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Wolfbat
05-27-2015, 05:22 AM
Hello guys, i back to bot yesterday, i've been retired from botting have 1 month ago i think, and i think i go to stop bot, why?
I don't understand but i create 4 accounts yestarday, and damn, all deleted in less than 10 hours, today i put 2 more, and the same situation, deleted, i began to think that the server is the problem, then use two old accounts, one lvl 63 in Harmonia, 6 hours after it has been deleted.. i don't understand why i use differente scripts, and differents servers... the only thing in common is that all are Rookstayers... now i have only one char more, and my manual char, is only with me this, or cipsoft are really working now? O.O

shadowart
05-27-2015, 05:39 AM
New facc characters are getting banned almost instantly. I'm not sure about new premium characters, I haven't seen enough data there. Older, high-leveled characters are fine. At least if they've been continuously active recently. We don't have enough data on what happens if you start playing again after some months of inactivity.

spnwee
05-27-2015, 05:41 AM
I heard about if you have been ''created'' ur acc long time ago and bought many premium time and have alot of loyality points. its kinda hard to get deleted :o

sausting
05-27-2015, 06:35 AM
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sounds like a variation of 'buy enough premiums/mounts' to be safe...

Soul
05-27-2015, 07:56 AM
I have been deleted in many new characters like 10, always following the same places Dawnport Script -> Thais Trolls, and cant reach level 25+ with none of them.

I created a new one 2 days ago, Dawnport -> New palce in Venore, at this moment is currently botting and its level almost 30.

Janado
05-27-2015, 11:01 AM
guys i start 6 days ago boting in dolera in one account facc i get deleted in 1 days next i creat 5 days ago i start in other account but pacc atm are lvl 43 and not deleted.

1 day: i talke lvl 10 manual and put training skills
2 day: i take lvl 25
3 day : i take lvl 35
4 day: i dont bot
5 day: i take lvl 43

i bot max 8/12h

i go talk in future if i got deleted or not.

Janado
05-27-2015, 11:02 AM
I have been deleted in many new characters like 10, always following the same places Dawnport Script -> Thais Trolls, and cant reach level 25+ with none of them.

I created a new one 2 days ago, Dawnport -> New palce in Venore, at this moment is currently botting and its level almost 30.

i do this to i up in dawnport and i put script of infernal bot in thais and i get deleted in 1 day to in account facc

Soul
05-27-2015, 12:27 PM
i do this to i up in dawnport and i put script of infernal bot in thais and i get deleted in 1 day to in account facc


Yes, seems like thais trolls are auto-delete, haha.

shadowart
05-27-2015, 12:34 PM
guys i start 6 days ago boting in dolera in one account facc i get deleted in 1 days next i creat 5 days ago i start in other account but pacc atm are lvl 43 and not deleted.

1 day: i talke lvl 10 manual and put training skills
2 day: i take lvl 25
3 day : i take lvl 35
4 day: i dont bot
5 day: i take lvl 43

i bot max 8/12h

i go talk in future if i got deleted or not.
I'm also botting a brand new pacc (2 level 50s at the moment). We'll see how that works out.

Janado
05-27-2015, 12:45 PM
Yes, seems like thais trolls are auto-delete, haha.

i think its like about a script or someting i dunno. in pacc i use scripts of solid script and i never get deleted in new accounts .
i creat in 1 month ago in chrona 5 accounts 3 knights 1 sorcerer and 1 paladin and i take 80+.
atm all accounts still okay.

shadowart
05-27-2015, 12:51 PM
i think its like about a script or someting i dunno. in pacc i use scripts of solid script and i never get deleted in new accounts .
i creat in 1 month ago in chrona 5 accounts 3 knights 1 sorcerer and 1 paladin and i take 80+.
atm all accounts still okay.
Its not about the scripts. Or rather, if you want a script that can fool them you need insane amounts of effort and none of Solid's releases so far qualify. Avoiding bans at the moment seem to be all around being a good customer or having an old account (and I'm not yet sure that the former actually works).

4zevedo
05-27-2015, 08:45 PM
I have been banned today, using xenobot for 27 minutes ang get a ban :/ acc created in 2007

shadowart
05-27-2015, 09:18 PM
I have been banned today, using xenobot for 27 minutes ang get a ban :/ acc created in 2007
Had you been inactive for a while? Or did you play a new character?

Jesseh
05-28-2015, 02:25 PM
Had you been inactive for a while? Or did you play a new character?

Have you abandoned randomized scripts shadowart? I'm still botting "safe" with my only 1 acc/char from 2004. Came back to play more in january 2015, after retired since 2011. Not botting all the time/blatantly though. I'm an oramond botter with my 260 rp, i've been never repeating the same spot or continue hunting after one refill, either logging out on green stamina or changing between demons/ glooth sewers/minos/bandits if I continue hunting after refill. Refilling on only one city has the advantage of having ready all the randomization with npcs/paths, and even using street lamps etc =)

Changed healing methods too, so I'm not that efficient, but still missing some more randomization on targeting distance keeping. Also, I need to get to a safe spot and eat/pee after some time hunting.

shadowart
05-28-2015, 02:47 PM
Have you abandoned randomized scripts shadowart? I'm still botting "safe" with my only 1 acc/char from 2004. Came back to play more in january 2015, after retired since 2011. Not botting all the time/blatantly though. I'm an oramond botter with my 260 rp, i've been never repeating the same spot or continue hunting after one refill, either logging out on green stamina or changing between demons/ glooth sewers/minos/bandits if I continue hunting after refill. Refilling on only one city has the advantage of having ready all the randomization with npcs/paths, and even using street lamps etc =)

Changed healing methods too, so I'm not that efficient, but still missing some more randomization on targeting distance keeping. Also, I need to get to a safe spot and eat/pee after some time hunting.
More or less. It takes too much effort. If creating a new pacc and botting it with an authenticator works out I'm fine with that.

The real timesink when it comes to making randomized scripts is actually laying the waypoints. I've considered making a script that automatically records my movement when I play and then puts together a nodelist with some sensible randomization with he help of some occasional chat commands. That way you could easily get huge amounts of waypoints without much effort. However, for now it is the backup plan.

alexsiux
05-28-2015, 02:52 PM
10 skilling chars on mad sheeps with anti-idle only on various worlds deleted in less than 2 weeks. -.-

Jesseh
05-28-2015, 03:17 PM
alexsiux that's bad, I don't see clearly why you should get deleted, only possible options I think:

1. Using a not so random anti-idle pattern (eating food, casting spells, turning left/right almost perfectly)

2. "Blacklisted" Hardware ID which means:
2.1. You either botted/maybe got deleted before on your same PC and now you will be closely watched and any abnormal behaviour means deletion (long times online)
2.2. You've never botted before but you were MCing, connected with many chars on the same hardware, maybe even casting a spell exactly on the same time on more than 1 acc (almost impossible to do without MCing with a bot).

If all your acc got deleted at the same or very close time it's basically explained, otherwise the explanations above may come in handy.

shadowart I'm using Authy but for now is a valid hypothesis for not getting deleted, even if you got detected, as I don't know anybody who uses it and got deleted so far.
I agree that sometimes it takes some bigger effort for randomizing manually, for me the worst part is putting together all the gotolabel(math.random way 1 to 5) etc. But it's even a bit fun I think. I'm not a well versed scripter and I do things the harder/dumber way, but for now things are working. I'm still somewhat worried the way targeting works, too static, I try to implement scripts to make it more random but I'm not skilled enough, would like to walk diagonally a bit more but didn't manage to do it (dunno if Xeno got it).

Wolfbat
05-28-2015, 04:05 PM
i do this to i up in dawnport and i put script of infernal bot in thais and i get deleted in 1 day to in account facc

I use in 6 accounts the Dawnport script too... i think that's one of the problems

shadowart
05-28-2015, 05:14 PM
alexsiux that's bad, I don't see clearly why you should get deleted, only possible options I think:

1. Using a not so random anti-idle pattern (eating food, casting spells, turning left/right almost perfectly)

2. "Blacklisted" Hardware ID which means:
2.1. You either botted/maybe got deleted before on your same PC and now you will be closely watched and any abnormal behaviour means deletion (long times online)
2.2. You've never botted before but you were MCing, connected with many chars on the same hardware, maybe even casting a spell exactly on the same time on more than 1 acc (almost impossible to do without MCing with a bot).

If all your acc got deleted at the same or very close time it's basically explained, otherwise the explanations above may come in handy.

shadowart I'm using Authy but for now is a valid hypothesis for not getting deleted, even if you got detected, as I don't know anybody who uses it and got deleted so far.
I agree that sometimes it takes some bigger effort for randomizing manually, for me the worst part is putting together all the gotolabel(math.random way 1 to 5) etc. But it's even a bit fun I think. I'm not a well versed scripter and I do things the harder/dumber way, but for now things are working. I'm still somewhat worried the way targeting works, too static, I try to implement scripts to make it more random but I'm not skilled enough, would like to walk diagonally a bit more but didn't manage to do it (dunno if Xeno got it).
Don't worry about not walking diagonally. A lot of keyboards (mine included) don't have a numpad, which makes walking diagonally without obstacles more or less impossible.

Jesseh
05-28-2015, 05:31 PM
That's true =) I was only comparing to myself when manual hunting but for deletion it shouldn't have any effect. Bigger problems are instant mantaining exact distance from a given monster when running away/to it.

alexsiux
05-30-2015, 02:26 PM
alexsiux that's bad, I don't see clearly why you should get deleted, only possible options I think:

1. Using a not so random anti-idle pattern (eating food, casting spells, turning left/right almost perfectly)

2. "Blacklisted" Hardware ID which means:
2.1. You either botted/maybe got deleted before on your same PC and now you will be closely watched and any abnormal behaviour means deletion (long times online)
2.2. You've never botted before but you were MCing, connected with many chars on the same hardware, maybe even casting a spell exactly on the same time on more than 1 acc (almost impossible to do without MCing with a bot).

If all your acc got deleted at the same or very close time it's basically explained, otherwise the explanations above may come in handy.

shadowart I'm using Authy but for now is a valid hypothesis for not getting deleted, even if you got detected, as I don't know anybody who uses it and got deleted so far.
I agree that sometimes it takes some bigger effort for randomizing manually, for me the worst part is putting together all the gotolabel(math.random way 1 to 5) etc. But it's even a bit fun I think. I'm not a well versed scripter and I do things the harder/dumber way, but for now things are working. I'm still somewhat worried the way targeting works, too static, I try to implement scripts to make it more random but I'm not skilled enough, would like to walk diagonally a bit more but didn't manage to do it (dunno if Xeno got it).

Only anti-idle. I did not botted atleast 4-5 months before. Also they were deleted not on the same time. The only reason of deletion i guess that they were new facc accounts also unregistered. Well atleast 2 accounts which was made like 6 months ago survived deletion and now 80/80 and 90/90 :D