View Full Version : The difference between a MS and a ED
Secret
10-29-2012, 07:09 PM
Hey guys!
I've heard people say that ED are so much better than a MS. I mean - are they really that unbalanced?
If so, why do ppl keep making MS? Ofc ED has paralyze and exura sio etc...
What do you guys think?
Please discuss!
DarkstaR
10-29-2012, 07:11 PM
Paralyze and heals make ED better. Sure, my MS can UE for more damage, but how useful is that in Tibia now? Everyone fights in groups and if you UE, they'll suicide just to red you. Also, heal soulfire.
Secret
10-29-2012, 07:35 PM
Paralyze and heals make ED better. Sure, my MS can UE for more damage, but how useful is that in Tibia now? Everyone fights in groups and if you UE, they'll suicide just to red you. Also, heal soulfire.
So your point is that ED is better in general? I mean everyone talks about ED is so much better in so many ways. Why are they so unbalanced? CipSoft have work to do.
No point in playing MS anymore. Ofc, you can still EXP and use SD. But teamhunts gives ED a plus aswell.
DarkstaR
10-29-2012, 07:39 PM
So your point is that ED is better in general? I mean everyone talks about ED is so much better in so many ways. Why are they so unbalanced? CipSoft have work to do.
No point in playing MS anymore. Ofc, you can still EXP and use SD. But teamhunts gives ED a plus aswell.
For team hunting and big wars, ED excels in 90% of cases. MS does have nice variety when it comes to attack spells for hunting specters, grims, etc; but for the most part druids excel.
For small team battles and 1v1 pvp MS excels due to the higher UE and the ability to dish out fatter combos. They can also ue without killing summons.
For solo hunts, it depends on the monsters.
Lets be fair healing from soulfires have come in handy for me in more than 1 occasion.
Secret
10-29-2012, 07:51 PM
For team hunting and big wars, ED excels in 90% of cases. MS does have nice variety when it comes to attack spells for hunting specters, grims, etc; but for the most part druids excel.
For small team battles and 1v1 pvp MS excels due to the higher UE and the ability to dish out fatter combos. They can also ue without killing summons.
For solo hunts, it depends on the monsters.
Thanks for the explanation.
DarkstaR
10-29-2012, 07:55 PM
Lets be fair healing from soulfires have come in handy for me in more than 1 occasion.
It's cost me kills one more than 1 occasion. I have utori flam hotkeyed when I pvp and I always forget to replace that shit with a utori mort on druids.
Hendy
10-29-2012, 08:16 PM
ED > MS
Sharuh
10-31-2012, 03:50 AM
if u look on that monsters are weak to sorcerers have a more natural way of dealing more dmg since they use the right element..
they have their pros and cones i would select druid/sorc depending on the job... also dont forget ues can be good on non-pvp servers
Mannow
10-31-2012, 08:05 AM
ED'S are better for war..
Sio members, mas res people (because we don;t have hotkeys for everyone) and it's much easier than using UH's on sorcs...
Druid can paralyze, and in war these days, all it consists of is "everyone joins mage bot Navi and when the leader calls out an enemy name, the druid(s) paralyzes then the leader combo's them dead 1 by 1.
I belive sorceres are good because:
They can rush levels MUCH faster than a druid can.. and in war your leader should always be a mage... however druids should be paralyzing etc, and as the battle commander you do not want to be wasting your mana on paralyzing, you should always keep full mana.
I think sorcerers should be battle commanders, and they all use magebot navi and speedhack, so they will be banned after 30~ days of being the battle commander.
Rush levels on Sorceres, then be the leader of the team and dominate until your banned.. and while you're using mage bot on ur leading char, bot several other sorc's up using xeno (because it's boss) and when your leading char is banned, you have one already started and ready to pg quickly and command again.
The ban lengths are so far apart i believe that making several sorc's and risking them to be banned is a viable method, if you use a druid as your battle commander (navi leader) then being banned kinda sucks more... because it will take longer to level the druid back up (generally speaking) and you lose a very important role in war, PARALYZE.
TLDR: Sorceres can rush levels fast, allowing you to use magebot dash and be the combo leader, when banned you can rush another sorc quickly.
Druids can't rush levels as fast, and losing a druid means losing a paralyze, losing sorc means losing 1xsd...
Sorcers, best vocation for combo leader ;)
Is it just me or do you still get deleted for botting?
Mannow
10-31-2012, 08:57 AM
You will get deleted if you use functions without randomized timers, such as scripts that "eat food every 264 seconds" and shit like that.
That is why xenobot uses randomized timers like that for everything.
Xenobot itself will most likely never get you banned, its the users that use stupid scripts that will get them banned, and that is complete user error not directly xenobot related...
Also if you use dash and auto loot with magebot, auto haste and shit like that, can get you banned pretty easily,
However dash is VERY much advantageous in war... that's why many people decide to just use magebot dash at full boost timers for 30+ days before they are banned, destroying everything... the once banned... easily rushing levels.
But yeah, it's all the gold spammers that are actually banned... not botters ;)
That;s why they don't simply release the names of botters as a name and shame thing.. because then we will all know it's 99% level 8's ;)
You will get deleted if you use functions without randomized timers, such as scripts that "eat food every 264 seconds" and shit like that.
That is why xenobot uses randomized timers like that for everything.
Xenobot itself will most likely never get you banned, its the users that use stupid scripts that will get them banned, and that is complete user error not directly xenobot related...
Also if you use dash and auto loot with magebot, auto haste and shit like that, can get you banned pretty easily,
However dash is VERY much advantageous in war... that's why many people decide to just use magebot dash at full boost timers for 30+ days before they are banned, destroying everything... the once banned... easily rushing levels.
But yeah, it's all the gold spammers that are actually banned... not botters ;)
That;s why they don't simply release the names of botters as a name and shame thing.. because then we will all know it's 99% level 8's ;)
Ye it i totally agree its just most of those annoying mf's in dp and on trade.
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