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DarkstaR
01-04-2012, 11:26 PM
So, what has become obvious is that Cipsoft is taking this opportunity to weed out the weak. They have realsed two "minor" updates within a weeks time which have both extremely altered Tibia's internal systems. The first, 9.42, they did a compile changed. This caused every data structure with less than 3 elements to be reversed and caused some larger structures to just have a random format. While I found the changes and fixed the problems quite seamlessly, the big problem was that they also changed their calling conventions for most functions. That took a bit longer to fix but, as the 9.42 released showed, was able to be done. Now with the second patch, they have completely altered the way data is accessed within the client. You can think of the changes kind of like this:
Tibia == A Book
Olds Updates:

Find the page in the book where the players health is written


9.43 Update

Find a page in the book which corresponds to another page
Turn to the second page listed, which lists a value (value1)
Find another page in the book which corresponds to yet another page
Turn to the second page which lists a value (value2)
Do some bitwise math (XOR'ing, to be precise) between the two values
As you can see, there is quite a bit more work and digging involved in what I will be doing with this new update. These are only changes which have been found and posted by Blackd, I have no clue what else I have waiting for me around the corner. (XenoBot does many things and uses many structures which other bots don't use. Every update, I find a significant amoutn of unique changes that other bot makers aren't aware of.)

Between this and my 12 hour work days, I sincerely apologize if this update is delayed. I will push it out as fast as possible, but don't expect it for at least a few days.

_troll
01-04-2012, 11:30 PM
Take your time.

HolmaN
01-04-2012, 11:31 PM
Take your time. :)

Efren
01-04-2012, 11:35 PM
Take your time. (3x)

Genom
01-04-2012, 11:42 PM
Do not worry with time, because we know that you do things with the greatest care possible, always trying to do the best for us.
We are with you. Take care. good luck

Infernal Bolt
01-04-2012, 11:47 PM
Its better to do it good then to release a sloppy update that has alot of bugs, take the time that you need.

Jetta
01-04-2012, 11:47 PM
We will wait :D

Hawkeye
01-05-2012, 12:00 AM
So we can admit that Cipsoft started to fight against botters for real ?

eMpen
01-05-2012, 12:14 AM
incompetent.

Luls
01-05-2012, 12:22 AM
incompetent.

Where's the bot you're making then, Mr. Genius? owait.

Maiku
01-05-2012, 12:23 AM
Take your time and do a good job, CIP is really annoying that they keep making "minor updates" to weed out the botters but take your time and keep up with them. We'll wait and try to be paitent and wait for your new masterpiece.

Later
Maiku

Gabriel
01-05-2012, 12:24 AM
Take your time (x+1)

Its nice to know that u cares about us.

Its nice to hear some explanation about the delay... that shows your care and respect with the users.
And with that, uve earnd my loyalty. ;)

Siegfiend
01-05-2012, 12:47 AM
incompetent.

eMpen, Seriously grow up, If he has work and having to update the bot he can't do them both at the same time, Now take a look in this thread all the people willing to wait and play manual or go out and have a life for a few days...you don't see them complaining about Darkstar having to make a living working aswell as update the bot for us all.

So on that note, Dark bro take your sweet arse time! :D

eMpen
01-05-2012, 01:02 AM
eMpen, Seriously grow up, If he has work and having to update the bot he can't do them both at the same time, Now take a look in this thread all the people willing to wait and play manual or go out and have a life for a few days...you don't see them complaining about Darkstar having to make a living working aswell as update the bot for us all.

So on that note, Dark bro take your sweet arse time! :D

Don't tell me to grow up. Why do you release a bot you can't handle? I bought this bot for about 5 days ago, and I've been able to use it once. How come this never happened in any other bot?

I'll blame incompetence.

DarkstaR
01-05-2012, 01:16 AM
Did I ever say I couldn't handle the bot? No. I said this update will take more time than expected. Get your shit strait or keep it in your ass.

Violent
01-05-2012, 01:21 AM
Did I ever say I couldn't handle the bot? No. I said this update will take more time than expected. Get your shit strait or keep it in your ass.

That was epic. Gl though - Im still yet to try Xenobot (already purchased it though) But will be using it real soon. :)

Txs
01-05-2012, 01:22 AM
owned

Genom
01-05-2012, 01:24 AM
Don't tell me to grow up. Why do you release a bot you can't handle? I bought this bot for about 5 days ago, and I've been able to use it once. How come this never happened in any other bot?

I'll blame incompetence.

Friend, your question is simple bad luck is very large.
Because I have played for a long time and this bot and one of the best I have ever seen, if not the best, with so little time and being developed by one person.
Do not blame the Dark, because he does what he can as fast as possible. As you all acquired in the bot and how you pay for it, but you do not see anyone complaining about that.
Thus it is disappointing for a person who does one thing at a fair price and sees only complaint, and without acknowledgment.
Now I hope you understand what I'm telling you, and a vote of confidence for the Darkstar it deserves.
Thanks oh Dark

Messed Around
01-05-2012, 01:36 AM
Don't tell me to grow up. Why do you release a bot you can't handle? I bought this bot for about 5 days ago, and I've been able to use it once. How come this never happened in any other bot?

I'll blame incompetence.

Wanna lollipop while you wait?

Yes or No?
If your smart enough you'll figure it out..

Tezoze
01-05-2012, 03:58 AM
Don't tell me to grow up. Why do you release a bot you can't handle? I bought this bot for about 5 days ago, and I've been able to use it once. How come this never happened in any other bot?

I'll blame incompetence.

So go use one of the other awesome bots that are around... oh wait

Sspanky
01-05-2012, 04:13 AM
this thread has made my girlfriend extremely moist. I have time to wait :) I'll also be getting brownie points for the fact that im not on tibia all day. win win

Paper Boy
01-05-2012, 04:15 AM
Dont Worry,
Be Happy (8)

Do your job, we are patient.

Paper~

playmate
01-05-2012, 07:50 AM
this thread has made my girlfriend extremely moist. I have time to wait :) I'll also be getting brownie points for the fact that im not on tibia all day. win winmoist... brownie points... are you gonna have anal sex?

Flappy Joe
01-05-2012, 08:13 AM
moist... brownie points... are you gonna have anal sex?

playmate! we're not in the three word story here!

Sspanky
01-05-2012, 08:47 AM
Nah playmate, I havnt got my brown belt yet (not with her anyway) ahaha
Sorry for the offtopic post :)

Mega
01-05-2012, 09:25 AM
good luck,, i thought cip would never start with this, but it seems they really want it to be hard making a bot that works with the client.

levra7
01-05-2012, 09:40 AM
eMpen, First off if no one else is gonna say it I will, you are a dumb ass. I don't see you producing the bot, all i see is you sitting on your fat ass trying to tell someone who has more IQ in his middle finger then you do in your whole body, what to do. If you don't wanna wait for him to get everything done in the spare time that he has to make everything perfect or damn near it, and i speak for most of everyone on this forum, go find another bot that is any where near as good as this one but, like everyone else has said "oh wait", you wont because every other bot is either shutting down or just cant do it anymore.

With that being said, to answer your question why you never saw this in other bots before? Plain and simple, tibia has never done something like this before. In past updates they would patch the client, change small things here and there, and of course introduce the big updates. Now they are making you run through fiery hoops to get even the basic information, like how much health you have. He even broke it down so that anyone with half a brain in his head could figure out what they used to do to, compared to what this update has done.

Incompetence has nothing to do with what he's doing. If anyone here is incompetent its you, because you clearly aren't able to understand the headache and knowledge it takes to create a bot.

@everyone else, im really glad to see he has a loyal community. Believe it or not when it comes to something like this, that means alot because clearly he is doing something right to keep everyone happy.

Keep up the great work bro!! and remember to get some, from whatever girls you know. Because that definately keeps men sane..lol even if it means earning your brown belt!! HAHAHA...that's awesome.. ok I'm done

Spectrus
01-05-2012, 10:53 AM
eMpen, First off if no one else is gonna say it I will, you are a dumb ass. I don't see you producing the bot, all i see is you sitting on your fat ass trying to tell someone who has more IQ in his middle finger then you do in your whole body, what to do. If you don't wanna wait for him to get everything done in the spare time that he has to make everything perfect or damn near it, and i speak for most of everyone on this forum, go find another bot that is any where near as good as this one but, like everyone else has said "oh wait", you wont because every other bot is either shutting down or just cant do it anymore.

With that being said, to answer your question why you never saw this in other bots before? Plain and simple, tibia has never done something like this before. In past updates they would patch the client, change small things here and there, and of course introduce the big updates. Now they are making you run through fiery hoops to get even the basic information, like how much health you have. He even broke it down so that anyone with half a brain in his head could figure out what they used to do to, compared to what this update has done.

Incompetence has nothing to do with what he's doing. If anyone here is incompetent its you, because you clearly aren't able to understand the headache and knowledge it takes to create a bot.

levra7,
eMpen is a paying customer. He is not a bot developer. While he waits for the bot to update, his license time is expiring. Please stop flaming him because he is incapable of understanding part 3 of the Terms of Use found on the payments page, here (http://forums.xenobot.net/payments.php).

eMpen,
incompetence - a lack of physical or intellectual ability or qualifications.

Thought you might need the boost to your vocabulary.

And with that, thread closed. You've been informed that the bot will take a little longer to update, I see no reason that anyone needs to post on this thread any more.