@Xenobot

[Brosmash]

I can't bot anymore with this bot, it's like this with all the other bots or windbot safer etc? Everytime I make new char it gets deleted after a few days using xeno, just wondering if it is the same case for the other bots out there?

[lonatic]

Botting days are over unless your playing OT's

[shadowart]

It's the same with all bots. Faccs without authenticators get banned almost instantly, paccs with authenticators don't get banned (anymore than than before double xp week at least). I'm not sure about faccs with authenticators and paccs without.

[pajaam]

I dont get why ppl are crying, its a illegal act, and thats what the majority of the ppl wanted, no botting allowed.

[shadowart]

I dont get why ppl are crying, its a illegal act, and thats what the majority of the ppl wanted, no botting allowed.
I don't get why people are crying about people crying when there wasn't any people crying before the people crying about people crying started crying.

[pajaam]

ye, thats what botters say ;)

[Guardian]

shadowart has spoken lol

Nah, it's more likely where you bot and how. Ofc it all comes up to the same, but I still have 30-40 chars daily up and running which havent been banned yet.

[shadowart]

shadowart has spoken lol

Nah, it's more likely where you bot and how. Ofc it all comes up to the same, but I still have 30-40 chars daily up and running which havent been banned yet.
Yeah I forgot to mention that it's pretty much only new accounts that are being targeted, and possibly old accounts that have been inactive for a long time but I'm not sure about that.

[Jesseh]

I created a new acc last week, lvl 30 now, facc botting with shadowart mega carlin script. No troubles at all, and People already killed me and maybe already reported too.

[Ryszard]

Botting days are over unless your playing OT's

Bullshit. I'm botting 6-7 accounts everyday without any problem. They improved system 'controlling' newly created accounts. Deleting high level characters too often, is too big waste for them.

[Ckicrezid]

+1 on what Ryszard said, I am botting the same amount of accounts for the same amount of hours as I have been doing the previous 2-3 years.

Havent been deleted yet, but then I dont go afk and bot 20h on coryms either :D

[draadloos]

I don't get why people are crying about people crying when there wasn't any people crying before the people crying about people crying started crying.

+1 makes me laugh

[Jordon]

I disagree ryszard, they are indiscriminately deleting accounts had 3 old bot accounts on one computer and manual on another computer they deleted both my 290's characters that werent even botted.

[shadowart]

I disagree ryszard, they are indiscriminately deleting accounts had 3 old bot accounts on one computer and manual on another computer they deleted both my 290's characters that werent even botted.
They are still banning some high level people, but they aren't being systematically targeted the same way that new accounts are. This time you just got unlucky.

[Ryszard]

I disagree ryszard, they are indiscriminately deleting accounts had 3 old bot accounts on one computer and manual on another computer they deleted both my 290's characters that werent even botted.

Yeah as shadowart said, they are still banning high levels, but not that often as newly created accounts. I'm sure they are using some 'system', but under 50/100 level they don't need any 'confirmation' before deleting account, and above 50/100 level, they are checking much more things (reports/online time/movements/quests/achivement points etc).

[Jordon]

I realise they are targeting lower new accounts, but they use your IP address and will ban any account using that IP address, so they will delete high level characters and low level characters. If you check recently deleted there is a huge amount of high levels being deleted.

[tolhoko]

I don't get deletes anymore with newly accounts since I stopped using MC and changed my scripts.

[Jesseh]

I don't get deletes anymore with newly accounts since I stopped using MC and changed my scripts.

Nice to hear, I've posted some statistics on windbot forums that sums up some things:



Ok guys, I`ve spent a little time on this topic compiling basically every ban claim post (including friend's of posters) to try to gather some statistics about deletions.

This isn`t perfect, for sure, but this is what we have by now, if someone has any input feel free to add.

209 posts were "analyzed":

- 172 (82,3%) used MC, 15 (7,2%) said they didn`t used. It wasn`t possible to say about the other 22.
- 79 (37,8%) had more than 1 botting char per acc, including 4 posts who had more than 1 botting char but didn`t used MC.
- 70 (33,5%) got high online times (more than 10h per day or on some days).
- 56 (26,8%) were reported by other players, 21 (10%) said for sure they didn't got reported. Many others didn't knew or didn't said anything about it.
- 66 (31,6%) were hunting on popular spawns (salamanders, coryms, OF, etc). 13 (6,2%) was on always empty spawns, including 2 who said they never saw anyone on the spawn, ever.
- 2 were deleted for using the same registration even without botting
- 8 recently came back to play on the acc, 4 of them using MC, other 4 didnt said or said they didnt used MC.
- 6 were good customers, always buying mounts/pacc/etc.
- 3 saw black HP monsters and got deleted, 2 of them when MCing, other one didn't said anything else.
- 1 was deleted when using looting only, but he was using MC while botting another acc too.
- 1 was deleted while using more randomized scripts (random paths) but with not much randomization inside spawn, and also while using MC.
- 3 was deleted for using either healing/only or anti-idle only. 1 of them while using MC for botting other accs, 1 didn't said if was using anything else, and other one said he didn't use anything at all, only 1 client and windbot with anti-idle (most disturbing case)
- NONE said that got deleted while also using Authenticator

Amount of people who didn't MC, didn't bot more than 1 char per acc, didn't get mass reported and didn't play for a high time: SIX (6)

About those 6:
1 was coming back to play after some time and hunted in a popular spawn but didn't got reported
1 was hunting on popular spawn but didn't got reported AND was a good customer
1 was hunting on popular spawn but nothing else
2 had nothing apparently bad, but didn`t said anything about randomization/authenticator
1 was only training with mad sheep with anti-idle (not easy to explain case, maybe deleted on previous acc's and blacklisted)

So, if I can give any advice: Don't MC while botting, only use 1 botting char per acc, don't hunt more than ~4h per day, avoid getting reported, interact with other people, if you are coming back to play don`t jump right into botting hard, always use authenticator (hypothesis not taken down so far), randomize further your waypoints, way of hunting, spawns, talkings with npcs.

If anyone wants I can upload this spreadsheet too, even though it's somewhat rustic and not too friendly.


By the way, what have you changed on your scripts, randomization?

[billy69er]

I realise they are targeting lower new accounts, but they use your IP address and will ban any account using that IP address, so they will delete high level characters and low level characters. If you check recently deleted there is a huge amount of high levels being deleted.

no they cant use ip address to ban people as proxys give a different address, and people living in the same house should all be banned for botting if only 1 does? think not

[Jordon]

billy69er they absolutely do use IP addresses to bann accounts, I was botting on a seperate machine and logged into ZERO of my manual accounts and they all got banned

[billy69er]

billy69er they absolutely do use IP addresses to bann accounts, I was botting on a seperate machine and logged into ZERO of my manual accounts and they all got banned

saying they absolutley do isnt true as nobody knows ABSOLUTELY what they do

[Jordon]

There would be no other explanation for deleting manual account on a computer with nothing installed, bot wise on it, even contact info was different.

[Ryszard]

There would be no other explanation for deleting manual account on a computer with nothing installed, bot wise on it, even contact info was different.

Maybe you sent parcel or transfered money to second character.

[tolhoko]

Nice to hear, I've posted some statistics on windbot forums that sums up some things:



By the way, what have you changed on your scripts, randomization?

Kind of. I basically made my own hunt nodes.

Also I only bot 1 char per acc till 30 of stamina and constantly changing the HWID of my virtual machines.

These statistics you've made are helpful. Good job.

[Jesseh]

Kind of. I basically made my own hunt nodes.

Also I only bot 1 char per acc till 30 of stamina and constantly changing the HWID of my virtual machines.

These statistics you've made are helpful. Good job.

But if you change your HWID you won`t be able to turn on the bot, right?

[Jordon]

Ryszard Interestingly I only send money to the botting accounts from one account and that account didnt get banned, which baffles me

[NashQ]

well dunno about u r experiance about it guys cuze im a little fresh, but for now its like 3 mounths, i boting ryly madly my ED that is 156 lvl now, also some poor EK's with lvl araund 100~~ thats make me cash, sometimes online on them go to even 15h daily... some days ago i created a new EK and put him to skill with monsters(alredy 5th or 6 day 24//7 afk skilling 15 lvl facc), so at all there are 3 runing accs nearly always at same time on my PC... still nothing about bans, all are full registred with autenthicator,2 of them premy, rest facc...