Is XenoBot a good bot for scripters?

[Nakuu]

Dear DarkstaR, moderators and XenoBot community,

1) Recently we at SolidScripts and more people have noticed our scripts being shared amongs users and even * on XenoBot. Some people considered 'trusted' or that somewhat have a more responsible state have even proven to share our scripts and even taunt us with it since we can do nothing about it. This has become a huge problem for us, especially as we have a quite big rework ready to be released, but we can't do it because we know what will happen.

We thank our loyal customers that do buy their own scripts instead of sharing them, and we do not thank moderators/higher standard users that do share our scripts (some even on their own website) and taunt us with it.

2) We have been asking DarkstaR for a long time for method to within XenoBot user-lock our scripts without any response. What do you other * think (except from those who are already sharing our works), is it reasonable only one script team should have access to such method? Would it be reasonable that other script services could also use this method in order to maintain the developing of XenoBot scripts and the inspiration to push this bot further? As mentioned before we have a pretty big update almost ready, but we feel very de-motivated releasing it in this state of XenoBot.

We will not and can not keep on developing good quality when we know that sharing is a big problem, especially when we know how easy it is to fix it. One could argue we should fix our own user-lock method, we believe that the only real protection could be through XenoBot. We've been offering to write the algorithm ourself for DarkstaR just to add it, but yet again we have not recieved any message back.

3) We now ask the community's input on this matter, both users' and moderators' and of course DarkstaR's input. If we got access to such lock-system we would be able to push this release, improving the scripts quality and pushing the bot further. We would even be willing (for the community) to lower the prices of each script so more would have the ability to bot properly with XenoBot.

WindBot 3.0 is on the horizon and XenoBot has lately been lacking improvements or listening to the voice of the community or the scripters who actually push this bot forward. This is no offense to you DarkstaR, we know you have a lot going on outside XenoBot, but we simply care about XenoBot. What's going to happen if all scripters get de-motivated due to people and even * sharing their scripts? There is an alternative platform where all script services are equal and there will soon be a 3.0 version of that bot. Listening to the scripters suggestions in how to make better scripts for the users is of our point essential.

Yet again this is merely a friendly suggestion for us to keep motivated, for the users to have reliable scripts to use with the bot, and for XenoBot to be developing further. We know there are more scripting services out there, and we really want to make the scripting service market equal in order to push the bot further. Fair competition is good for the developing.

Community, moderators, users: What is your input? Would you want to see user-lock as a motivation for scripters to make more advanced and stable scripts? Do you think this should be available only for DarkstaR's own scripting service or for all scripting services that applies for it? Do you think an equal competition amongs scripters are good for the bot, or do you rather want the polarized option where one have monopoly, de-motivating the others?

This petition was written and applied by:

Sincerely,
SolidScripts.

[Y2Quakepc2]

Agreed and signed on this.

It would just make the bot better, and i like this bot, sorry, i don't only like it, i love it so much that the only thing i with is it gets improved itself.

This is a valid point that every old member in-forums with a little of intelligence been analyzing for quite a while, and i've even made my own threads referring this exposed situation.

Good luck with this and i'd like to see nicks words

[maroxy]

I sign it.

[Xeromex]

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[Tripkip]

I couldnt agree more! Altho is some way sharing scripts and free scripts also keeps the bot alive. Witouth pro scripters such as solid scripts, that provides the majority of the community with scripts that actually work. xenobot wouldnt have been where it is now.

[Nakuu]

I couldnt agree more! Altho is some way sharing scripts and free scripts also keeps the bot alive. Witouth pro scripters such as solid scripts, that provides the majority of the community with scripts that actually work. xenobot wouldnt have been where it is now.

Yup, although if we had the real protection of sharing we'd be willing more to release more free scripts and/or reduce the prices of current ones so it's a win-win situation I think ;)

[Joey]

Sharing is caring :confused:



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[Merked]

Sharing is caring :confused:



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+1 aspokaspokaspok

[raiQi]

We will not and can not keep on developing good quality.



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[Joey]

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[Joshwa534]

I won't write too much here but there's only one moderator and one admin in the so-called Skype chat you're talking about. At least the one you accused me of in your PM. Neither of us own a single Solid Script file thus being impossible to share them. There are some people that share scripts, mine included, but what are you expecting to happen? I cannot ban them via Skype and I don't know who half of the people in the Skype group.

You can be disappointed all you want but when I confronted you directly on Skype before about username locking your scripts and using better encryption, you claimed you have no desire to ever username lock your scripts and did not care if people shared them. That was just a few months ago, have things changed? If so, there's a function: getUserName() - its been available for over a year, use it.

That's just my 2 cents, don't ever accuse me of sharing your shit again.

[Nakuu]

If you can stop being a kid and don't post if you do have nothing constructive to say that would be great. If you are acting like a child on serious matters I instantly I assume you are the one who shares the scripts and are just against the protection.

[Joey]

If you can stop being a kid and don't post if you do have nothing constructive to say that would be great. If you are acting like a child on serious matters I instantly I assume you are the one who shares the scripts and are just against the protection.

Nah that would be me

[kimse]

If XB doesn't have a feature that prevents sharing, how come both JX and 4Pan develop scripts that prevents their scripts from being shared?

Food for thought.

[raiQi]

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Problem solved?? Everybody happy?

[Nakuu]

I won't write too much here but there's only one moderator and one admin in the so-called Skype chat you're talking about. At least the one you accused me of in your PM. Neither of us own a single Solid Script file thus being impossible to share them. There are some people that share scripts, mine included, but what are you expecting to happen? I cannot ban them via Skype and I don't know who half of the people in the Skype group.

You can be disappointed all you want but when I confronted you directly on Skype before about username locking your scripts and using better encryption, you claimed you have no desire to ever username lock your scripts and did not care if people shared them. That was just a few months ago, have things changed? If so, there's a function: getUserName() - its been available for over a year, use it.

That's just my 2 cents, don't ever accuse me of sharing your shit again.
I didn't you accused for shit, just asked nicely but seems like you don't hide with this anymore. Anyway, if obfuscation is so good why don't you use it yourself?


If XB doesn't have a feature that prevents sharing, how come both JX and 4Pan develop scripts that prevents their scripts from being shared?

Food for thought.

Which can be easily decrypted and all it takes is just one kid with no life who cares enough to do that. Also I got some real stuff going on that I care about more so I ain't got time for finding the ways to protect my scripts if there is already one that DarkstaR won't share except his rl friend, lol. Seems legit.

[Pietro1906]

Which can be easily decrypted and all it takes is just one kid with no life who cares enough to do that.

Honestly that's all it takes to decrypt/hack/crack/break anything.

Welcome to the internet.

[Nakuu]

Thank you for your opinion, Rydan. One of few mature people here :)

[Pietro1906]

Thank you for your opinion, Rydan. One of few mature people here :)

Apparently you have to support Nakuu's opinion to be mature.

Oh and since you keep bringing up that topic, here's a quote from a guy much smarter than me.


“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” -- C.S. Lewis

[Nakuu]

Apparently you have to support Nakuu's opinion to be mature.

No, just look at his post and yours. Do you see a difference?

[nuub]

Apparently you have to support Nakuu's opinion to be mature.
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[Stusse]

If XB doesn't have a feature that prevents sharing, how come both JX and 4Pan develop scripts that prevents their scripts from being shared?

Food for thought.
To reflect on raiQi comment as well;

How 4Pan uses I have no experience from, all we believe is that the real and only encryption should be through XenoBot if it is available, which it is, at least for one service. Encrypting it externally would only make 4Pan decrypt our scripts and release them for free on his website as he did before.

JX uses the .xblua extension that is generated through XenoBot. Works as its own encryption, which is only available for their service. Although inactivity for almost two months responding to customers doesnt seem to affect em'.

Hope I answered your question
/Stusse

[shadowart]

I don't see why anyone being able to encrypt their script would be much of an issue. Yes, they can release bad code. But that's the same risk you take every single time you download any program from the internet. You simply have to take the the authors reputation in account before you make up your mind whether to buy or not.

[Elvang]

My person opinion:

Don't know enough about the topic to have any valid input.

[Y2Quakepc2]

I don't see why anyone being able to encrypt their script would be much of an issue. Yes, they can release bad code. But that's the same risk you take every single time you download any program from the internet. You simply have to take the the authors reputation in account before you make up your mind whether to buy or not.

if there was a reputation/point system i'd give you all my points

[draadloos]

I don't see why anyone being able to encrypt their script would be much of an issue. Yes, they can release bad code. But that's the same risk you take every single time you download any program from the internet. You simply have to take the the authors reputation in account before you make up your mind whether to buy or not.

agreed

[Wovimus]

I don't see why anyone being able to encrypt their script would be much of an issue. Yes, they can release bad code. But that's the same risk you take every single time you download any program from the internet. You simply have to take the the authors reputation in account before you make up your mind whether to buy or not.

I sign in your opinion and Rydan 's one, also agree with mostly Nakuu said.

I can not demand anything cause I've been semi-inactive for almost a year and my service is behind. But now I'm back and I'm trying to learn all the updates and new things in order to improve my scripts wich I'm already doing.

Participate in the built-in encryption would motivate me alot.

[ppgab]

My opinion on this has changed a couple of times, but the truth is, i think all scripts should be free and open source, the only business here is owned by darkstar.

[Apotheosis]

Signed.... You know I'll keep buying your scripts no matter what :D. Just keep the ek/rp scripts coming :D

[Syntax]

For the longest time JXScripts was using obfuscation to protect it's scripts using getUserName().
There was a major decline in script sharing when it was introduced, near none.
It's impossible to negate all sharing, even with encryption.

1. Read a fucking book.
2. Use getUserName().
3. Stop using the current piss poor obfuscation technique everyone is using and come up with your own.
4. Compile to bytecode and strip debug information

Yes, WindBot has functions that XenoBot doesn't have. Yes, they would be great to have. Yes, most of them you can make on your own in the meantime.
If you really can't live without the function and you can't make it, go to WindBot.
XenoBot has enough capabilities to make great scripts as long as you take the time to do it.
If you copy and paste community scripts together into a barely working pile of shit, then yes it won't work as great as you want.
I've seen your code, it's garbage, don't complain about something you barely know how to scratch the surface of.


Is Xenobot a good bot for experienced scripters?
Yes.

Is Xenobot a good bot for beginner scripters?
Somewhat. It's definitely a learning curve. http://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html


I don't see why anyone being able to encrypt their script would be much of an issue. Yes, they can release bad code. But that's the same risk you take every single time you download any program from the internet. You simply have to take the the authors reputation in account before you make up your mind whether to buy or not.
So there are programs out there with bad code and compiled so you can't tell, so you think scripts should be the same. How does that make sense.

[Nakuu]

For the longest time JXScripts was using obfuscation to protect it's scripts using getUserName().
There was a major decline in script sharing when it was introduced, near none.
It's impossible to negate all sharing, even with encryption.

1. Read a fucking book.
2. Use getUserName().
3. Stop using the current piss poor obfuscation technique everyone is using and come up with your own.
4. Compile to bytecode and strip debug information

Yes, WindBot has functions that XenoBot doesn't have. Yes, they would be great to have. Yes, most of them you can make on your own in the meantime.
If you really can't live without the function and you can't make it, go to WindBot.
XenoBot has enough capabilities to make great scripts as long as you take the time to do it.
If you copy and paste community scripts together into a barely working pile of shit, then yes it won't work as great as you want.
I've seen your code, it's garbage, don't complain about something you barely know how to scratch the surface of.


Is Xenobot a good bot for experienced scripters?
Yes.

Is Xenobot a good bot for beginner scripters?
Somewhat. It's definitely a learning curve. http://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html

Really nice post :)

1. I probably have read more books last year than you ever had in your hands :)
2. No shit, Sherlock.
3. How about, it's not the point of this thread?
4. Ok, so that's what you do and that's why you had to ask DarkstaR for .xblua

Who copies community scripts? Rofl, the only think I copied was ReachDepot because it was actually quite fine.
Whose code you call garbage? I am not sure but I think it's your code that has the most problems and most bugs reported and please, don't tell me it's because you have more customers because you probably don't (at least not anymore). If your code is so perfect what you had to switch from your own shooter to XB? Yeah, it's probably better but yours was garbage. Of coruse my shooter is not better than XB's but it's actually not that bad... at least for those who don't have shitty PCs.

Anyway, thanks for your post, had a good laugh. I think you are #1 on my least respected people list on this forum - being an Admin, abusing your position for your own profit, well played, really well played.

[fenol]

https://i.imgflip.com/gjnyy.jpg

Hahahahahahaha true story


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hahahahahaha true story


Dear DarkstaR, moderators and XenoBot community,

1) Recently we at SolidScripts and more people have noticed our scripts being shared amongs users and even moderators on XenoBot. Some people considered 'trusted' or that somewhat have a more responsible state have even proven to share our scripts and even taunt us with it since we can do nothing about it. This has become a huge problem for us, especially as we have a quite big rework ready to be released, but we can't do it because we know what will happen.

We thank our loyal customers that do buy their own scripts instead of sharing them, and we do not thank moderators/higher standard users that do share our scripts (some even on their own website) and taunt us with it.

2) We have been asking DarkstaR for a long time for method to within XenoBot user-lock our scripts without any response. What do you other moderators think (except from those who are already sharing our works), is it reasonable only one script team should have access to such method? Would it be reasonable that other script services could also use this method in order to maintain the developing of XenoBot scripts and the inspiration to push this bot further? As mentioned before we have a pretty big update almost ready, but we feel very de-motivated releasing it in this state of XenoBot.

We will not and can not keep on developing good quality when we know that sharing is a big problem, especially when we know how easy it is to fix it. One could argue we should fix our own user-lock method, we believe that the only real protection could be through XenoBot. We've been offering to write the algorithm ourself for DarkstaR just to add it, but yet again we have not recieved any message back.

3) We now ask the community's input on this matter, both users' and moderators' and of course DarkstaR's input. If we got access to such lock-system we would be able to push this release, improving the scripts quality and pushing the bot further. We would even be willing (for the community) to lower the prices of each script so more would have the ability to bot properly with XenoBot.

WindBot 3.0 is on the horizon and XenoBot has lately been lacking improvements or listening to the voice of the community or the scripters who actually push this bot forward. This is no offense to you DarkstaR, we know you have a lot going on outside XenoBot, but we simply care about XenoBot. What's going to happen if all scripters get de-motivated due to people and even moderators sharing their scripts? There is an alternative platform where all script services are equal and there will soon be a 3.0 version of that bot. Listening to the scripters suggestions in how to make better scripts for the users is of our point essential.

Yet again this is merely a friendly suggestion for us to keep motivated, for the users to have reliable scripts to use with the bot, and for XenoBot to be developing further. We know there are more scripting services out there, and we really want to make the scripting service market equal in order to push the bot further. Fair competition is good for the developing.

Community, moderators, users: What is your input? Would you want to see user-lock as a motivation for scripters to make more advanced and stable scripts? Do you think this should be available only for DarkstaR's own scripting service or for all scripting services that applies for it? Do you think an equal competition amongs scripters are good for the bot, or do you rather want the polarized option where one have monopoly, de-motivating the others?

This petition was written and applied by:

Sincerely,
SolidScripts.

Since im one of the people in that skype group and one of the most active people there let me clarify some stuff for you and rest on this forum

Your scripts are Laughed at in that group and NOONE wants to HAVE them (Solidshit) , i am not amongst those who share them not do i want them and there is way 2 many people that would agree on that

now to the other matter at hand , getFuckingUserName()
!!!!!!! if JX are using it and it stopped "sharing" for them it should stop it for you to , if some nolife kid wanted to "CRACK" it they would CRACK THEIRS OVER YOURS just for logical reasons , Now stop this bullshit post and Darkstar wont do shit about shit thats why this bot is dieing and gettin rekt by all the other bots out there .

Sandnegro out Peace.

[Nakuu]

Hahahahahahaha true story



hahahahahaha true story



Since im one of the people in that skype group and one of the most active people there let me clarify some stuff for you and rest on this forum

Your scripts are Laughed at in that group and NOONE wants to HAVE them (Solidshit) , i am not amongst those who share them not do i want them and there is way 2 many people that would agree on that

now to the other matter at hand , getFuckingUserName()
!!!!!!! if JX are using it and it stopped "sharing" for them it should stop it for you to , if some nolife kid wanted to "CRACK" it they would CRACK THEIRS OVER YOURS just for logical reasons , Now stop this bullshit post and Darkstar wont do shit about shit thats why this bot is dieing and gettin rekt by all the other bots out there .

Sandnegro out Peace.

You have no idea what you are talking about so just don't waste my time and do not quote me.

[Syntax]

Really nice post :)

1. I probably have read more books last year than you ever had in your hands :)
2. No shit, Sherlock.
3. How about, it's not the point of this thread?
4. Ok, so that's what you do and that's why you had to ask DarkstaR for .xblua

Who copies community scripts? Rofl, the only think I copied was ReachDepot because it was actually quite fine.
Whose code you call garbage? I am not sure but I think it's your code that has the most problems and most bugs reported and please, don't tell me it's because you have more customers because you probably don't (at least not anymore). If your code is so perfect what you had to switch from your own shooter to XB? Yeah, it's probably better but yours was garbage. Of coruse my shooter is not better than XB's but it's actually not that bad... at least for those who don't have shitty PCs.

Anyway, thanks for your post, had a good laugh. I think you are #1 on my least respected people list on this forum - being an Admin, abusing your position for your own profit, well played, really well played.


1. Congrats, put it to use.
2. This was directed toward your request for encryption, it's a good alternative.
3. This was also directed towards your request for encryption (most of your post), it is required to effectively use getUserName()
4. JXScripts was using our obfuscation for a very long time with much success. We mainly wanted encryption because we thought obfuscation was slowing down our scripts (turned out to not be the case)

If your scripts aren't copy and pasted together I have less respect for you. I seriously think it's appalling to sell the scripts you do to the public. I wouldn't release a script for free if it had the quality of yours, I would be embarrassed.
You might have more customers now, but they aren't paying customers, please obfuscate your scripts better and lock them. Don't use Dropbox to distribute, it hurts all of us paid scripters.
Our shooter functions better in some situations actually, and JXScripts still uses it (people can use the native shooter if they wish to configure it). However it does draw more power and fights other native bot functions in some instances.
It's not a black & white situation. Don't try to compare code.

Likewise, and I've been helping this community since I got here, before I was admin. You use my functions I made you, you've probably use XenoMap I've made you. I've earned my place here, and just because I can turn a profit doesn't make it abuse.
JXScripts already had a monopoly when I joined, I just made it better.

[fenol]

You have no idea what you are talking about so just don't waste my time and do not quote me.

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just sayin;) if GetUsername is crackable people would crack JX -> yours

[HjugO]

fenol, SolidScripts are pretty good, honestly I've never bought any script (I just tested few free from SS), coz I am pretty good in these cases, but every single programmer wants to earn some money from spending time for creating fucking Walker or LUA scripts, and a lot of guys wants for free, okay we have getUserName() function, but when we obfuscate script (string.dump() method) we got fucking webdings hashtags, but this script is still not encrypted, and we can deobfuscate this (any1 can do this with IQ higher than snake), and whole job is gone, okay some privileged guys have *.xblua encryption, I don't care, example jxscripts, and this DarkstaR magic encryption is still breakable, just gimme PHP code for file encryption, I'll do this, I had a contact with one guy who already made it.

Guys. Look at WindBot, RedBot, iBot or whateva shitty bot, they still don't have file encryption and authors of scripts still have real profit. Ask Eli, BugWT, Garkstal? I don't know excaly who making.

[Unuke12345]

Kinda agree with Nakuu I guess. Not sure why/what all this drama is about but I'm guessings it's some old history...

Anyhow, how do you use getUserName()? Wouldn't you manually have to edit it every time you sell a script or so?

[Stusse]

fenol

If nobody wants our scripts, why are people still coming back to purchasing and why did Furpan release them for free on his website if he thought noone would profit from them? It's fucking embarrassing he only got a fraction for it, I believe if it would have been against another scripting group he would have been banned by now. He is that nolife kid that do de-obfuscate them and release for free. By some reason he did it against us and not JX or any other scripters, even when I asked politely he didn't even give any reason for to do so. About getUserName(), JX are using it, we could be using it, difference it they can protect it through XenoBot we can't. I'm sure Furpan will release them for free even if we remade our obfuscation. Pretty funny how you Joshwa534 is a moderator on XenoBot, you're aware of the problem in the Skype chat and does not a fuck about it. I'm not angry with you Josh u know I aint, I just think perhaps a moderator should take problems seriously when you know that's the case.

"Now stop this bullshit post and Darkstar wont do shit about shit thats why this bot is dieing and gettin rekt by all the other bots out there." -u fkn w0t m9?

Sandnegro out Peace. :rolleyes:

/Stusse

[fenol]

Kinda agree with Nakuu I guess. Not sure why/what all this drama is about but I'm guessings it's some old history...

Anyhow, how do you use getUserName()? Wouldn't you manually have to edit it every time you sell a script or so?

First proximity now this? why are u making scripts bro?




fenol

If nobody wants our scripts, why are people still coming back to purchasing and why did Furpan release them for free on his website if he thought noone would profit from them? It's fucking embarrassing he only got a fraction for it, I believe if it would have been against another scripting group he would have been banned by now. He is that nolife kid that do de-obfuscate them and release for free. By some reason he did it against us and not JX or any other scripters, even when I asked politely he didn't even give any reason for to do so. About getUserName(), JX are using it, we could be using it, difference it they can protect it through XenoBot we can't. I'm sure Furpan will release them for free even if we remade our obfuscation. Pretty funny how you Joshwa534 is a moderator on XenoBot, you're aware of the problem in the Skype chat and does not a fuck about it. I'm not angry with you Josh u know I aint, I just think perhaps a moderator should take problems seriously when you know that's the case.

"Now stop this bullshit post and Darkstar wont do shit about shit thats why this bot is dieing and gettin rekt by all the other bots out there." -u fkn w0t m9?

Sandnegro out Peace. :rolleyes:

/Stusse


If people are coming back and purchasing why are u crying????????????????????????????? Furpan doesnt share nor use your scripts he uses his OWN scripts and i use a few he made they are quite unique and good , back to the josh , He cant do shit cuz he doesnt know 50% of the people in the chat its a random chat , secondly most scripts people share from SS is followed by , WHO DARES TO TRY solidshit? OR 30 min later im still in town resupplying , Just saying
No disrespect to martin (forgee) a good friend of mine , but your lib still have some ctrl+C , Ctrl V from his WW2 lib.

About the u fkn w0t m9;) if uve tried any other tibia bot u know what im talking about ;) not gonna advertise any other bot here on this forum i still like this most of all (for the community&drama) but for my HIGHER lvl chars i use other scripters then those on this forum.


Truly,
SolidScripts

Awards For:
#1 Try-Hard 2014
#1 Fail 2014
#1 Bitching 2014

[Furpan]

Stusse, go back to your hole. I didn't decrypt anything nor are your scripts publicly released, if they are, please provide some evidence where they came from.
What's embarassing is the current code of your library and what Nakku has been writing in our skype chat, there's no way your team of retards would deserve an encryption in any way. If you want one, make one. If you can't, too bad.

And stop bashing me.

[Neverminder]

Just my 2 x 0.01€. Not exactly about the topic, but surely about script purchasing.

Everyone start scripting your scripts on your own. There are tons of threads with very useful information out there, also in the archives.

Yes indeed, it won't happen over night so that you'll be able to script everything you desire, but pratice makes perfect.

1.) Pick a script from huge pile of free scripts floating here on forum.
2.) Study it. What does it do?
3.) Break it down. Study the structure.
4.) Script something similar on your own.
5.) Debug your script.
6.) Tweak it until it's perfect for whatever you want it to do.

Profit?

[fenol]

Just my 2 x 0.01€. Not exactly about the topic, but surely about script purchasing.

Everyone start scripting your scripts on your own. There are tons of threads with very useful information out there, also in the archives.

Yes indeed, it won't happen over night so that you'll be able to script everything you desire, but pratice makes perfect.

1.) Pick a script from huge pile of free scripts floating here on forum.
2.) Study it. What does it do?
3.) Break it down. Study the structure.
4.) Script something similar on your own.
5.) Debug your script.
6.) Tweak it until it's perfect for whatever you want it to do.

Profit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeB3eYk1Ze0 is that you to the left?

[Stusse]

Stusse, go back to your hole. I didn't decrypt anything nor are your scripts publicly released, if they are, please provide some evidence where they came from.
What's embarassing is the current code of your library and what Nakku has been writing in our skype chat, there's no way your team of retards would deserve an encryption in any way. If you want one, make one. If you can't, too bad.

And stop bashing me.
Sorry but I was on christmas holidays when I got knowledge about it, thus the pics from my phone.

http://i.imgur.com/L51r1Hm.png


http://i.imgur.com/yy7bgIF.png


http://i.imgur.com/mDlqShh.png



http://i.imgur.com/HV8BaCz.png


Everything downloadable just with a click, have even pictures of you posting it on Tibiacast and skype convo.

Don't talk shit, you know you're guilty of it.
/Stusse

[Furpan]

Stusse
Can't seem find the link, where is it?
By the looks of it, you haven't even clicked one of those zip packages.

[Nakuu]

Stusse
Can't seem find the link, where is it?
By the looks of it, you haven't even clicked one of those zip packages.

Why do you even deny? DarkstaR knows about that anyway.

[Furpan]

Why do you even deny? DarkstaR knows about that anyway.

Im not denying shit, I'm saying that there are no paid scripts released that you've made, that comes from my site.

Edit;
there are
has been
big difference

[Y2Quakepc2]

I only see a bunch of kids without an objective point regarding what this thread was made for (TO IMPROVE THE BOT OVERALL) supporting JX Scripts

I also see mature people being neutral and supporting Solid Scripts.

Any member here with a minimal intelligence knows that JxScripts have been using their power and their relationship with Nick to make profit for their own, that can't be discussed.

When i wanted to talk about this Syntax even closed my threads.


If this community keeps being mentalized to stuck the progress of this bot and they don't want to see the points behind this thread/petition, then the bot is never going to reach the next lvl.


Windbot has now way more functions than Xenobot (NOW). It will have even more functions when 3.0 is released.

I don't know why you guys instead of listening to the community and the members that have been around for a long long time (im not talking about the scripters, i can't script shit myself for example) keep with this arrogance and mentaility that only stucks the bot. I'll not be the only one leaving to WB if xenobot doesn't keep changing for better, and it will be a hard desicion since i've been using this bot since ever literally.


Anyone who claims Solid Scripts are shit: Well, i've been using them for almost a year now, i never have problems with them and i bot over 100 accounts. Even if the code was shit which i don't know nor is it my concern, who the fuck cares about how professional it is coded if the scripts WORK AWESOMELY WELL for the custommer who buys them.


I'm just really dissapointed about the course xenobot is taking now, aswell as i am dissapointed of OX and what they sold to the community and never accomplished.


Now for anybody wondering if i get paid or something by solid scripts: they never gave me 1 cent but only scripts, and i still support them, even thought i could get access to the scripts in many many different ways. They represent the hard work, they represent the weak scripting team growing up against a monopolized community, they represent the never surrender ideology, and that's the only reason why i support them, i know i wont see a cent from there and i think i've dragged to them more custommers and people than the total value of all the scripts together with all the propaganda i've done in their favour in all of my services + all the people that asks me what scripts to use, im 10000% possitive about this.

Only my personal opinion, i won't answer any kid-hater comment as it doesn't go in an offensive way against anybody.

[Syntax]

I only see a bunch of kids without an objective point regarding what this thread was made for (TO IMPROVE THE BOT OVERALL) supporting JX Scripts

I also see mature people being neutral and supporting Solid Scripts.

Any member here with a minimal intelligence knows that JxScripts have been using their power and their relationship with Nick to make profit for their own, that can't be discussed.

When i wanted to talk about this Syntax even closed my threads.


If this community keeps being mentalized to stuck the progress of this bot and they don't want to see the points behind this thread/petition, then the bot is never going to reach the next lvl.


Windbot has now way more functions than Xenobot (NOW). It will have even more functions when 3.0 is released.

I don't know why you guys instead of listening to the community and the members that have been around for a long long time (im not talking about the scripters, i can't script shit myself for example) keep with this arrogance and mentaility that only stucks the bot. I'll not be the only one leaving to WB if xenobot doesn't keep changing for better, and it will be a hard desicion since i've been using this bot since ever literally.


Anyone who claims Solid Scripts are shit: Well, i've been using them for almost a year now, i never have problems with them and i bot over 100 accounts. Even if the code was shit which i don't know nor is it my concern, who the fuck cares about how professional it is coded if the scripts WORK AWESOMELY WELL for the custommer who buys them.


I'm just really dissapointed about the course xenobot is taking now, aswell as i am dissapointed of OX and what they sold to the community and never accomplished.


Now for anybody wondering if i get paid or something by solid scripts: they never gave me 1 cent but only scripts, and i still support them, even thought i could get access to the scripts in many many different ways. They represent the hard work, they represent the weak scripting team growing up against a monopolized community, they represent the never surrender ideology, and that's the only reason why i support them, i know i wont see a cent from there and i think i've dragged to them more custommers and people than the total value of all the scripts together with all the propaganda i've done in their favour in all of my services + all the people that asks me what scripts to use, im 10000% possitive about this.

Only my personal opinion, i won't answer any kid-hater comment as it doesn't go in an offensive way against anybody.

1) This is a whine thread, pure and simple.
2) People have tried to use logic with you guys, it doesn't work. Don't expect neutral discussions.
3) Link(s) please, if it wasn't justified I'll send you $100.
4) It's not up to the community, it's up to DarkstaR
5) This thread is mainly about encryption, how does that help concerning bot features, no other bot has encryption.

I've already voiced my opinion on the script quality, and I'm sure it's fairly obvious how shit they are.
OX hasn't "sold" anything to the community. It's still in beta, you aren't forced to use it. The concept is there, but it has some issues, sure.
We don't plan on selling any OX scripts until we're out of beta and we're confident that issues have been resolved.

P.S. Do you not have spell-check?

[Nakuu]

1) This is a whine thread, pure and simple.
2) People have tried to use logic with you guys, it doesn't work. Don't expect neutral discussions.
3) Link(s) please, if it wasn't justified I'll send you $100.
4) It's not up to the community, it's up to DarkstaR
5) This thread is mainly about encryption, how does that help concerning bot features, no other bot has encryption.

I've already voiced my opinion on the script quality, and I'm sure it's fairly obvious how shit they are.
OX hasn't "sold" anything to the community. It's still in beta, you aren't forced to use it. The concept is there, but it has some issues, sure.
We don't plan on selling any OX scripts until we're out of beta and we're confident that issues have been resolved.

P.S. Do you not have spell-check?

Whine thread? Ok, whatever you think it is. It's not me who calls other scripts shit but my own. I know there is still a lot to improve and I'd love to do that. I wouldn't even care about encryption at all if not such people as Furpan and few more who doesn't respect other people's work at all.

[DarkstaR]

WindBot 3.0 is on the horizon {...} what's going to happen if all scripters get de-motivated due to people and even moderators sharing their scripts? There is an alternative platform where all script services are equal and there will soon be a 3.0 version of that bot.

This is a bit of a contradictory view. You basically beg for better obfuscation, but you make a back-handed implication that you're willing to move to another bot with NO OBFUSCATION. This leads me to believe that it's not a matter of preserving your own intellectual property, but, instead, a severe case of "they have it, I want it". Now, there's nothing wrong with that attitude, but I wish you'd at least admit that it is your ultimate reason for making this post. (Hint: If its not, then you really have trouble with expressing what you feel.)

I admit, having encryption for JX was a problem, as they were a third-party service like everyone else. Why should they have a privilege? One of the main reason to incorporate Cavitt and Joshwa into OX Scripts was to set a dividing line that says "These scripts have DarkstaR's stamp of approval". The purpose of this partitioning was to make it clear why they were the only group to get encryption: because they are the only group that I can give my approval to. This doesn't mean that I have some inherent bias against you, but more that I have a bias towards trusting Cavitt. That may seem unfair, but he's the only person on this forum who has jumped out of a fucking airplane with me. Yadig?

In comparison, SS is a bunch of people that I have only mild acquaintances with. I know that you, @Nakuu (http://forums.xenobot.net/member.php?u=15142), and your team are dedicated to XenoBot, and I do have respect for that. You maintain the suggestions thread, you're active in the community, and you're pretty chill when you're not talking to Cavitt or Joshwa. But, at the end of the day, there have been millions of people just like me that have given power to millions of people that appeared to have the same genuine intentions as you, and have still been fucked over. There's nothing I have from you guys that says "Nick, you can trust us 100% not to put malicious shit inside of scripts". If I was making this decision at the discretion of my own risk, I'd probably say "sure, I'll give it a shot". But that's not the case. As soon as I decide to let you use xblua, I'm deciding, for everybody on my forum, that you can be trusted. Sure, it's their choice if they want to make a purchase from you, but many XenoBot users don't pay attention to the forum politics, reputations, and what-have-you. They just buy scripts.

As soon as there's no way for some experienced know-it-all like Hugo, 4pan, or Rydan to come along and say "Dude, these scripts are fucking stealing your shit", there's potential for people to get greedy, have their eyes light up with the proverbial dollar signs, and do something sneaky. You might say "but if I wanted to be malicious and steal from people without anybody knowing, I could just obfuscate the scripts myself and make the cod every hard to understand". And that's exactly my point.

[kimse]

@ Above

http://i.imgur.com/xekKC.jpg

[DarkstaR]

Also, in regards to the Furpan issue, I immediately made him take down the listing with the impending threat of a ban. He was also a high recommendation for our next moderator from some of our staff, and the stunt he pulled completely negated any consideration I would have otherwise given him for the position.

In regards to "moderators sharing your code", that's just goddamn bullshit. I've tried to be civil, pragmatic, and professional when addressing this thread, but the line is crossed when you falsely accuse my staff of some bullshit. Cut it the fuck out and edit your retarded posts on the matter.

[Nakuu]

...
Just to clarify I never said I'd move to another bot simply because I don't like them - I don't like the interface, neither I like they way people make scripts there.

Also, sure, It hurts me so much that someone has access to something that helps them a lot just because (as you admitted) he is your rl friend and jumped out of plain with you. Even though it's a little bit unprofessional it's probably the same how I'd act when running such business and my rl friend would be a part of it. Although there are teams that proved enough in my opinion to be trusted enough and this thread was made just to see people's opinions on this subject. Just as I though people who screams the most are the people who gets scripts for free, already left XenoBot and just trolls or are straight JXS Team fans.

Anyway, this thread gave a lot of good things as well - for example Rydan saying he could take take of checking out our scripts etc and I am pretty sure there are some other people who could help with that as well.

I'll probably keep supporting all my scripts I made so far, keep fixing bugs etc but I am just not sure anymore if I want to improve because of several reasons I mentioned.


Also, in regards to the Furpan issue, I immediately made him take down the listing with the impending threat of a ban. He was also a high recommendation for our next moderator from some of our staff, and the stunt he pulled completely negated any consideration I would have otherwise given him for the position.

In regards to "moderators sharing your code", that's just goddamn bullshit. I've tried to be civil, pragmatic, and professional when addressing this thread, but the line is crossed when you falsely accuse my staff of some bullshit. Cut it the fuck out and edit your retarded posts on the matter.

Never said moderators share our scripts, I just said they are among people who do that - ie. in Skype conversations and they do not even deny that. I know there is not much they can do in this case but being in such convos, allowing it and bashing all scripts on the forums - including your bot is just quite too much as well?

Also I could share much more screenshots regarding some people but why would I make more drama on the forum. But if you want you can always talk to me in private if you are curious.

[Y2Quakepc2]

1) This is a whine thread, pure and simple.
2) People have tried to use logic with you guys, it doesn't work. Don't expect neutral discussions.
3) Link(s) please, if it wasn't justified I'll send you $100.
4) It's not up to the community, it's up to DarkstaR
5) This thread is mainly about encryption, how does that help concerning bot features, no other bot has encryption.

I've already voiced my opinion on the script quality, and I'm sure it's fairly obvious how shit they are.
OX hasn't "sold" anything to the community. It's still in beta, you aren't forced to use it. The concept is there, but it has some issues, sure.
We don't plan on selling any OX scripts until we're out of beta and we're confident that issues have been resolved.

P.S. Do you not have spell-check?

1) This is a discussion thread, call it however you want because you don't like it
2) I don't really see anybody against ss (without counting the guys with the so mature solid scripts poop flag on their signature)
3) http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?22671-How-to-encrypt-a-lua-code/page2 more clear impossible, you're the only professional people with access to this algorythm, so casual you're friends with Nick as well. Your scripts are not even good, i've tried a lot of them and on this you wont win against me bud, the one who bots the game is not you, its me, do i need to show proofs about how many clients im botting 1000% afk with solid scripts including all the active services + all the 35 completed services on my powerleveling thread? You might have better programming skills thought, i certainly don't give a shit about how pro you are or im just looking at your signature right now "what level you are, how many days and hours you spent in front of your computer programming for that webpage". I don't give a piece of shit, i just want my characters to do everything without having to take a look at them, and a lot of members in my past teams / people from the comunity says that JX scripts dont work as they should.
4) I know this point, and i thought Nick was way wiser than what he shows to be acting this way, or i may just think that he doesn't care about Xeno anymore, which makes me even sad.
5) They don't but they will, and it doesn't seem like Xenobot will change in that specific topic.

I respect you, you're a very talented guy as well as joshwa is very smart and has very good skills, but sorry my friend i respect solid scripts way more, and i'm not even their friends, if i show you my conversations in skype with them you'll be dissapointed, we don't talk about life nor tibia nor anything in common, only about scripts and xenobot situation. On the other hand with Joshwa we did have a few convos about life.. this is an extract from a convo i had with him


http://i.imgur.com/q5lBK6D.png


More lack of interest can't be shown than in this. Im sorry joshwa, you're a nice guy, i was impresed to get on very well with you even after so much flaming on forums, but this is my opinion about the topic.
So don't lie about OX Syntax, just don't.

P.S Im Latin American and my english sucks, im sorry (my firefox is set in spanish as well.)

[GammaPwns]

I think you guys should talk it out in a LOOOOOONG skype call or private chat, everyone who is involved in this "thing". This thread is pure bashing, and the only people who getting profit out of this thread are competitors from other bot sites :d

[Nakuu]

I think you guys should talk it out in a LOOOOOONG skype call or private chat, everyone who is involved in this "thing". This thread is pure bashing, and the only people who getting profit out of this thread are competitors from other bot sites :d

Already suggested but they don't want to talk to me except in big convo group where everyone insults me :)

[DarkstaR]

3) http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?22671-How-to-encrypt-a-lua-code/page2

I made that post when the encryption was still in testing, and didn't decide until afterwards that giving it to services was a mistake. See my recent post in this thread.

[DarkstaR]

Already suggested but they don't want to talk to me except in big convo group where everyone insults me :)


Stop fucking crying. I gave you a perfectly reasonable response without insulting you and you completely ignored it to make this crybaby post. The fact that you constantly play the victim card is pretty fucking annoying.

[Nakuu]

Stop fucking crying. I gave you a perfectly reasonable response without insulting you and you completely ignored it to make this crybaby post. The fact that you constantly play the victim card is pretty fucking annoying.

Sorry if defending myself means crying. I won't post here anymore unless asked.

[kimse]

Never said moderators share our scripts, I just said they are among people who do that - ie. in Skype conversations and they do not even deny that. I know there is not much they can do in this case but being in such convos, allowing it and bashing all scripts on the forums - including your bot is just quite too much as well?


Except it was the first thing you did in your main post (up until about 4min ago when you edited out moderator and replaced it with an asterisk


Recently we at SolidScripts and more people have noticed our scripts being shared amongs users and even * on XenoBot. Some people considered 'trusted' or that somewhat have a more responsible state have even proven to share our scripts and even taunt us with it since we can do nothing about it.


and we do not thank moderators/higher standard users that do share our scripts (some even on their own website) and taunt us with it.


What do you other moderators think (except from those who are already sharing our works)


If you are acting like a child on serious matters I instantly I assume you are the one who shares the scripts and are just against the protection.

[Stusse]

This is a bit of a contradictory view. You basically beg for better obfuscation, but you make a back-handed implication that you're willing to move to another bot with NO OBFUSCATION. This leads me to believe that it's not a matter of preserving your own intellectual property, but, instead, a severe case of "they have it, I want it". Now, there's nothing wrong with that attitude, but I wish you'd at least admit that it is your ultimate reason for making this post. (Hint: If its not, then you really have trouble with expressing what you feel.)

I admit, having encryption for JX was a problem, as they were a third-party service like everyone else. Why should they have a privilege? One of the main reason to incorporate Cavitt and Joshwa into OX Scripts was to set a dividing line that says "These scripts have DarkstaR's stamp of approval". The purpose of this partitioning was to make it clear why they were the only group to get encryption: because they are the only group that I can give my approval to. This doesn't mean that I have some inherent bias against you, but more that I have a bias towards trusting Cavitt. That may seem unfair, but he's the only person on this forum who has jumped out of a fucking airplane with me. Yadig?

In comparison, SS is a bunch of people that I have only mild acquaintances with. I know that you, @Nakuu (http://forums.xenobot.net/member.php?u=15142), and your team are dedicated to XenoBot, and I do have respect for that. You maintain the suggestions thread, you're active in the community, and you're pretty chill when you're not talking to Cavitt or Joshwa. But, at the end of the day, there have been millions of people just like me that have given power to millions of people that appeared to have the same genuine intentions as you, and have still been fucked over. There's nothing I have from you guys that says "Nick, you can trust us 100% not to put malicious shit inside of scripts". If I was making this decision at the discretion of my own risk, I'd probably say "sure, I'll give it a shot". But that's not the case. As soon as I decide to let you use xblua, I'm deciding, for everybody on my forum, that you can be trusted. Sure, it's their choice if they want to make a purchase from you, but many XenoBot users don't pay attention to the forum politics, reputations, and what-have-you. They just buy scripts.

As soon as there's no way for some experienced know-it-all like Hugo, 4pan, or Rydan to come along and say "Dude, these scripts are fucking stealing your shit", there's potential for people to get greedy, have their eyes light up with the proverbial dollar signs, and do something sneaky. You might say "but if I wanted to be malicious and steal from people without anybody knowing, I could just obfuscate the scripts myself and make the cod every hard to understand". And that's exactly my point.

Thanks, actually more polite and well based answer than expected :p

I understand you can't trust us in the same way you do with Syntax, that's understandable.

Basically I have just one thing to comment on which is the first paragraph. We would not have made this thread unless the rules were the same for every team. If others would not have had the opportunity for your .xblua we would play by the rules and do what we could. If the play-rules would have been the same for every team, sharing would've been a collective problem, while atm I'm sure it only affects us mostly, perhaps other scripters as well. It's just as Nakuu described, irritating, and quite de-motivating knowing we can improve our scripts, but as soon as we've done that someone gonna release it for free, while there is a sollution so nearby at hand but yet not reachable. I'm sure you're aware of the feeling while there was some xenobot crack out in the open.

Guess I have nothing more to say.

edit: About scripts being shared amongs moderators I believe we mean Joshwa being in the chat-group where this sharing has its origin and not doing anything about it is kinda unprofessional as a moderator. Nothing personally against Joshwa, just the role as a moderator might be a bit higher professionality expected.

[Pixels]

to begin with, I'm an idiot
My opinion does not count much
and I use a translator due to bad english

I have a busy job
and that is precisely why I use xenobot

I always have access to the forum which is very active

I am a computer illiterate so I find it difficult to follow updates often does succeed as long as the base remains the same, but I hope the community gets what they want, I will certainly vote for more update's I would have little benefit from it (maybe it works even against me)

Sincerely Pixels

[nuub]

Thanks, actually more polite and well based answer than expected :p
edit: About scripts being shared amongs moderators I believe we mean Joshwa being in the chat-group where this sharing has its origin and not doing anything about it is kinda unprofessional as a moderator. Nothing personally against Joshwa, just the role as a moderator might be a bit higher professionality expected.

I actually don't understand what you guys would like him to do?, Beg some random people on skype to not share scripts?

[Joshwa534]

I think you guys should talk it out in a LOOOOOONG skype call or private chat, everyone who is involved in this "thing". This thread is pure bashing, and the only people who getting profit out of this thread are competitors from other bot sites :d

I like the way you think, we've tried that already twice today. I'm not going to sit here and post screenshots of our conversations though as I do respect everyone that's posted here thus far and privacy is important.


The thread has skewed so far off topic that its pointless even making this post.

I will admit that I do not like the current state of a multitude of things. I have been speaking with others to get their input concerning the current botting situation and where its headed whether it concern Xenobot, Windbot, iBot, Tibia, the new client, the rapid increase in hackings, scams, etc because I'm curious what's going on. Yes, I think OX is lacking in some key elements. Yes, I think Xenobot is lacking some key elements. Yes, I think this community - as a whole - is lacking the friendliness & support that we all once had towards each other. There's nobody to blame but ourselves. Sure, Syntax and I could've continued developing until OX was out of beta. Sure, we could release our paid scripts that have already been prepared and tested. Sure, DarkstaR could've beat Windbot to the punch on just about everything if he wanted to. Sure, Solid Scripts could use their own obfuscation like we do. Unfortunately, nobody here has anyone else to blame other than themselves and that's a fact.

Trust me, I wish Solid Scripts had better protection for their scripts before it got to this point. I've hand fed several scripting teams on Xenobot all the tools needed to be as successful, if not more, than us. I've given out obfuscation programs, I've provided different techniques, advised for/against certain things, etc. Not listening to what people have to say to you brings you that much closer to failure. Although, they should have taken the steps described long ago. Even if they had encryption or obfuscation now, it wouldn't do any good as all of their scripts are already readily available. It does not benefit me one bit when everyone can visit Torg and download whatever & whoever's scripts they want. I wish Xenobot was a lot more advanced than it currently is. Do you think I like seeing other scripters being able to do shit that we cannot simply due to bot limitations? Do you know how many customers have come to me in the last 3 years asking if we can make this or that? Its simply not possible here. I wish someday Syntax and I fix the last 2 bugs in OX because that's all we're down to. As a businessman, I wish a lot of things were more in my favor but that's just not the way the world works.

Some of you haven't been part of this community long enough to see what's happened in the course of a few years. When I first joined Xenobot and founded JXScripts, we were the underdog. We busted our asses to get to where we are today long before I invited Syntax to join my scripting team. The little title that says 'Admin' has nothing to do with how skilled he is at scripting, most of Xenobot's staff don't know half the shit he does. He has every right to call you out on whatever he wants. As for DarkstaR, this is his bot & his forum, what he says goes and that's just how it is. He might not be the nicest guy I've ever met but he's intelligent and he's fair. There have been several instances where he's rewarded people for doing positive shit for this community. You can't always be a beggar and expect stuff to fall on your lap.

As for anyone else, its safe to say that a vast majority of users here have neglected this community whether it be by sharing paid scripts, DDoS attacks, insults, scamming, etc. I don't see very many people contributing to this community in a positive way, the ones that do stand out and have been acknowledged. If you think Furpan got a lifetime membership just because he asked for it, think again. If you think we got encryption just because we asked for it, think again.

Those of you that have the "gimme gimme gimme" attitude need to grow the fuck up and understand that you work for something and build your way up.

That's all,
I'm not posting again.

Joshwa534

[HjugO]

[...]
As soon as there's no way for some experienced know-it-all like Hugo, 4pan, or Rydan to come along and say "Dude, these scripts are fucking stealing your shit", there's potential for people to get greedy, have their eyes light up with the proverbial dollar signs, and do something sneaky. You might say "but if I wanted to be malicious and steal from people without anybody knowing, I could just obfuscate the scripts myself and make the cod every hard to understand". And that's exactly my point.

I felt offended :(

BTW, about new features.
DarkstaR is alone with coding and everybody have normal life, GF, wanna drink beer, not 24/7 Tibia, example. WindBot have ~3 coders.

EDIT2.

TIBIA IS GOING DOWN.

[DarkstaR]

Also, sure, It hurts me so much that someone has access to something that helps them a lot just because (as you admitted) he is your rl friend and jumped out of plain with you. Even though it's a little bit unprofessional it's probably the same how I'd act when running such business and my rl friend would be a part of it.

Unprofessional? There's nothing unprofessional about it. Have you ever ran a business? I've ran two. The most unprofessional thing you can do is allow third party groups to run unverified, obfuscated code on your platform. In the world of computer security, this is called an exploit. I work for a company that makes tens of million of dollars stopping this kind of thing from happening. Syntax was never, in my mind, considered a "third party" vendor, which is why he had access. Joshwa doesn't even have access, and from day one I made it clear to Syntax to never let anybody use the code but him.



Anyway, this thread gave a lot of good things as well - for example Rydan saying he could take take of checking out our scripts etc and I am pretty sure there are some other people who could help with that as well.

The encryption is user-based. That means that he would have to go ahead and re-verify the code for every user that gets one of your scripts. If you want to do that, you can, and it's a business arrangement that you can do with him. I will give him access to the interface and he can set his price if he wants to. But your team, as a whole, will not have direct access to the interface.

[Pietro1906]

I also see mature people being neutral and supporting Solid Scripts.


Again with the maturity=supporting Solid shitlogic...
Followed up by being neutral=supporting a side in an arguement shitlogic.

Where do you guys all take this from?

[sausting]

Pietro1906 your posts are void of any substance or logic, please refrain

[kubax36]

In my opinion Xenobot is good bot for scripters. Best example is that on windbot forum, theard like that would be deleted immidietly and you, Nakuu would have warn already.

You cant avoid sharing scripts, people are even share costs of script and buying it for 5 players. Sharing is not only problem of bot scripts its touching everything in life. Its like with books in public libraries, you can read it for free, meanwhile writer of this book thinks that everyone should buy his book instead of renting it from library.

But I must agree with one thing, Xenobot have lack of new features in last updates, however those features which are already included in bot are enough to make script EVERYWHERE (atleast for me)

also, whats the matter HOW script is written if its working like a charm?

[Pietro1906]

Pietro1906 your posts are void of any substance or logic, please refrain

There's more substance and logic in what I say than in what I quoted so far in this thread.

[xux]

I'm watching this thread, but not more then that.
(sort of a bookmark to see until where i have read this thread)

[Pinnicle]

I agree, more people should be given the "official" encryption.
But I agree with DarkstaR - it would mean trusting these people enough to encrypt their scripts without adding malicious code.
Don't you think SolidScripts are trustworthy enough? As the biggest active scripting team, I honestly think they are.

If OXScripts were still active, then yeah, I'd understand that they have it and SolidScripts don't, since they are official xenobot script makers.
BUT, OXScripts hasn't been active for a while and JXScripts hasn't provided support on their thread for like 2 months? Yet they aren't closed down still. The rules clearly state that if there is no active support in the Paid Scripts section on their thread it is closed.

Sorry Joshwa534 - I like you and we spoke about the whole inactive JXScripts shit on Skype, so I guess it's all cool. :cool:


p.s.
I am not saying SolidScripts have flawless scripts, because they don't. Their is a lot of stuff they need to improve but at least they are trying to make this bot grow.

Good luck with whatever happens.