Solution for the anti-ban system?

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01-15-2016, 05:02 PM
texmex47

Solution for the anti-ban system?

So this is just my theory. No facts.

I've noticed that if I create an account, and bot with it on same machine and same IP, it will almost always get deleted.
But if I create the account on another machine, another IP. And I make the first login of my character there, then it never gets deleted.
I do this on a machine that I don't even have Tibia installed on. Some spare computer or a cellphone. And create account + login through flash client once only.

I downloaded Puffin Web Browser, for iPhone. It has flash in it.
And lately, I've been creating my main accounts through that.
I then also login to the character, and I actually play to lvl 3 on my iPhone (it's extremely difficult, lol).
I always do that on my 3G or 4G net too, which changes IP every now and then.

When I've done that, I start botting on my computer, with a brand-new IP.
And never, ever, got caught this way.

I've tested it a few times, and if I don't create the account on another computer, or on my phone, it gets deleted after 2 weeks max.

So do you think this could be something?
That they only (or mainly) check your account's machine it was created on. Not the machine it is botting on.
And an iPhone seems to be the best way, because I doubt there is a way for them to scan my phone.

I've never been deleted for botting, other than the times I've botted+created account on same PC.
Even brand-new PCs! So it's not like the PC in particular was "blacklisted" by them.

I think the key to safe botting lies in the creation of your account, and the initial login.
Setting up + logging in and get lvl 3 on an iPhone sounds like a lot. But it really only takes 5 minutes max.
01-16-2016, 08:48 AM
Ryszard

Quote:

Originally Posted by texmex47

So this is just my theory. No facts.

I've noticed that if I create an account, and bot with it on same machine and same IP, it will almost always get deleted.
But if I create the account on another machine, another IP. And I make the first login of my character there, then it never gets deleted.
I do this on a machine that I don't even have Tibia installed on. Some spare computer or a cellphone. And create account + login through flash client once only.

I downloaded Puffin Web Browser, for iPhone. It has flash in it.
And lately, I've been creating my main accounts through that.
I then also login to the character, and I actually play to lvl 3 on my iPhone (it's extremely difficult, lol).
I always do that on my 3G or 4G net too, which changes IP every now and then.

When I've done that, I start botting on my computer, with a brand-new IP.
And never, ever, got caught this way.

I've tested it a few times, and if I don't create the account on another computer, or on my phone, it gets deleted after 2 weeks max.

So do you think this could be something?
That they only (or mainly) check your account's machine it was created on. Not the machine it is botting on.
And an iPhone seems to be the best way, because I doubt there is a way for them to scan my phone.

I've never been deleted for botting, other than the times I've botted+created account on same PC.
Even brand-new PCs! So it's not like the PC in particular was "blacklisted" by them.

I think the key to safe botting lies in the creation of your account, and the initial login.
Setting up + logging in and get lvl 3 on an iPhone sounds like a lot. But it really only takes 5 minutes max.

What about very old, and high level accounts?
01-17-2016, 01:26 PM
Kody

I like how you say "I think the key to safe botting lies in the creation of your account, and the initial login."

because I hink you are on to something here.
01-20-2016, 07:22 PM
texmex47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryszard

What about very old, and high level accounts?

I've only witnessed high levels from old accounts, get deleted by mass-reports. Like lvl 450-500+.
I dont know any old accounts that has been deleted, other than mass-deletions from warmodes and such.
But thats just what I have personally seen. In my opinion, old accounts (created on other computers) seem a lot safer than new ones and accounts that bot on same account since day 1.
01-20-2016, 07:24 PM
texmex47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kody

I like how you say "I think the key to safe botting lies in the creation of your account, and the initial login."

because I hink you are on to something here.

I think CipSoft checks something in your PC when you login and stuff. They record some shit about the hardware.
I dont know if it would be just the very first login, or maybe like once a month or once a year.

But ever since I started creating accounts on a phone or another computer that I don't bot with, those accounts never got deleted.
And I've been botting since TibiaBot NG era. So it's been like 8 years now. I've only been deleted a few times, and that was only when I created those accounts on my bot pc.

Also; does someone know if you can bot on a Mac, with Wine or something (that allows you to run windows software).
Can CipSoft's tool scan your computer then? I dont think they can do anything on Mac. So maybe thats another way?
Not a virtual machine with windows on mac. But something like "Wine" for mac. So your OS would still be mac.
Dont think same would work with Linux though, because they do have a linux client. I think they are able to check Linux systems.