massacred by Cipsoft.
6) Deletion numbers are very irregular depending on server (there was a purge on Calmera where 1000+ characters were deleted in one day while there were worlds that were completely untouched)
7) On tibia.com there was a thread which was deleted really fast about banning being based on character messages.

In my opinion Cip found weak spot that all bots share + they try to eliminate big botters one by one using GMs. Our job is to find pattern as fast as possible. Don't let Cip win! We had them on knees already - "While we have struggled at times, we have never given up the fight against cheating." Make new accounts, report random fair players, mess with their tool! To war!

Not giving up, 13 account deleted of which 10 were premium. Just bought a decent VPN and will try again, if im not getting banned within a few days now then I can tell you that its for sure your IP-adress they are finding chars with.

[Woogiemastah]

I was deleted yesterday on my moneymake on Motra. Acc was botted 24h/day so no big suprice(sadly i got here all creatures for yasir). What is interesting i got 3 accs. 1 was ofline while second was botting on ankrahmun scarabs at the same time. And only moneymaker get deleted (i must add that as soon i saw my char deletion i go ofline training with second one). But still it doesnt seems to be ip thing esppecially i don;t use any sandboxie or sth, my mc is mannulay made using hex neo.

[tadek67]

Hey,
My acc got ban too :S I use bot only 3-5h a day. Never go down with stamina below 30h+11165

Be care

[lonatic]

I bot 3 accounts 24/7 that i made back around 5-6 months ago now from lvl 1-180+ i have also fallen asleep and left them running down to 13 hours stamina or less quite a few times and all are still ok.

Btw i bot all using MC on same pc, I log them all in at the same time each day and they run till they kicked on SS the next morning. Tho i dont use scripts from the forums i always use my own.

The only account i ever lost was a facc that i had for about 3 weeks and run it using free scripts on the forums.

[Nippe]

I bot 3 accounts 24/7 that i made back around 5-6 months ago now from lvl 1-180+ i have also fallen asleep and left them running down to 13 hours stamina or less quite a few times and all are still ok.

Btw i bot all using MC on same pc, I log them all in at the same time each day and they run till they kicked on SS the next morning. Tho i dont use scripts from the forums i always use my own.

The only account i ever lost was a facc that i had for about 3 weeks and run it using free scripts on the forums.

Lucky you. The situation is really fucked for me at the moment. I have no idea why cipsoft is targeting me.

Im not even a huge botter, I ran maximum 5 MCs at the same time.

They must really have some issues with me since I got deleted on 2 freshly made accounts yesterday, bought prem for them and only had them for 16 hours before they got deleted.

Anyway, im using VPN now and hopefully I wont get deleted on the new batch of accounts I created today.

[Perelman]

Nippe they just probably flagged your IP and when you run new accounts you light up as a christmas tree in their database.

[Nippe]

Nippe they just probably flagged your IP and when you run new accounts you light up as a christmas tree in their database.

Yup, I believe it is so, and right now hope it is so since it wont show my original IP anymore if they search for it.

[Perelman]

Yup, I believe it is so, and right now hope it is so since it wont show my original IP anymore if they search for it.

And if that really is the case, a paid VPN is now pretty much a requirement for serious botting.

[Nippe]

It has to be so, none of my accounts were registered, played on different servers, some were made months ago, some were made yesterday and deleted the same day, some had not been logged in to since 3 weeks. None of the accounts had ANY connection at all, randomized rumbers as password and account number, all had really different emails, none were registered, all botted on different scripts.

ALL of my accounts were deleted at the same time.

Now I will change my ip adress every time I login on tibia. Will be hard for cipsoft to track my accounts by doing so.

[soul4soul]

It has to be so, none of my accounts were registered, played on different servers, some were made months ago, some were made yesterday and deleted the same day, some had not been logged in to since 3 weeks. None of the accounts had ANY connection at all, randomized rumbers as password and account number, all had really different emails, none were registered, all botted on different scripts.

ALL of my accounts were deleted at the same time.

Now I will change my ip adress every time I login on tibia. Will be hard for cipsoft to track my accounts by doing so.
What scripts were you using? Did you use the same scripts on all/most the chars?

[secret121]

can anyone confirm the time of day they got deleted? was it during cip open hours?

[ogwako]

lol yeah forreal was it while cip hours?

[sausting]

It has to be so, none of my accounts were registered, played on different servers, some were made months ago, some were made yesterday and deleted the same day, some had not been logged in to since 3 weeks. None of the accounts had ANY connection at all, randomized rumbers as password and account number, all had really different emails, none were registered, all botted on different scripts.

ALL of my accounts were deleted at the same time.

Now I will change my ip adress every time I login on tibia. Will be hard for cipsoft to track my accounts by doing so.

What bot were you using months ago?
The situation on the new retro severs is without precedence. It's not like preview and not like the latest open pvp servers.

Having had nearly 40 deleted accounts in my experience I don't see IP address to be a contributing factor.

[anonymous101060]

report random fair players

.........

[Roarz]

http://www.tibia.com/news/?subtopic=newsarchive&id=2956&fbegind=29&fbeginm=9&fbeginy=2014&fendd=29&fendm=10&fendy=2014&flist=11111111

[Trolled1337xx]

http://www.tibia.com/news/?subtopic=newsarchive&id=2956&fbegind=29&fbeginm=9&fbeginy=2014&fendd=29&fendm=10&fendy=2014&flist=11111111

Sick amount! :o

[Nippe]

What scripts were you using? Did you use the same scripts on all/most the chars?

I used different scripts on all characters.

[Nippe]

can anyone confirm the time of day they got deleted? was it during cip open hours?

I have never been deleted after cipsoft office was closed, earliest delete was 08:46 in the morning and the latest 15:12.
I can confirm the times since I was actually making refillers when my chars got deleted. Was almost finished with my script when my char was teleported to temple and got deleted.
I was actually thinking the same, the system is not automatic, wont ban you in the middle of the night. Cipsoft is deleting when they come to their office.

[Nippe]

What bot were you using months ago?
The situation on the new retro severs is without precedence. It's not like preview and not like the latest open pvp servers.

Having had nearly 40 deleted accounts in my experience I don't see IP address to be a contributing factor.

well I guess you didnt have ALL of your accounts deleted within 34 hours, 5 of those account being created 16hours before deletion and few of the accounts havent been logged in on since 3 weeks back.

[satoshi]

Dude, something is weird here... I don't even know if I believe this story...

[draadloos]

My thoughts are that indeed, they track by ip adres. Also, dont make a new bot account on the same email adres.

And indeed, we, the botting community, and afcourse the creators of bots like darkstar, alerdy had cipsoft on there knees. Now its the trick to find new methods to do so.

In my opinion there are some key factors that are in play:
I also got deleted on 2 accounts, both during cips working hours. I think this is an, according that many poeple had the same, they do it by hand. So, only botting besides working ourhs should make it a little bit saver.
Also, i think running the same script all the time makes it more likely to get "checked out".

And every char i ever heard got deleted, got deleted when it was online for so far i know. That means they also check it again after detection by hand. Bud, there is still a detection system, wich i think works togheter wich reports.

And where there is a system, there is something to break down!

[iMike]

#CipsoftHiresDarkstaR

[Pietro1906]

#CipsoftHiresDarkstaR

http://forums.xenobot.net/customavatars/avatar1129_13.gif

[Nippe]

Okay guys, since I started using VPN I havent been deleted, Ill update here about what is happening. Im 99% sure they tracked all my accounts by my IP-adress.

Running 3 accounts at the moment, all premium.

My last 5 accounts was deleted 16hours after creation, these new ones have survived for 20hours now.

[Nippe]

Dude, something is weird here... I don't even know if I believe this story...

Yeah something is weird, I almost could not believe it myself when 5 freshly made accounts, all premium got deleted 16hours after creation, especially when ALL of my older accounts were deleted at the exact same second(I was watching the screen when the characters got logged out at the exact same time) just 20h before that.

I guess Cipsoft is up to something, and when they are, someone always has to be the first victim. I guess im one of the first?

By the way, for those of you interested, the amount of deleted botters shown on mrthomsen and that other site is not correct at all.

Only one of my 36 chars(the highest leveled one) was added to their websites. (from a total of 13 accounts, spread out over 3 different servers)

I have a theory here, maybe they only show one character per ip-adress on mrthomsen? Just so it wont be massive spam since alot of people have forexample 20 characters doing hellgate on the same account.

That could explain why only "Ne Su" from morta is shown deleted on mrthomsen while 10 of his hellgate accounts and a few botknights also was deleted.

How is mrthomsen getting their statistics? from Cipsoft?

I think alot fewer individuals are getting deletes than we expect, I guess cipsoft brag about their statistics because they take down massive botters like the hellgate daily taskers and people like me who usually run 5 mc at once. I guess they focuse on us since they dont have time to catch every single average-joe botting his only mainchar. I would not be surprised if the numbers they show on their website like "15.000" accounts deleted actually only is 2000-4000 invididual players but who has gotten deleted on 3-10 accounts each. When they add my accounts to their statistics, they wont say one player, they will add 13 accounts to their 15k deleted/month statistics even tho im just one guy.

They probably also catch peoples moneyholders by looking at ip-adresses, that could be why alot of people have been deleted on their moneyholders even tho they never transfered/parceled cash between botchars-moneyholder and just put it on the floor instead.

[jikoe]

Yeah something is weird, I almost could not believe it myself when 5 freshly made accounts, all premium got deleted 16hours after creation, especially when ALL of my older accounts were deleted just 20h before that.

I guess Cipsoft is up to something, and when they are, someone always has to be the first victim. I guess im one of the first ones?

its xenobot. Use windbot and you won't get deleted in the beginning

i had the same, it is not ip related 100% sure

I lvled up 20 chars from lvl 1 to 8-30. They all got deleted on the same day though. Then i started to lvl up 20 chars with windbot, and they are now all level 80 botting them all at the same time always so 20 clients, and i didnt get deleted

as i mentioned in a previous post xenobot is really good to use if you are warring, pking etc. But sadly enough the cavebot side of xenobot seems to be detectable.

Also if you didn't do it yet: Try to use randomized e-mails, account numbers and password. You might get deleted on all of your accounts at once if you use like the same e-mail adres, or the same password

[iMike]

http://forums.xenobot.net/customavatars/avatar1129_13.gif

Haha, rofl.
Good one! :P

[Weathercock]

its xenobot. Use windbot and you won't get deleted in the beginning

i had the same, it is not ip related 100% sure

I lvled up 20 chars from lvl 1 to 8-30. They all got deleted on the same day though. Then i started to lvl up 20 chars with windbot, and they are now all level 80 botting them all at the same time always so 20 clients, and i didnt get deleted

as i mentioned in a previous post xenobot is really good to use if you are warring, pking etc. But sadly enough the cavebot side of xenobot seems to be detectable.

Also if you didn't do it yet: Try to use randomized e-mails, account numbers and password. You might get deleted on all of your accounts at once if you use like the same e-mail adres, or the same password
Any other benefit to using windbot?

[Nippe]

its xenobot. Use windbot and you won't get deleted in the beginning

i had the same, it is not ip related 100% sure

I lvled up 20 chars from lvl 1 to 8-30. They all got deleted on the same day though. Then i started to lvl up 20 chars with windbot, and they are now all level 80 botting them all at the same time always so 20 clients, and i didnt get deleted

as i mentioned in a previous post xenobot is really good to use if you are warring, pking etc. But sadly enough the cavebot side of xenobot seems to be detectable.

Also if you didn't do it yet: Try to use randomized e-mails, account numbers and password. You might get deleted on all of your accounts at once if you use like the same e-mail adres, or the same password

How can you say that Windbot is safer when I was reading their forum yesterday and ALOT of people complained that they got deleted on EVERY single account they owned during the last few days?
Alot of guys were pissed over at the windbot forums because they were deleted on 5-30 accounts each.

Before I got this mass-delete on all my accounts I was botting just fine with xenobot, didnt get a single delete in many months.

Yesterday I was even talking to Lucas Terra over a private chat (owner?/administrator) of Windbot, and he said that nobody knows how cipsoft is detecting people and that no bot is safe, not even windbot.

So please dont come here with your bullshit when you clearly know nothing about what is actually going on, doing so will only confuse people.

A theory why you got deleted on alot of your newly made accounts could be that you once were caught with a character running in a special pattern in a cave forexample, could be why many many got deleted for using infernalbolts rookgaard-main script. Cipsoft simply save this pattern that the deleted character has been using and simply match it with other characters doing exactly the same thing.

And when you switched over to windbot you started using a different script that was following/running in another pattern which cipsoft has not saved and wont detect.

Im not saying it is so, but it seems logical to me.

[raiQi]

its xenobot. Use windbot and you won't get deleted in the beginning

i had the same, it is not ip related 100% sure

I lvled up 20 chars from lvl 1 to 8-30. They all got deleted on the same day though. Then i started to lvl up 20 chars with windbot, and they are now all level 80 botting them all at the same time always so 20 clients, and i didnt get deleted

as i mentioned in a previous post xenobot is really good to use if you are warring, pking etc. But sadly enough the cavebot side of xenobot seems to be detectable.

Also if you didn't do it yet: Try to use randomized e-mails, account numbers and password. You might get deleted on all of your accounts at once if you use like the same e-mail adres, or the same password
That Windbot is safer than Xeno is just bullshit. The amount of people getting banned with Wind is ridiculous.

[Pinnicle]

jikoe
Used windbot for a week to test it on a new character and I got banned in 4 days
Used xenobot for years and only been banned on one which was my fault

[reecey]

This is silly...

We pretty much know by now that the new generation of bots are ban-proof especially Xenobot from what I've gathered from his streams he put alot of effort in to it making it look as human as possible and that it's reports that get you banned

So since Xenobot has a relatively small userbase its only logical that we get the least bans... simple
Also we're a nice tight community and are generally more mature and smart about our botting habits which further decreases our ban rate

I used tugbot back in the day and for 20 hours straight it got stuck in a non-random loop then i moved onto neobot and oh my god atleast 2-3x a month the bot would start an infinite loop of banker/depositer/supplies and since i was busy back then it was usualy 12+hrs each time and even now with xenobot i've setup some scripts wrong and they have looped for hours and hours and im not banned...
I have even went as far as making my own trainer (before offline trainers) with autoit and never got banned...

So shut up about which bot is safer - they are all safe and darkstar puts a shit ton of effort into making Xenobot one of, if not the safest but then it's all down to the scripts you use and make and reports.

[Nippe]

This is silly...

We pretty much know by now that the new generation of bots are ban-proof especially Xenobot from what I've gathered from his streams he put alot of effort in to it making it look as human as possible and that it's reports that get you banned

So since Xenobot has a relatively small userbase its only logical that we get the least bans... simple
Also we're a nice tight community and are generally more mature and smart about our botting habits which further decreases our ban rate

I used tugbot back in the day and for 20 hours straight it got stuck in a non-random loop then i moved onto neobot and oh my god atleast 2-3x a month the bot would start an infinite loop of banker/depositer/supplies and since i was busy back then it was usualy 12+hrs each time and even now with xenobot i've setup some scripts wrong and they have looped for hours and hours and im not banned...
I have even went as far as making my own trainer (before offline trainers) with autoit and never got banned...

So shut up about which bot is safer - they are all safe and darkstar puts a shit ton of effort into making Xenobot one of, if not the safest but then it's all down to the scripts you use and make and reports.

So how do you explain me getting banned on 5 accounts, 16hours after creation. All premium and botting in different spawns, different cities, no connection whatsoever. This was during night aswell, I was alone in the spawns and im sure nobody reported me.

+ You cant be very smart if you say that all bots are safe when I made this thread cuz I was banned on 13 accounts.

[reecey]

So how do you explain me getting banned on 5 accounts, 16hours after creation. All premium and botting in different spawns, different cities, no connection whatsoever. This was during night aswell, I was alone in the spawns and im sure nobody reported me.

+ You cant be very smart if you say that all bots are safe when I made this thread cuz I was banned on 13 accounts.

So i can reply how do you explain me NOT getting banned? - Pretty shit argument isnt it?

The bots are safe - Xenobot very safe. The scripts are not Xenobot so i deem them not safe unless DarkstaR personally approved them.

I just think you are lying or over exaggerating the circumstances so just stop since it's almost a fact that reports = bans unless it's related to gambling or other special cases or im SURE more than 1-3 users a month have mass acc bans since alot of us bot 5+ accs 24/7

[Nippe]

So i can reply how do you explain me NOT getting banned? - Pretty shit argument isnt it?

The bots are safe - Xenobot very safe. The scripts are not Xenobot so i deem them not safe unless DarkstaR personally approved them.

I just think you are lying or over exaggerating the circumstances so just stop since it's almost a fact that reports = bans unless it's related to gambling or other special cases or im SURE more than 1-3 users a month have mass acc bans since alot of us bot 5+ accs 24/7

The scripts are as safe as they can become, I only use weak nodes, randomized timers at npc, only randomized waits. So dont come here and act like you know something, come back here and talk when you got banned yourself.

There are alot of people who never got deleted, and there are alot of people who has been deleted. Its all about who cipsoft chose to target, if they wanted to they could wipe most of the botters in one day, but they wont because if they did they would have to fire alot of people from their company.

If cipsoft paid me to take care of botters, I could ban thousands every day, completely wipe servers from botters. THEY WILL NEVER DO THAT.

No botters = no money

[sausting]

So how do you explain me getting banned on 5 accounts, 16hours after creation. All premium and botting in different spawns, different cities, no connection whatsoever. This was during night aswell, I was alone in the spawns and im sure nobody reported me.

+ You cant be very smart if you say that all bots are safe when I made this thread cuz I was banned on 13 accounts.

this thread has blown up since my last post so forgive me for skimming it, but you did not answer what bot you were using "months ago" since you only joined xeno last month. furthermore you havent specified what kind of log in details you were using ect. I too have been deleted on several accounts at the same time. A deleted 'batch' usually were all created on the same day within minutes of eachother and having very similar names. When I think of how they 'hand check' accounts I imagine the info is before them on the screen in some form of chart or spreadsheet where they will easily be able to see all the data fields of the accounts in question (ie, acc name, pass, creation date, email, registration, #/REPORTS, ect.) This of course is speculation but if you can imagine a scenario like this it would be blatantly obvious that the string of 8 accounts that all sit next to eachother on this database list all have very similar data fields.

If it was simply by IP address surely they would have deleted ALL my accounts when they deleted the 6 + 5 accounts of mine (2 'batches' 2 different 'acc name runs') instead the other 20+ accounts that are turned on almost daily were untouched. This is why I do not believe IP is the single determining factor.

[Nippe]

this thread has blown up since my last post so forgive me for skimming it, but you did not answer what bot you were using "months ago" since you only joined xeno last month. furthermore you havent specified what kind of log in details you were using ect. I too have been deleted on several accounts at the same time. A deleted 'batch' usually were all created on the same day within minutes of eachother and having very similar names. When I think of how they 'hand check' accounts I imagine the info is before them on the screen in some form of chart or spreadsheet where they will easily be able to see all the data fields of the accounts in question (ie, acc name, pass, creation date, email, registration, #/REPORTS, ect.) This of course is speculation but if you can imagine a scenario like this it would be blatantly obvious that the string of 8 accounts that all sit next to eachother on this database list all have very similar data fields.

If it was simply by IP address surely they would have deleted ALL my accounts when they deleted the 6 + 5 accounts of mine (2 'batches' 2 different 'acc name runs') instead the other 20+ accounts that are turned on almost daily were untouched. This is why I do not believe IP is the single determining factor.

I have been using xenobot for a long time, but with a different login. How often do you change ip adress?

I never changed mine before I started using a VPN yesterday, it has been the same since a year back. Maybe they gathered enough data coming from one single IP to just ban alot of accounts at once? If you change ip from time to time it would make their work alot harder.

Btw, the new batch of accounts I created rougly 28 hours ago has not been touched, seems to be safe using a VPN now.

[reecey]

I have been using xenobot for a long time, but with a different login. How often do you change ip adress?

I never changed mine before I started using a VPN yesterday, it has been the same since a year back. Maybe they gathered enough data coming from one single IP to just ban alot of accounts at once? If you change ip from time to time it would make their work alot harder.

Btw, the new batch of accounts I created rougly 28 hours ago has not been touched, seems to be safe using a VPN now.


You are funny :P Can i borrow your tinfoil hat?

[alpha90]

http://www.tibiatracker.com/deletions


I've 0 deletions until now

[Nippe]

You are funny :P Can i borrow your tinfoil hat?

Sure, added you to my ignore list at the same time. enjoy.

successfully added to your ignore list. You will now be returned to where you were.

[Username0615]

0 deletions for me, but I only been botting my pally 2 hours a day

[svennn]

Sure, added you to my ignore list at the same time. enjoy.

successfully added to your ignore list. You will now be returned to where you were.

Honestly though, what other people are saying seems to go into one ear and out of the other for you.

What the others are saying is true. While VPN may (at least seem to) make you safe for now, that does not mean that you are safe in the future. There are a lot of things you can do to prevent detection and deletion and VPN is one of them. In the long run you will however with high likelyness get detected and deletion.

We don't know for sure how they are detecting us and therefore we do not know how to protect from getting deleted. However we know that there are a lot things that we can do to lessen the likelyhood of getting deleted. For example: using VPN, making your own scripts, adding randomizers, making account with randomized account names & passwords, adding checkers to make sure our characters don't spam chat, botting in places where you are less likely to get reported, not being full AFK, etc.

[Nippe]

Honestly though, what other people are saying seems to go into one ear and out of the other for you.

What the others are saying is true. While VPN may (at least seem to) make you safe for now, that does not mean that you are safe in the future. There are a lot of things you can do to prevent detection and deletion and VPN is one of them. In the long run you will however with high likelyness get detected and deletion.

We don't know for sure how they are detecting us and therefore we do not know how to protect from getting deleted. However we know that there are a lot things that we can do to lessen the likelyhood of getting deleted. For example: using VPN, making your own scripts, adding randomizers, making account with randomized account names & passwords, adding checkers to make sure our characters don't spam chat, botting in places where you are less likely to get reported, not being full AFK, etc.

A botted character is just temporary, its all about making as much cash as possible before you get deleted.
People who are botting their mainchars and plans on playing on them for a long time are pretty stupid imo. I know you will always get deleted in the long run.
I saw alot of people on quilia who was buying expensive houses for 500k-1kk each + outfits like full barbarian and full assassin in the beginning of the server just to have their chars deleted after a couple weeks.

[satoshi]

A VPN, in my opinion, is more sketchy than not using one because if you are so worried about Cip taking time to analyze connections, you would think that multiple changing IP addresses would indicate account sharing. Just a thought...
And I bet you made all these accounts right around the same time, so when a report comes in, all Cip would have to do is look at the registry of recently created accounts, and see yours (some tie between them whether it is same pass, similar login, etc) all created one after the other. If there is IP tracking then this would fuck you as well. All I can say is be more careful... don't be fucking ridiculous about botting, and write your own scripts with a respond-er when people msg you.

[pajfest]

A VPN, in my opinion, is more sketchy than not using one because if you are so worried about Cip taking time to analyze connections, you would think that multiple changing IP addresses would indicate account sharing. Just a thought...
And I bet you made all these accounts right around the same time, so when a report comes in, all Cip would have to do is look at the registry of recently created accounts, and see yours (some tie between them whether it is same pass, similar login, etc) all created one after the other. If there is IP tracking then this would fuck you as well. All I can say is be more careful... don't be fucking ridiculous about botting, and write your own scripts with a respond-er when people msg you.
Multiple changing IP-addresses doesn't necessarily mean its account sharing. There are still many people in the US at-least that don't have static IPs. However if it jumped from an IP in NA to one in ASIA that would be suspicious. :cool:

[Nippe]

So its been 4 days since I made another batch of 5 accounts and bought a VPN. I have been changing ip-adress 2 times a day and I have not been deleted so far.

I can say for sure, 100% that cipsoft is looking up ip-adresses and banning alot of accounts botted from the same IP.

If you bot alot of accounts at once, buy a VPN and change your ip from time to time.

[sausting]

So its been 4 days since I made another batch of 5 accounts and bought a VPN. I have been changing ip-adress 2 times a day and I have not been deleted so far.

I can say for sure, 100% that cipsoft is looking up ip-adresses and banning alot of accounts botted from the same IP.

If you bot alot of accounts at once, buy a VPN and change your ip from time to time.
i bot 20-30 accounts at a time, as many as 40 online at once. Never have all accounts been deleted.

[pajfest]

If they wanted to go further they could also MAC ban you guys, then you would need to spoof MAC to ban-evade. XD

[Marlboro1]

i just want to share that i got deleted on 1 of my 5 accouns, i bot them 16-20 hours a day, with the same computer and network, not using vpn and/or sandboxie; so im not sure they look up for ip adress :).

[Nippe]

1 been going for one week without getting banned. VPN for helped for sure.

[cliffy]

i got panned on my main account today, i never go full afk always at computer to reply and stuff and still banned.4 accounts that i bot for 20~ hours a day 7 days a week still not banned... weird

[Thaumasite]

They just focus on people with over few accs. They don't really care if one normal person using bot.

[raiQi]

Another salamander acc just got banned.
2 new accs created.
"Cut off one head, two more take its place" askeokeopekeoekspeksope

[sausting]

i got panned on my main account today, i never go full afk always at computer to reply and stuff and still banned.4 accounts that i bot for 20~ hours a day 7 days a week still not banned... weird
i too had a main acc banned that i only lvld 1 char on, while many trash bot accounts remained unpunished

Another salamander acc just got banned.
2 new accs created.
"Cut off one head, two more take its place" askeokeopekeoekspeksope
aye aye sire

[svennn]

i got panned on my main account today, i never go full afk always at computer to reply and stuff and still banned.4 accounts that i bot for 20~ hours a day 7 days a week still not banned... weird

I'm thinking it a lot of the time has something to do with the amount of reports u get for botting.

[J.Dre]

I'm thinking it a lot of the time has something to do with the amount of reports u get for botting.

I agree. Now that GM's are back, it's obvious that reports have a much greater impact.

Avoid AFK botting and you'll likely avoid being mass-reported, or reported altogether.

J.Dre

[anonymous101060]

GM's are back? Didn't know this when did this news come out?

[Kim]

Well, after the years I thought those massbans where not nothing to care about, but finally I got my punishment.

Banned on 5 moneymakers, all of them at the same hour, they're probably looking at IP's.

I'm going to say goodbye for now, thanks to Xenobot for the bot experience the last couple of years, and good luck to everyone.

Kim.

[HjugO]

I got ban on my EK on Quillia, but I shared this acc with brotha and he botting on Coryms / Laguna, so a lot of reports, but I have also next EK (same level as deletera acc) botted at the same time as banned acc, so far still exists.


try making characters from old accounts. :)
Deletera Acc was created at 2004, second EK created at 2005.

[Jrogow]

Also deleted main char...botted 2 accs only one got banned the other still exists. Strange :(

[deathcomestoall]

i myself have been deleted numerous amounts of times, no matter how hidden the spawn is. i play solera, ive had :: 238ek, 250 ek, 245 rp, 145ms,144ed, 140 ek, 120ek, 220 ed, 110 ms and 220 rp deleted. i actually got deleted on the 220ed and 110ms today. so take it as a warning dont bot for a week or so, my 220 ed was only ever botted once....

[sausting]

i myself have been deleted numerous amounts of times, no matter how hidden the spawn is. i play solera, ive had :: 238ek, 250 ek, 245 rp, 145ms,144ed, 140 ek, 120ek, 220 ed, 110 ms and 220 rp deleted. i actually got deleted on the 220ed and 110ms today. so take it as a warning dont bot for a week or so, my 220 ed was only ever botted once....

thats brutal, hoping i dont meet the same fate as the boss.
thanks for not killin me ;)
~the avatar

[Reyen]

Today, my 90ek quilia banned after 50days of botting(4-5hdaily)
First char banned after 3years of botting

[mastro]

i have theory that if u buying ur premium via ur visa they might hold you even if they know ur bot
many of my friends around getting deleted and even these who bot on same place as me and even less than me getting deleted i ask few of them are u using ur visa to purchase pacc or u getting scroll almost all takin scroll so unlikely me cip dont make straight profit from this players and they might know i am botting i am being reported for sure on my ek but still i didnt get deleted, im not botting like hell im watching chars uptime time but i have 2 acc's premium and few times i wasted stamina like hell 22/24 but im trying to be fair with humanlike uptime so it might be way for serious one botters ppl try it use ur main wisely buy pacc by ur visa and when u mass botting 10 accs use some real mask like proper proxy or ibvpn whatever and check it out
this fuckers care about money only and most non botters bring this money for them so when they see u pay we let u play i know botters bring this tibia market alive but doesnt matter they will never erase all and ppl who pay from pocket are happy that they see cip doin something with that all makes sense

[Fleet]

i have theory that if u buying ur premium via ur visa they might hold you even if they know ur bot
many of my friends around getting deleted and even these who bot on same place as me and even less than me getting deleted i ask few of them are u using ur visa to purchase pacc or u getting scroll almost all takin scroll so unlikely me cip dont make straight profit from this players and they might know i am botting i am being reported for sure on my ek but still i didnt get deleted, im not botting like hell im watching chars uptime time but i have 2 acc's premium and few times i wasted stamina like hell 22/24 but im trying to be fair with humanlike uptime so it might be way for serious one botters ppl try it use ur main wisely buy pacc by ur visa and when u mass botting 10 accs use some real mask like proper proxy or ibvpn whatever and check it out
this fuckers care about money only and most non botters bring this money for them so when they see u pay we let u play i know botters bring this tibia market alive but doesnt matter they will never erase all and ppl who pay from pocket are happy that they see cip doin something with that all makes sense

No, that's not correct. I've had accounts deleted which I paid premium with Visa, many others aswell.

[RobD]

I was among the deleted, main account too and I hadn't botted it in like nearly a year >.<

[raiQi]

If you buy premium with phone payment using a phone like this you will never get deleted. I just emailed Cip and asked and they confirmed it.
http://i62.tinypic.com/11kkwfs.jpg

[NeeP]

i myself have been deleted numerous amounts of times, no matter how hidden the spawn is. i play solera, ive had :: 238ek, 250 ek, 245 rp, 145ms,144ed, 140 ek, 120ek, 220 ed, 110 ms and 220 rp deleted. i actually got deleted on the 220ed and 110ms today. so take it as a warning dont bot for a week or so, my 220 ed was only ever botted once....

"dont bot for a week or so"? Do you really think in a week or so Cipsoft will stop to delete people? Maybe they will but it won't be because they stopped looking for botters (why would they?) but because they need some more time to track down the botters. So botting in the times with less bans/deletion is just giving evidences to cipsoft about your botted chars.

Simply don't bot chars you dont want to lose :)



i have theory that if u buying ur premium via ur visa they might hold you even if they know ur bot
many of my friends around getting deleted and even these who bot on same place as me and even less than me getting deleted i ask few of them are u using ur visa to purchase pacc or u getting scroll almost all takin scroll so unlikely me cip dont make straight profit from this players and they might know i am botting i am being reported for sure on my ek but still i didnt get deleted, im not botting like hell im watching chars uptime time but i have 2 acc's premium and few times i wasted stamina like hell 22/24 but im trying to be fair with humanlike uptime so it might be way for serious one botters ppl try it use ur main wisely buy pacc by ur visa and when u mass botting 10 accs use some real mask like proper proxy or ibvpn whatever and check it out
this fuckers care about money only and most non botters bring this money for them so when they see u pay we let u play i know botters bring this tibia market alive but doesnt matter they will never erase all and ppl who pay from pocket are happy that they see cip doin something with that all makes sense


that doesnt make sense at all, Visa and other credit cards aren't liked by the shops/sellers since they need to pay the %s of the revenue to Visa, Mastercard, Amex etc. So cipsoft rather hates ppl using credit cards as payment method.

[ljn]

can anyone confirm the time of day they got deleted? was it during cip open hours?

I got deleted around 21.30 so... what time do they close?

Other 2 accs of mine were deleted at 17.00 and around 9 am (my PC was even off when they deleted this)

[sausting]

confirm they delete online/offline no difference

[ending]

This night I was deleted on 1 of my 5 accounts. 95 ek botted from around lvl 65 only on facc ab'dendriel orc fortress. I was using Infernal Bolt's script.

[lonatic]

Banned today on 1 account 195 EK 104 ED, I think its possible due to a miss spelling in my healer the other day, My char died whilt exhausted from spamming Exura sio yolo magic instead of exura sio "yolo magic

All other accounts fine. Facc cash holder still fine.

[Nara]

Just realized that i got deleted on my 124 knight today, i can´t even log in on tibia.com with it xD I was botting that char at venore coryms for about 2 weeks. 1 of 3 accounts deleted so far :P

[kimpan1337]

I have never got deleted lol, if you want to cheat then cheat nice :p

[lonatic]

Haha and another just vanished infront me :D It was only 1 day prem left on that fucker tho lol.

I just hope my holder dont go :D So far total loss is only 2 softys

[lonatic]

Ive just checked my guild and half are gone, Looks like its the end of the botting era for us all

[NeeP]

Ive just checked my guild and half are gone, Looks like its the end of the botting era for us all

well botting free acc noob chars won't ever die out: it's free, you get profit, you dont need good eq :P

[Nippe]

well botting free acc noob chars won't ever die out: it's free, you get profit, you dont need good eq :P

Still going strong after 8 days with VPN. 5 accounts with 4 knights on each acc, all lvl 50 going 24/7.

Will see how long it takes this time.

[dnalyks]

I am 100% sure gms are back now,

I exchanged an acc yesterday and put my new acc on bot on the same night. The new acc was never botted just for that 1 night and I logged in to a 'This character doesn't exist'. Also 3/4 of the guild I was in was getting banned. We went from 30 members to like 10 members in 3-5 days. So watch out :) Im not botting any accounts for some time

[skinnyboy]

im 100% sure they ban people who cheat, NOW MATHER WHAT you will someday get deleted if you continue using a bot, that im sure off, but when it happens makes diffrence, and older accounts which bought ALOT of pacc without scrolls = never banned (deleted) new ones goes like butter!

[Perelman]

Still going strong after 8 days with VPN. 5 accounts with 4 knights on each acc, all lvl 50 going 24/7.

Will see how long it takes this time.

This is enough proof to show that they just go after flagged IPs that they've banned.

USE VPN PEOPLE.

[sausting]

I am always interested in seeing proof.

edit : now thats interesting hugo9999

[svennn]

This is enough proof to show that they just go after flagged IPs that they've banned.

USE VPN PEOPLE.

This doesn't prove anything. If you think it does, you're ignorant. I do however agree that using VPN might make you safer. If you keep botting for an extended period of time with VPN you will however still get banned.

[HjugO]

Look at this:
http://tpforums.org/forum/threads/6188-Concerning-the-new-login-packet-of-update-10-61-Bot-detection?p=54409&viewfull=1#post54409

Simple math: Your Graphic Card + Your IP Adress = DELETERA for whole characters even for not botting characters, so VPN is the best way, if you connect every single Tibias with every single different IP you should be more "protected", but I never used advanced VPN servers, so I don't know if it would be possible - I mean assign every TibiaClient with different IP.

[raiQi]

Look at this:
http://tpforums.org/forum/threads/6188-Concerning-the-new-login-packet-of-update-10-61-Bot-detection?p=54409&viewfull=1#post54409

Simple math: Your Graphic Card + Your IP Adress = DELETERA for whole characters even for not botting characters, so VPN is the best way, if you connect every single Tibias with every single different IP you should be more "protected", but I never used advanced VPN servers, so I don't know if it would be possible - I mean assign every TibiaClient with different IP.
I've never seen a vpn client that is able to do that at least.

[Nippe]

10 days, no bans. VPN is clearly the reason why I have not been banned yet, before I switched it on all of my accounts was deleted, both old ones and new ones(even 5 accounts that was only 12-16 hours old, all prem).

All accounts have been running 23hours, 40minutes every single day, serversave-serversave.

On each account there are 4 knights, all level 50.

I am changing IP-adress 2-4 times each day.

[soul4soul]

10 days, no bans. VPN is clearly the reason why I have not been banned yet, before I switched it on all of my accounts was deleted, both old ones and new ones(even 5 accounts that was only 12-16 hours old, all prem).

All accounts have been running 23hours, 40minutes every single day, serversave-serversave.

On each account there are 4 knights, all level 50.

I am changing IP-adress 2-4 times each day.
Just got kicks to see if they are really monitoring your IP make 1x more new account and bot it on your PC. If what you say is true it should be deleted fairly quick.

[Tripkip]

When do people finaly understand. that no matter what the fk you do or how you bot, or how much premium u pay, how many different ip's you got, everyone has the same risk of getting deleted.

I've botted shitloads of chars from lvl 0-400 and higher some of em got deleted and some didnt, used the same scripts for all of em, same ip, same reg, never bought premium for rl cash for any of em.

Its just a big lottery, if you're lucky you'll last for years, if you're unlucky you'll last a few days.

1. their tool isnt automatic, yes they might gather data automaticly but they delete manually, why else do we have to write fkn report of botters?
2. if vpn's, buying premium yourself, different account registration etc would actually help, then why are they deleting cash accounts, unregisterend accounts and so on?
3. Discuss all you want, you must be prety fkn blind if you still can't see they just randomly delete people that bot or seem to bot (REAL casino's for example)

and yes oviously botting 4 ek's on 1 account in 1 spawn or going around yalahar yelling im a botter, or letting a bot yell casino: high low all the time highers the chance of getting the deleted as its easyer to gather data/proof against these accounts. and even then they might last longer them someone elses main account that has been botting in fkn desert quest slimes and orcs (its a joke, nobody bots/comes there).

[balla]

Look at that guy from antiica he was deleted 3 times just because he was hosting a legit casino he got undeleted all those times cip obviously was on a hidden character just trying to delete all the bot dicers spamming I believe cip manually deletes players you get enough reports cip will probably come check you they probably come can come invisible or they just check on a regular looking character

[Relius]

Look at that guy from antiica he was deleted 3 times just because he was hosting a legit casino he got undeleted all those times cip obviously was on a hidden character just trying to delete all the bot dicers spamming I believe cip manually deletes players you get enough reports cip will probably come check you they probably come can come invisible or they just check on a regular looking character

He was probably detected multiple times by Cip's spam detection tool. When you say certain keywords for several minutes, you get instantly deleted. Mendeel was advertising his casino like bots do. That's why he gets deleted and then resurected. Tested by people on iBot forums.

Btw, I got 3 corym accounts deleted in last couple of days. Already created 8 more. Not gonna surrender without a fight.

[iMike]

It really amazes me how I've only had a ban since 2010 which was obviously a bot (casino), I used even Magebot and my accounts are still flying around ...

[jollebollen]

I have never been deleted in my life. Always botted 2 accounts, both are very old.. Botting since 7.6era. I bot almost 24/h and afk.

[jnissen]

I got delited on my 70 knight using a script of infernal bolt at venore elves. Only a few hours a day on a not so populated server :S! Anyone knows why? It was registered etc.

[jnissen]

jollebollen, where do you bot then? And on what lvl chars? Who's scripts are you using?

[jnissen]

Seems like cip is doing something different getting a bunch of us delited... Whats going on?? DarkstaR

[sausting]

I got delited on my 70 knight using a script of infernal bolt at venore elves. Only a few hours a day on a not so populated server :S! Anyone knows why? It was registered etc.

the reason why you were deleted is because you were cheating.

[raiQi]

the reason why you were deleted is because you were cheating.
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[hakujewas]

10 days, no bans. VPN is clearly the reason why I have not been banned yet, before I switched it on all of my accounts was deleted, both old ones and new ones(even 5 accounts that was only 12-16 hours old, all prem).

All accounts have been running 23hours, 40minutes every single day, serversave-serversave.

On each account there are 4 knights, all level 50.

I am changing IP-adress 2-4 times each day.

Could you pm me with vpn provider name? Thanks

[jollebollen]

jollebollen, where do you bot then? And on what lvl chars? Who's scripts are you using?

I bot seriously everywhere highest lvl 300ISH on both accs used everybody scripts almost lol both free and paid :P

[Relius]

New discovery!

As I said, I created 8 new accounts. Every account from different IP. Six of them were created on 20 minutemail. The others were made on legit mails (hotmail, gmail). Accounts from 20minutemail went to deletera 40 hours later. The ones from Gmails are alright. All Accounts used the same scripts and I was very carefull with them. Now I am gonna create 6 accounts using proper mails.

Edit: One of deleted accounts was never botted at all! You mad Cip?

[FlashPointx]

Deleted.

[sausting]

3 more accounts deleted, 10 this month, 18 since october

[sausting]

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[Giefstockis]

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18 this month, 36 since end of october

Well thoose accnames just asking to get deleted. Btw did you use legit emails to make thoose accounts or just a tenminute mail? Also did you register the account with real information?

[Ryszard]

Around 100 people deleted on my world since yesterday o.o

[alpha90]

A lot of new accounts deleted yesterday in Quilia

[muncher1]

I have a question has anyone thought maybe they are targeting those players who have multiple accounts ahead of those who only bot a single account? Just a thought as I know all who bot find there way to deleted anyway but wonder if cip isn't trying to cut down on the farming or at least those they suspect of farming either to sell or trade for premmy scrolls? This is just a thought im kind of of the opinion that manually hunting from 30 to 60 is non human behavior and they should be the ones getting banned might have time to get a life then.

[LE4Dan]

maybe they are concerned with companies/china farmers botting mass accounts to sell gold. Not sure if they make all there account numbers similar or even bot but i'm sure Cipsoft are concerned with them one way or another.

[Nippe]

Still going strong with the 5 new accounts, 18 days since I created them today.

Still changing IP 2 times a day.

Getting 500k / 24h on retro atm, this is making me rich.

[velocity]

Knock on wood, I'm still going strong botting afk on my main. I don't bot moneymakers as I can't be bothered, I've bought some of the mounts/outfits, always bought my own premium with real money... My brother also bots his main afk on same IP address, similar story to mine. Hoping deletera never comes, but I can't be bothered to manual a character so I take the chance.

[jnissen]

another 3 accs of mine got wiped away.... Cip is really improving their tool :/?

[NeeP]

Knock on wood, I'm still going strong botting afk on my main. I don't bot moneymakers as I can't be bothered, I've bought some of the mounts/outfits, always bought my own premium with real money... My brother also bots his main afk on same IP address, similar story to mine. Hoping deletera never comes, but I can't be bothered to manual a character so I take the chance.

this buying own premium with real money doesnt matter, my old main, 220 rp, was always premmied via premium time from site and I still got deleted. Idk who spread this rumour but it isn't true.
If you continue like that, you'll be deleted within a few weeks, just saying. If you cant be bothered to be manual and still wanna play tibia, stop botting and enjoy your char at the current lvl. I suppose you mean the buyable outfits/mounts from tibia.com that you bought. Nothing against you, no offense but it's kinda stupid to put so much rl cash into it and then botting the acc like there's no tomorrow and getting deleted soon (which is a fact you cant evade, the times where you could bot without ever getting deleted are definitely gone). Just a waste of cash.

[raiQi]

this buying own premium with real money doesnt matter, my old main, 220 rp, was always premmied via premium time from site and I still got deleted. Idk who spread this rumour but it isn't true.
If you continue like that, you'll be deleted within a few weeks, just saying. If you cant be bothered to be manual and still wanna play tibia, stop botting and enjoy your char at the current lvl. I suppose you mean the buyable outfits/mounts from tibia.com that you bought. Nothing against you, no offense but it's kinda stupid to put so much rl cash into it and then botting the acc like there's no tomorrow and getting deleted soon (which is a fact you cant evade, the times where you could bot without ever getting deleted are definitely gone). Just a waste of cash.
You can still bot and never get deleted. Cipsoft still sucks at banning botters. They always have, they always will.

[velocity]

this buying own premium with real money doesnt matter, my old main, 220 rp, was always premmied via premium time from site and I still got deleted. Idk who spread this rumour but it isn't true.
If you continue like that, you'll be deleted within a few weeks, just saying. If you cant be bothered to be manual and still wanna play tibia, stop botting and enjoy your char at the current lvl. I suppose you mean the buyable outfits/mounts from tibia.com that you bought. Nothing against you, no offense but it's kinda stupid to put so much rl cash into it and then botting the acc like there's no tomorrow and getting deleted soon (which is a fact you cant evade, the times where you could bot without ever getting deleted are definitely gone). Just a waste of cash.

Ok I didn't mean buying premium and the bought outfits and mounts would protect me from deletera, but I would like to believe it helps.

I very well could be banned in a few weeks, and I very well could still have my account five years from now.

What I do with my money is really none of your concern, but thanks for the unnecessary input.

I don't want to be banned but I came to the conclusion that I can't be bothered to manual so either I quit or I keep botting. The choice was obvious for me.

[NeeP]

You can still bot and never get deleted. Cipsoft still sucks at banning botters. They always have, they always will.

this is why every day tons of high lvls getting deleted. in the past this may be true cuz they needed cash income, but since they make more profit with the higher premium prices and less costs due to reduction of rented servers they can afford of banning more botters. It's simple economic thoughts. Flaming cipsoft like a 15 year old teenie doesn't help you. I mean I'm not against botting but against main char botting...

[raiQi]

this is why every day tons of high lvls getting deleted. in the past this may be true cuz they needed cash income, but since they make more profit with the higher premium prices and less costs due to reduction of rented servers they can afford of banning more botters. It's simple economic thoughts. Flaming cipsoft like a 15 year old teenie doesn't help you. I mean I'm not against botting but against main char botting...
Fine. Let's take my home world, Rowana as an example.
Players above level 200 banned in the last seven days:1.
But sure, keep believing that Cip is banning so many botters.:rolleyes:

Players deleted on Rowana today: 10
New chars on Rowana today: 120.

Good job cipsoft.

[Weathercock]

this is why every day tons of high lvls getting deleted. in the past this may be true cuz they needed cash income, but since they make more profit with the higher premium prices and less costs due to reduction of rented servers they can afford of banning more botters. It's simple economic thoughts. Flaming cipsoft like a 15 year old teenie doesn't help you. I mean I'm not against botting but against main char botting...
From my point of view, it didn't seem like he was flaming CipSoft. Just making an honest observation. I literally saw a guy on one of the servers I bot on get teleported mid-hunt on a level 8 last night. I think there's a way higher chance of getting deleted on a new character. I feel like Cip just wants to nip it in the bud from the start (brand new accounts). I just think that's their main focus right now. And when you say velocity is at high risk botting his main, it doesn't matter. If you're running a Trolls script for 30 minutes a day, you're still at risk, imo. No one's safe right now. I've just been botting like 4 hours max a day lately. Been trying to lay for for a little bit. But dude, let him spend his money the way he wants. No sense criticizing him over it.

[NeeP]

Fine. Let's take my home world, Rowana as an example.
Players above level 200 banned in the last seven days:1.
But sure, keep believing that Cip is banning so many botters.:rolleyes:

Players deleted on Rowana today: 10
New chars on Rowana today: 120.

Good job cipsoft.

oh really? taking 1 server as example is not speaking statistically. So why is this thread being created? Why did players complain they got deleted on every char and even on chars they newly created after few hours of botting? Every damn noob can see if someone is a botter or not. So why can't cipsoft?

[raiQi]

oh really? taking 1 server as example is not speaking statistically. So why is this thread being created? Why did players complain they got deleted on every char and even on chars they newly created after few hours of botting? Every damn noob can see if someone is a botter or not. So why can't cipsoft?
There has always been people getting deleted, people got deleted 4 years ago, people are getting deleted now. Nothing has changed.
Me and all my friends and guild mates are still botting mains and barely anyone is getting deleted.

[iMike]

Still going strong with the 5 new accounts, 18 days since I created them today.

Still changing IP 2 times a day.

Getting 500k / 24h on retro atm, this is making me rich.
500k/day?! how?! ._.

[jnissen]

Cip is really picking up on this delition thing. Lost another 2 acc's.... like wtf??? Even high lvl's that haven't logged in ages...

Example:


Player Level World Last Login Deleted at
(*) Shaniqua 317 Amera Nov 16 2014 19:01:21 Nov 19 2014



Daily History (# Days Ago)
SERVER O/L LINK CHARACTER
GUILD VOC LVL MONTH
TOTAL LAST
WEEK 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 TODAY
Amera Submit Shaniqua
EK 317 1h
15m 0h
15m 0h
0m 0h
15m 0h
0m 0h
0m 0h
0m 0h
0m 0h
0m 0h
0m

sry for the shitty copy paste, hope I made sense.... wtf is going on :|

[Stusse]

Cip is really picking up on this delition thing. Lost another 2 acc's.... like wtf??? Even high lvl's that haven't logged in ages...

Example:


Player Level World Last Login Deleted at
(*) Shaniqua 317 Amera Nov 16 2014 19:01:21 Nov 19 2014



Daily History (# Days Ago)
SERVER O/L LINK CHARACTER
GUILD VOC LVL MONTH
TOTAL LAST
WEEK 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 TODAY
Amera Submit Shaniqua
EK 317 1h
15m 0h
15m 0h
0m 0h
15m 0h
0m 0h
0m 0h
0m 0h
0m 0h
0m 0h
0m

sry for the shitty copy paste, hope I made sense.... wtf is going on :|
They see you bot to little so there's no point in not banning you :)

/Stusse

[jnissen]

isnt botted in months...

[Tripkip]

ITS A BIG FKN LOTTERY, NOW STFU

[Skub]

uhm, u guys think that mostly low lvls, or free acounts are del? it seems to me like that, cip does not rly luse money if he dell a acount that wont be pacc at all

[Evancion]

uhm, u guys think that mostly low lvls, or free acounts are del? it seems to me like that, cip does not rly luse money if he dell a acount that wont be pacc at all

It has been proven thousands and thousands of times that premium accounts are being deleted.
Stop this "CipSoft only delete free accounts because they don't want to lose money" bullshit.

They may delete free accounts more frequently, but that doesn't mean they don't delete premium accounts.

[floripaxx]

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ITS A BIG FKN LOTTERY, NOW STFU

[maroxy]

Why you all complain?

You have got a fucking bot, use it.

If l get deleted I create 2 accounts more.

Don't qq more please.

[sausting]

Why you all complain?

You have got a fucking bot, use it.

If l get deleted I create 2 accounts more.

Don't qq more please.
its more like information pooling. Its like I know whats happening to me, and you know whats happening to you, but if we use this fancy forum - we know whats happening to each other !

[raiQi]

its more like information pooling. Its like I know whats happening to me, and you know whats happening to you, but if we use this fancy forum - we know whats happening to each other !
Ignorance is bliss.

[skurwysyn]

Guys, do you know if there is any programm that changes your ip for every tibia client? So it makes us undetectable, and impossible to get banned on all account by ip.

[Coupa]

You bot, you run the risk of deletion, no matter what. Dont want deleted? dont bot, simple! else just bot and if you get deleted then make a new account haha! aint like you done the work anyways ;D

[pajfest]

Has anyone gotten deleted just using healer from the bot?