The Draconian Mystery & More. . .

Very intresting read, i liked how you pointed out that one vial in Draconia that could had been added to 'guide' us closer to the ending of the mystery.

Not so long ago a friend of mine told me about this book in the Ankrahmun Temple Library, he said it gave the clues about what items and how it would go about it. He sadly din't exactly remember the names of the items (his english wasnt really smooth so he forgot) but he said what i believe was 5 items (2 of course stacked), you can find the book here by yourself:

http://i50.tinypic.com/2vjdhg7.jpg

•POSSIBLE SPOILERS•

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By the powers that remain and the powers of old,
by the wisdom of the scarab and the kiss of the scorpion,
by the infinity of the sand and the eternity of the mountains,
by the life-giving powers of water and air,
by the death-bringing powers of fire and lightning,
by the blessing of death and the revelations of undeath,
this corpse shall rise from the grave,
this corpse shall break the shackles of life,
this corpse shall seek wisdom,
this corpse shall serve the one.
Praised be our pharaoh!

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Posting so I can keep up with the thread. Nice work, keep it up.

I was wondering if anyone wanna start up a rpq team to come up with new quests and such things discussed on this topic

great read

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Originally Posted by martinpwnage

Very intresting read, i liked how you pointed out that one vial in Draconia that could had been added to 'guide' us closer to the ending of the mystery.

Not so long ago a friend of mine told me about this book in the Ankrahmun Temple Library, he said it gave the clues about what items and how it would go about it. He sadly din't exactly remember the names of the items (his english wasnt really smooth so he forgot) but he said what i believe was 5 items (2 of course stacked), you can find the book here by yourself:

http://i50.tinypic.com/2vjdhg7.jpg

•POSSIBLE SPOILERS•

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Very interesting, I'll get on it too.

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Originally Posted by thorekz

I was wondering if anyone wanna start up a rpq team to come up with new quests and such things discussed on this topic

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I'm up for anything, we should make a group here in forums to find people who might be interested.

Atheist.

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Originally Posted by Atheist

I'm up for anything, we should make a group here in forums to find people who might be interested.
Atheist.

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We should! i suggest a non pvp world though, it'll be easier with less pks :p

This topic is, hands down, the most awesome read on the forums! Makes my whole heart tickle with excitement to start doing RPGïng! And yeah, woulnd't it be AWESOME to have a big chunk of players reading so many books/talking to NPCs and digging the net for prettymuch anything.

We should get some Google Drive-ish kind of storage with eachother, create a guild on a non-pvp server and catogorize everything we meet. Books in a books folder, with a town subfolder and maybe even quest related sub folders in there, haha. The way of communicating and keeping track of everything we come across is a million percent better than back in the days when most of these "quests" were introduced, its like a major head start. And beside that we could all continue leveling our main chars, haha.


Yeah, Im up for it.

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Originally Posted by Rmw

This topic is, hands down, the most awesome read on the forums! Makes my whole heart tickle with excitement to start doing RPGïng! And yeah, woulnd't it be AWESOME to have a big chunk of players reading so many books/talking to NPCs and digging the net for prettymuch anything.

We should get some Google Drive-ish kind of storage with eachother, create a guild on a non-pvp server and catogorize everything we meet. Books in a books folder, with a town subfolder and maybe even quest related sub folders in there, haha. The way of communicating and keeping track of everything we come across is a million percent better than back in the days when most of these "quests" were introduced, its like a major head start. And beside that we could all continue leveling our main chars, haha.


Yeah, Im up for it.

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Sounds awesome, I've been reading quite a couple books and got almost 344 keywords to try with NPCs, I wonder it's possible to make a script that can say them 1 by 1 with a little delay inbetween to speed up the process, any takers?

Atheist.

I haven't seen this side of tibia in years. It makes me remember why I started playing this game

Well if i may suggest a server i got a 150 rp in fidera which im not using atm and could use for roleplaying intentions

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Originally Posted by thorekz

Well if i may suggest a server i got a 150 rp in fidera which im not using atm and could use for roleplaying intentions

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This is perfect i got a character there also =)

Being in the same world inst that necessary, all we need is to get organized, atm I'm still peeking at books and getting keywords and possible valid info out of em, there's so much to research I wouldnt know where to start, my guess would be either Kaz, Hellgate or Ank~, if I get permission from a friend to use his teamspeak would you guys be willing to try it?

@martinpwnage
@thorekz
@Rmw
@ Anyone else interested!

Atheist.

@Atheist we can sure give it a try, anything done is a step forward =)

I have a 200 RP on Secura I can role play with. Never done rpging to this extent so ill post all my findings.

I'll gladly help out, not moving to non-pvp tho

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List including new vocabulary which is necessary to translate Jaul's message. Kindly provided by Amaro De Quester.

there = jih
safety = gihl
for = oh
humanity = gouthnai
human = gouthna
press/press on = lhum
against = dju
strike/force = djou
wipe = dojh
waves = jhlai
reign = enifar
serve = usk
well/good = fij
bathe = jhlika
swim = jhljh
wade/to wade through = jhlo
borgeia = Borgea, the (location)
to count/countless = thli
day/days = fieth
sand = gathn
blight/plague/pest = bojh
swamp = bromeh
jhlosk = Undersea, the (location)
Gwob = Gwob, the One
travel = motomh
their = nai
tokjhli = ship
sun/sunlight = fiejhi
mirror = hongou
together = njai
my = jhi
brother/brothers = sumjh
brother/brothers-in-arms = sumjhkh
to prevail = qukh
to return = bajar

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Quoted from CM Mirade. Perhaps this could help in Ankrahmun / Darama / Darashia

id be willing to join you guys, sounds like fun :p

well whatever world id join, could be antica aswell got a 25 sorcerer

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Originally Posted by thorekz

well whatever world id join, could be antica aswell got a 25 sorcerer

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Antica represent!

A lot of nice reads in this thread (: keep the information coming.

Great thread.
I wonder about those boots of waterwalking. Wouldnt it take you to the end of map or w.e.. I dont think those existed, or that guy ever had them

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Originally Posted by zodiacboner

Great thread.
I wonder about those boots of waterwalking. Wouldnt it take you to the end of map or w.e.. I dont think those existed, or that guy ever had them

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Sorry, I got facts messed up, in his interview he mentions he got softs and uses the walterwalking as reference, not the other way around, sorry 'bout that.

Atheist.

Environment and IDs; Factor or Coincidence?

Well, as we all know, when it comes to questing, sometimes there are enviromental factors that pulls you to "quest solving", an example would be a death tree in the middle of nowhere or a room shaped as a freaking pentagram, although sometimes this may just be situational coincidences (I do not believe in coincidence) we cant discard anything after it has been proven possible (e.g. a key in a dead tree).

As I've mentioned repetedely in this thread if something is possible once it is possible always, so, using the above example, if it's possible to get a key out of a tree, that means every tree is a quest-prospect, insane thinking for insane posibilities.

Now as the above example is simply too vague, in this part of the thread we're gonna focus on something a little more especific.

IDs.

That's right, IDs.

But how can IDs help us out in questing you say? well it's pretty simple.

IDs work certain way, for example, we cant see the difference between:

http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...psc7c3d5c2.png
A dead tree with a key. . .


http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...psa95e0472.png
. . .and a normal dead tree.


. . .or. . .


http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...ps680b5a53.png
A pushable switch. . .


http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...psa2a5cb47.png
. . . and an unpushable one.


Since IDs are all about looks, images, shapes or whatever, does that mean we're shit outta luck?, well, ALMOST, here is what ID CAN actually tell us.

The difference between:

http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...ps23374aa7.png
A simply closed door. . .


http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2897d148.png
. . . and a closed & LOCKED door.


Who gives a shit you might ask, well, details like this ones are to be taken into account, for example, there are cases in which there is a locked door BEHIND another locked door, this is an obvious sign of the certain place to be inaccesible or simply decorative, like the Kazordoon fortress example above, but there are certain places (specially places that we can now safely see with Xeno's spy (thanks @DarkstaR)) that show an unlucked door behind a locked one which may be ALSO decorative but gives us a hint!

Except for a few exceptions; a key is mostly used for only 1 door, in which case, doors behind that closed door must need either another key or to be open, if the bot shows us there's an open door between a closed one (and taking into account that places with SEVERAL locked doors DO exist) we can only but conclude that THAT place is in fact; accesible, if not why would CIP bother differencing them?

What good is that? well, at least with this info we can know that certain particular places ARE INFACT accesible, you will be sure you arent losing your time with something that's there JUST to look pretty, which is an abysmal difference when RPing.

But enough digressing, lets get to the real interesting stuff.

Thanks to IDs we can see the difference between:

http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...psb63d801f.png
Normal random chests. . .


http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...ps262871aa.png
. . . & quest chests.

So now that we think we can distinguish between accesible and non-accesible places, but we are not sure and everything else has failed, we can check if any container inside that locked place is in fact quest-giving or not.

Ofc there are exceptions to the rule, like the coffin in Draconia where key number 4 is hidden or this:

http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6c8c0fee.png
Which just contains a scarf but could aswell contain a key.


Let me use this pic as an example:

http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...ps04dd80b1.png
This is inside Hellgate, what concerns to the dead body, it has no volume so it most be quest related (Idk if this is a known quest).


http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...psbf459962.png
Again, hellgate, those doors have the same ID, both are closed, but that's not all. . .


http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9966c933.png
. . . all the containers on the first and second floor of that building have volume, "but wait! they may contain something anyway!" well. . . taking into consideration that the inside of that place IS in fact locked by 2 different doors and it's structure doesnt have at least 1 quest container, I'd say it's simply a distraction, since the skeleton behind the quest door DOES NOT have volume and thus~ contains a quest-related item, so what does this tell me? Nothing concrete, really, but. . . it does help setting your priorities, something like: Forget about the house, focus on getting to the skeleton.

Again, this is just my opinion.

(Note that doors IDs arent all the same, they are considered by the estructure sorrounding them)

Having all this in mind, I think it's pretty clear that in other to FIND you gotta OBSERVE, but not just the obvious shit that's infront of you, also little details like, for example:

http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...psc8494a5a.png
This type of basin we dont see very often. . . if it is used to give offerings in this quest. . .


http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...psc47c0031.png
. . . why shouldnt this one serve the same purpose?

Again, and I cant stress this enough, all this is improvisation and deliriums of mine, I'm just throwing out ideas as I get em. See it like Junior High Algebra, it's useless, its only purpose is to excersise the mind.

Keep posted for more upates,
Atheist.

Loving this thread. Great read, really making me get back to being interested in Tibia again! might go start exploring a little myself xD

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Originally Posted by zbizu

secret sheep level was removed, last videos of it were proven fake
about this video - it wasn't fake I was on testserver as well as near spectulus after update, I saw people making exp on bugged npc Spectulus, they didn't fixed it after testserver, people were making it till emergency bugfix. You can google more about it, many people had a discussion.
Cipsoft found buggers probably via their oversized "storages" (database request like in ot).

My thoughts on bonelords language:
It's edited enigma encryption somehow related to 4 6 9(maybe a hint on rotators cycle), encryption has only 0-9 cycle instead of A-Z and bits are somehow equeal in binary meaning(eg. small c is 099), but when I started to read about Enigma on wikipedia I gave up trying to decode it in excel.

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Originally Posted by Red

@zbizu: It would make sense for the Germans to make their secret code a knock-off of the engima code.
Good idea, wonder if it's ever been proposed.

Red

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2 quotes from otland that got me thinking ;d

Very nice! Ashame I retired. I may come back, however, to try and lend a helping hand.

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Originally Posted by martinpwnage

Very intresting read, i liked how you pointed out that one vial in Draconia that could had been added to 'guide' us closer to the ending of the mystery.

Not so long ago a friend of mine told me about this book in the Ankrahmun Temple Library, he said it gave the clues about what items and how it would go about it. He sadly din't exactly remember the names of the items (his english wasnt really smooth so he forgot) but he said what i believe was 5 items (2 of course stacked), you can find the book here by yourself:

http://i50.tinypic.com/2vjdhg7.jpg

•POSSIBLE SPOILERS•

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Horestis' tomb came to my mind as soon as I read the spoilers :p

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Originally Posted by Atheist

Enviroment; Factor or Coincidence?

Well, as we all know, when it comes to questing, sometimes there are enviromental factors that pulls you to "quest solving", an example would be a death tree in the middle of nowhere or a room shaped as a freaking pentagram, although sometimes this may just be situational coincidences (I do not believe in coincidence) we cant discard anything after it has been proven possible (e.g. a key in a dead tree).

As I've mentioned repetedely in this thread if something is possible once it is possible always, so, using the above example, if it's possible to get a key out of a tree, that means every tree is a quest-prospect, insane thinking for insane posibilities.

Now as the above example is simply too vague, in this part of the thread we're gonna focus on something a little more especific.

IDs.

That's right, IDs.

But how can IDs help us out in questing you say? well it's pretty simple.

IDs work certain way, for example, we cant see the difference between:

http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...psc7c3d5c2.png
A dead tree with a key. . .


http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...psa95e0472.png
. . .and a normal dead tree.


. . .or. . .


http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...ps680b5a53.png
A pushable switch. . .


http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...psa2a5cb47.png
. . . and an unpushable one.


Since IDs are all about looks, images, shapes or whatever, does that mean we're shit outta luck?, well, ALMOST, here is what ID CAN actually tell us.

The difference between:

http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...ps23374aa7.png
A simply closed door. . .


http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2897d148.png
. . . and a closed & LOCKED door.


Who gives a shit you might ask, well, details like this ones are to be taken into account, for example, there are cases in which there is a locked door BEHIND another locked door, this is an obvious sign of the certain place to be inaccesible or simply decorative, like the Kazordoon fortress example above, but there are certain places (specially places that we can now safely see with Xeno's spy (thanks @DarkstaR)) that show an unlucked door behind a locked one which may be ALSO decorative but gives us a hint!

Except for a few exceptions; a key is mostly used for only 1 door, in which case, doors behind that closed door must need either another key or to be open, if the bot shows us there's an open door between a closed one (and taking into account that places with SEVERAL locked doors DO exist) we can only but conclude that THAT place is in fact; accesible, if not why would CIP bother differencing them?

What good is that? well, at least with this info we can know that certain particular places ARE INFACT accesible, you will be sure you arent losing your time with something that's there JUST to look pretty, which an abysmal difference when RPing.

But enough digressing, lets get to the real interesting stuff.

Thanks to IDs we can see the difference between:

http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...psb63d801f.png
Normal random chests. . .


http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...ps262871aa.png
. . . & quest chests.

So now that we think we can distinguish between accesible and non-accesible places, but we are not sure and everything else has failed, we can check if any container inside that locked place is in fact quest-giving or not.

Ofc there are exceptions to the rule, like the coffin in Draconia where key number 4 is hidden or this:

http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6c8c0fee.png
Which just contains a scarf but could aswell contain a key.


Let me use this pic as an example:

http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...ps04dd80b1.png
This is inside Hellgate, what concerns to the dead body, it has no volume so it most be quest related (Idk if this is a known quest).


http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...psbf459962.png
Again, hellgate, those doors have the same ID, both are closed, but that's not all. . .


http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9966c933.png
. . . all the containers on the first and second floor of that building have volume, "but wait! they may contain something anyway!" well. . . taking into consideration that the inside of that place IS in fact locked by 2 different doors and it's structure doesnt have at least 1 quest container, I'd say it's simply a distraction, since the skeleton behind the quest door DOES NOT have volume and thus~ contains a quest-related item, so what does this tell me? Nothing concrete, really, but. . . it does help setting your priorities, something like: Forget about the house, focus on getting to the skeleton.

Again, this is just my opinion.

(Note that doors IDs arent all the same, they are considered by the estructure sorrounding them)

Having all this in mind, I think it's pretty clear that in other to FIND you gotta OBSERVE, but not just the obvious shit that's infront of you, also little details like, for example:

http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...psc8494a5a.png
This type of basin we dont see very often. . . if it is used to give offerings in this quest. . .


http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...psc47c0031.png
. . . why shouldnt this one serve the same purpose?

Again, and I cant stress this enough, all this is improvisation and deliriums of mine, I'm just throwing out ideas as I get em. See it like Junior High Algebra, it's useless, its only purpose is to excersise the mind.

Keep posted for more upates,
Atheist.

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Reading this quote, maybe the Hellgate chests that have container structure aren't just a distraction... Maybe you're falling into what normal players do... if it's not a clickable-to-get-loot chest, it is useless... they might have something.

Also, this might be useless, but I remember on an otserver that doors weren't locked, going up on that fortress on Kazordoon but leaving because I was low level.. this was 6-7 years ago or something. It might have something related to the emperor's room, as with a bit of logic you find out that they're the "guards" of Kazordoon, but they're common monsters, not like Thais guards or Carlin guards. Also the floors are really long.. I wish I had level spy to check that, but as you guys have, it's a good idea to give it a try.

I'd join you guys on the server you decide (won't level too much, though as I can't level too many accounts at the same time and I have too many of them), if you need a guy like me who's just interested on RPG but a hard quitter :(

And by the way, I think the Jakundaf desert should be the least priority. :p

So whilst looking at the Jakundaf Desert on wikia. I decided to look at the library and came across a book.

The contents are as follows;

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On mixing potions.

Now, being a really old magician, I decided to write down some of the formulas of potions I invented during my lifetime. First I thought it will be best to give clear advices for everyone to mix them. But after some days of crucial thinking I had a vision - everyone would be able to mix these powerful but dangerous potions within minutes without being aware of the consequences! It needs lot of wisdom and willpower to become a experienced and responsible magician. This doesn't mean to be cowardish - it means that you know your powers and that you exactly know your limits! So, to prevent misuse of this knowledge i will write down these formulas in ****, a very old language only known by the wisest sorcerers.

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It is about mixing potions. Now I'm not sure where the book is for the "formulas" but they seem to be written in "****" which is supposedly a "very old language". I'm going to suggest looking a morse code for this.

Hit me up if you find anything!

Made a github

http://otland.net/f257/post-your-findings-here-181430/

Information can be found there.

I'm really interested in doing this, and I shall succeed.

A sweaty cyclops; an example of CIP's (Knightmare's?) genius?

For almost a decade A Sweaty Cyclops has existed to torment us with promises of great wepons of old.

In 2003 it was the promise of the mighty Fire Sword (one of the best reasonably-obtainable weapons) and a few updates later, the promise of the almighty Warlord Sword.

Mulf stated he got a Warlord sword via questing. . . "no wonder" we used to think.

http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...ps82ef98fb.png
The lovely sweaty cyclops openly gives it if you give him the right items, which items? No one knows.

Ofc, there's also the alternate option around the rumor of:

http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/...ps20e4227b.jpg
This room, where people believe (and Mulf also mentions in his interview) is one of the rooms that may contain a Warlord sword (or Great Axe) as a reward, the legend tells in this room you have to sacrifice all the tibian Tomes in order to get the reward.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...ilisk_cave.jpg
Or even the always intriguin' wonder, where the Dwarven Emperor openly states that we would pay a "Handsome" reward for anyone brave enough to diliver him the Basilisk corpse.

But this are just rumors, lets get back to what appears to be "the sure thing" the goddamn Cyclops.

And I call it that way because he OPENLY OFFERS YOU A FUCKING WARLORD SWORD.

But here's the thing:

We know that:

Mulf got that sword BEFORE 2007.

Alot before 2007 rumors said you had to diliver an ungodly amount of "Pieces of Iron" to the Sweaty Cyclopse to get it. So we know that before 2007 the Cyclopse offered you a Warlord sword.

& the most important thing. . . in 2007 CIP's servers were hacked, NPC info stolen and filtred (regards to @DarkstaR) and what do we see? well, supposedly "everything" every time an item plays a role in conversations, its ID is mentioned and the (quote) "QuestValue" is entered, which leave little to the emagination, although this was used for "evil" (quest solving) not even then it was clear how to get the rare Tomes/Great Axe/Warlord sword, there was also no entries of the supposed 469 (Beholder/Bonelord) language and certainly, not a damn fucking thing about the Sweaty Cyclopse.

Even tho~ you guys SHOULD check the NPCs entries I wont make you have to research that rather confusing (at first) way NPCs work. So I'll explain you with a simple example.

When an NPC entry is quest-related, before the "keyword" there's an entry called "QuestValue" which leaves clear that everything inbetween that is quest-related, this includes words AND items, I'll simplify it for you:

(Blood Herb quest) Wyda "QuestValue" (now we know it's a quest) > "blood herb" (what you must say) > "13367" (ID of the item Wyda expects).

It is something like that with every quest-related NPC that needs keywords/expects an item.

But there is nothing with the Sweaty Cyclopse.

The option where he offers you a Warlord Sword is there, but it isnt quest related there is no other option other than "You no have stuff me want for"

So what does this mean?

It means 1 of this:

Mulf lied? (Yeahh ok)
The quest was removed before the data was stolen?
CIP's just teasing you & that was never the way to get it.

But how can we know for sure?

Are they just tryin' to be assholes by offering us an ungettable Warlord Sword?
Did the quest exist and was removed?
Was it changed because of the leak and now you need the permission of a mighty dwarven smith and 100 pieces of every steel the cyclopse forges in your backback for him to react? (lol)

We dont know and what you think you know is INVALID.

This is just an example, but now. . . think about it.

It isnt just about weapons, Mulf got Soft boots before PoI, and all the tomes (except Grey, which he states it was gettable by questing anyway) we got every damn NPC information and THERE IS NO CLUE ABOUT ANY OF THIS ITEMS? NOT EVEN 1?

I mean, I wouldnt be surprised if the quests or clues were there and BECAUSE OF THE LEAK they were changed or something, but it wasnt, there is NOTHING in that NPC info that once led to any of those once gettable rare items.

I REFUSE to accept that Big Ben (the Cyc) was created almost 10 years ago FOR NO REASON AT ALL, but all the gathered info indicates it could be true.

And if it isnt and he DID served a purpose and was removed just like that, what tells us they havent done exactly that with every single oldschool brain-teasing quest?

So. . . what now?

Atheist.

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Originally Posted by Beo

Made a github

http://otland.net/f257/post-your-findings-here-181430/

Information can be found there.

I'm really interested in doing this, and I shall succeed.

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Good stuff!, the more involded people, the better.

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Originally Posted by RoxZin xD

Reading this quote, maybe the Hellgate chests that have container structure aren't just a distraction... Maybe you're falling into what normal players do... if it's not a clickable-to-get-loot chest, it is useless... they might have something.

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You gotta keep in mind that we are not supposed to know all those chests are NOT quest related, that's our little cheating secret, for all they know, we're all drooling looking at those 3 chests from below.

Atheist.

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Originally Posted by Atheist

So. . . what now?

Atheist.

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Now...we get a set of tomes and 100 of any metal ingame...




Joking aside, you are correct if they did make it obtainable by "questing" and mulf was NOT lying, but then they removed it since the leak of NPC files............then i wouldn't be surprised.





also would be a dick move by cip

I actually just signed up here, so I could stop lurking this thread & post, but anyways.
This may sound really "nooby" of me, but the files that were stolen in 7.4~ or whenever they were stolen, did the person who stole them actually ever release it to the public? & if they did, what if the person edited out anything that has to do with the quests, just so no one else has information on the quests?

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Originally Posted by Joshuadaman

I actually just signed up here, so I could stop lurking this thread & post, but anyways.
This may sound really "nooby" of me, but the files that were stolen in 7.4~ or whenever they were stolen, did the person who stole them actually ever release it to the public? & if they did, what if the person edited out anything that has to do with the quests, just so no one else has information on the quests?

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I thought about that to.

I thought about that possibility, but think about it, after the titanic job of pinpointing the quests, they would've had to erase EVERY quest entry (begining and end) AND all the keywords with potential to lead you to quest related ones.

And that's exactly where I think we should begin.

Atm I'm pasting all NPC entries in a word document, getting rid of programming shit and cleaning it up so just keywords are left to be seen.

After I do it I'll go to NPCs and say the keywords hoping for an unrecorded one to show up.

Even tho this could be futile, I'd still learn alot about the history of Tibia &/or anything that could lead somewhere.

The ideal thing to do here would be to make aglobal list of keywords and try the whole list with EVERY NPC, but that seems a little insane, maybe if a script could be made it'd be a viable option.

Concerning the Cyclops for exmaple, he mentions the different kinds of "Ancient steel" that existed and the NPC Edowir gives you a nice insight of each of this kinds of steel & even tho~ Big Ben says he doesnt forge ancient steel, he could be lying. Many of those steels are Dwarfish tho~ that takes us back to Kaz where I really think something serious hides.

Atheist.

Just a little thought, maybe if it all leads back to Kaz, it could be with that guy that tells you he will give you a nice reward or whatever for getting Basilisk Skin, & over there in the Soldier Caves there's a sign that says "Beware Of The Basilisk" . Even though no one's seen a Basilisk down there, maybe there's some secret hole or something down there, than finding the Basalisk and collecting his skin & returning it to the NPC Will give you some kind of key, or something to point where to lead at next for one of the quests.
I doubt that sign is there for no reason

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Just a little thought, maybe if it all leads back to Kaz, it could be with that guy that tells you he will give you a nice reward or whatever for getting Basilisk Skin, & over there in the Soldier Caves there's a sign that says "Beware Of The Basilisk" . Even though no one's seen a Basilisk down there, maybe there's some secret hole or something down there, than finding the Basalisk and collecting his skin & returning it to the NPC Will give you some kind of key, or something to point where to lead at next for one of the quests.
I doubt that sign is there for no reason

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Yeah, who knows.

For all we know, using a pick in a wall could freaking tp you to the basilisk or something, lol.

Atheist.

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Yeah, who knows.

For all we know, using a pick in a wall could freaking tp you to the basilisk or something, lol.

Atheist.

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lol really anything is possible, saying a certain word on a certain SQM could TP you :P

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I actually just signed up here, so I could stop lurking this thread & post, but anyways.
This may sound really "nooby" of me, but the files that were stolen in 7.4~ or whenever they were stolen, did the person who stole them actually ever release it to the public? & if they did, what if the person edited out anything that has to do with the quests, just so no one else has information on the quests?

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They were indeed released, the 7.72 files.

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Originally Posted by Atheist

I thought about that possibility, but think about it, after the titanic job of pinpointing the quests, they would've had to erase EVERY quest entry (begining and end) AND all the keywords with potential to lead you to quest related ones.

And that's exactly where I think we should begin.

Atm I'm pasting all NPC entries in a word document, getting rid of programming shit and cleaning it up so just keywords are left to be seen.

After I do it I'll go to NPCs and say the keywords hoping for an unrecorded one to show up.

Even tho this could be futile, I'd still learn alot about the history of Tibia &/or anything that could lead somewhere.

The ideal thing to do here would be to make aglobal list of keywords and try the whole list with EVERY NPC, but that seems a little insane, maybe if a script could be made it'd be a viable option.

Concerning the Cyclops for exmaple, he mentions the different kinds of "Ancient steel" that existed and the NPC Edowir gives you a nice insight of each of this kinds of steel & even tho~ Big Ben says he doesnt forge ancient steel, he could be lying. Many of those steels are Dwarfish tho~ that takes us back to Kaz where I really think something serious hides.

Atheist.

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Cyclops is a dead end. The npc file was posted on tibia.com forums. But who knows there could be external files also that haven't been released?

Few interesting things here;
http://www.freewebs.com/emkorlibera/...oldupdates.htm

I thought I'd go check the so called "spell parchment" place. But I think theres more to it.
http://4.imgland.net/GWvwk3.png
To the north is a one way with a floor tile that you can step on, but when you step onto it, you have to step back onto it to get out. There were a few chests there too (past the step in tile) though all had volume.
I then noticed that there was never anything spawned here and now theres Troll Champions and it seems they have updated the map with the black tiles etc. It used to be just mud. Why would they update this area?

http://1.imgland.net/CMxlLV.png

What is this lever for?