Originally Posted by
XtrmJosh
The primary reason is because not all Nazi leaders (nor party members) were German. For instance, Leonardo Conti was Swiss / Italian, and there are no official documents to suggest a German heritage. The fact is what you're saying here is that the Germans are bad and the Polish are innocent, well, in all reality no country is completely innocent, and no single country can be accused of such crimes as being responsible for an entire world war. Admittedly the majority of Germans at the time were supporters of the Nazi party, but you know what? In reality, that's a perfectly understandable thing to do, to support such a party. Their beliefs were primarily socially acceptable, and their efficiency as a country could well have earned them world domination despite how many people they would need to slaughter and torture. Innocent people suffered, yeah, and guilty people committed crimes of war, but they did it because of what they were brainwashed to believe. This is gonna sound incredibly racist to the feeble minded, but everyone is capable of being brainwashed into believing in a cause, it just takes the right amount of suggestion and subtlety. I was raised in Roman Catholic and Christian schools, and although I don't like to admit it to many of my friends, colleagues, and even my girlfriend, I still maintain a belief in a God of some definition, and a large portion of what I've read in my religions books and scriptures. All that in the same way that many of the people who today are doctors, scientists and even leading politicians actually still believe in religions such as Buddhism, Islam, and other religions which personally I look at and just think "what the fuck?!" The fact is, I've been programmed since childhood to believe in a certain thing, and they have been programmed to believe in something which my programming simply cannot comprehend due to the variance in nature of the two.
I strongly believe the people of Germany even under Nazi leadership to be innocent, and guilty of little more than being gullible. Being gullible, by the way, is not a crime.
Another reason that I say "Nazi Leaders" is because the people of Germany had very little influence over political decisions that were made during Nazi rule. The leaders commissioned work to be done, and the people simply blindly obeyed... Maybe if they had been raised with a different perspective on life they would have rebelled and a lot of lives would have been spared. Maybe if I had been raised differently I wouldn't waste my time trying to educate people on the internet about things they complain about, but don't entirely understand. Who knows? All we know is it has happened, and there is little more we can do about it than mourn. If people decide to spread propaganda, let them do so. It will be the weak minded and foolish who fall for it, and they will not obtain power under any current government in my opinion.
Another example of this brainwashing is the way that you have been led to believe that Poland was solely a victim of the Nazi leadership over Germany, when in reality the Polish government at the time refused many German legislations which effectively would have allied the countries (and eventually lead to a much stronger community build of several of the European countries today). All that Hitler was trying to achieve realistically was for Germany to be "Europe" as we know it today (excluding some territories which had been promised to allied Japan). The racist side of the war has been exacerbated so much by the media that the Nazi party have been portrayed as nothing more than fowl minded cretins with no stronger desire than that to kill. Now, I'm not saying that they were innocent of racism by any means, as there are numerous clear signs of racism during the war, but you cannot say that racism was the entire cause. As Poland gradually refused more and more proposals from Germany which would've allied the two countries, the Nazi party announced to the German people that the Polish leaders were refusing to ally, therefore were only willing to be enemies, and that's the real spark that set the factory off. The people got more and more angry, and became more and more disillusioned, fearing that Poland was developing an army of more power than their own, and due to the propaganda that was spread at the time, they eventually invaded, with many Germans (as well as Nazi leaders) holding an unconfirmed belief that the Polish people were sub-human, and wanted to do exactly what they were doing. If you think about that, you'll realise that if Germany hadn't invaded Poland, there is every possibility that Poland would have invaded Germany, and then you'd be writing a completely different story on a completely different website potentially in a completely different language.
Fortunately gone are the days when territory, power, and land are the influences over a countries decision to go to war... Now we just blame it on pimps and do it for the gas.
