The Draconian Mystery & More. . .

Few more stuff I found in kazordoon;

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Treasure room
http://3.imgland.net/-OnGM7.png

Chests which have no volume are quest chests...
http://3.imgland.net/Ihi8rQ.png

http://3.imgland.net/a9rahO.png

Knightmares most recent? interview.

http://www.tibialibrary.org/en/artic...-by-knightmare

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Originally Posted by Beo

Knightmares most recent? interview.

http://www.tibialibrary.org/en/artic...-by-knightmare

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Not really an interview, it was just the npc introduced with 15th anniversary.

http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/Knightmare_(NPC)

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Originally Posted by Infernal Bolt

Not really an interview, it was just the npc introduced with 15th anniversary.

http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/Knightmare_(NPC)

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Found that out 10 mins after posting xd

damn, i would really like to know how we could decipher Knightmares numbers.. I just read this in an interview with him.

Gorak: There are still many mysteries that people wonder about, for example excalibug.

Knightmare: I'd tell you if you'd ask me in be ... uhm bonelord language.

Gorak: Sorry, I am still learning it perhaps I will try again later...

Knightmare: 3478 67 90871 97664 3466 0 345!

http://www.tibialibrary.org/images/b...r_language.png

I find it very hard to belive that he has invented this language himself.. If he has, hes a really smart fellow. If not, what could it be ? some kinda letter-for-words technique, or morsecode?.. ive tried them all by now. all i get is nothing.

Yeah, that "interview" wasnt fit for the ends of this topic and well, 469 is hardly a language, is more like a numeric mess in need of a cipher, without it it'll be impossible to get it that's why he's so sure of himself when he talks about it.

The only ocasions in which mathemagics are mentioned are in Paradox quest; in which you get an achievement of "Mathemagician" and Blinky (Hellgate's librarian), and ofc the only prisoner in mintwall (which idk why, I think is Daraman himself, even tho~ I think he's the Mad Mage, but that's just me) which is the one that gives you the Riddler's answer in the first place. (If you dont know wtf I'm talking about check it out here.

Although mathemagic doesnt play any main rol in tibia, the lone cases it is mentioned dont have the sightlest link to each other, although I dont blame it, after all Blinky says you need to be an EXPERT in mathemagics and in the Paradox Quest, lets face it, we cheat and get the answer from someone else lol.

I think that if this Bonelord BS is solvable at all is through ingame shit rather than tryin' to crack Knightmare's code which is simply impossible. < And with this I mean that if there is in fact a Cipher; it's ingame.

Quest log entry:

Char 1: You learnt Mathemagics. Everything is based on the simple fact that 1+1=94
Char 2: You learnt Mathemagics. Everything is based on the simple fact that 1+1=13
Char 3: You learnt Mathemagics. Everything is based on the simple fact that 1+1=49

Quest log on a couple of chars after finishing Paradox Quest, apparently you can get any number from 1 to 99, maybe that's part of the mystery.

Also, it is said that you can actually save a trip to hellgate if you say the right number without asking the prisoner? (1 in 99 chance) Maybe that gives you a different achievement? Like Master Mathemagician? lol Anyone here know someone who was this lucky?


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Topic=9, "yes", Amount=1 -> "So know that everthing is based on the simple fact that 1 + 1 = 49!", SetQuestValue(1,1)
Topic=9, "yes", Amount=2 -> "So know that everthing is based on the simple fact that 1 + 1 = 94!", SetQuestValue(1,2)
Topic=9, "yes", Amount=3 -> "So know that everthing is based on the simple fact that 1 + 1 = 13!", SetQuestValue(1,3)
Topic=9, "yes", Amount=4 -> "So know that everthing is based on the simple fact that 1 + 1 = 1!", SetQuestValue(1,4)

Apparently in the NPC's entries this are the only possibilities, maybe it isnt 1/99 after all, again, is this a clue or just random BS?

Atheist.

Bump!

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Originally Posted by Atheist

Apparently in the NPC's entries this are the only possibilities, maybe it isnt 1/99 after all, again, is this a clue or just random BS?

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If this is right then you have a 1 in 4 chance of guessing it right when you are there, might aswell try right? :D

To start off, this is one of the most interesting threads I've read in quite some time. I'd love to help, but to be completely honest, I don't have the time or the interest in Tibia anymore to do so.

I'd like to remind you not to forget about the books in the library in Rook, but those are probably just about stuff in rook. However, like you said, you never know ;)


Kudos to you for finding out as much as you have so far. It's probably more than most Tibians ever have/will.

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Originally Posted by Atheist

[*]Did you know Bonelords were once called Beholders?

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Their name was changed because the name "Beholder" was owned by a different company (I think).

@Luls Without a doubt the most interesting read I've had on the forums. It makes you want to start questing and reading books etc eh? Pity for me i'm in the same boat as you when it comes to time.
Whether or not I can be part of this, I will most definitely be following this thread :)
Good luck to you all :)

@Athiest, to help with the keywords script, it's quite simple.

lua code:

local keywords = {'word1','word2','word3','etc'}



print('Starting keyword spam.')

Self.SayToNpc(keyWords, 65)

print('Keyword spam complete.')

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Originally Posted by Nostrax

U can enter this : (don't ask me how tho ^^)

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7307/11111111n.jpg

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If characters stand on each of the two tiles in the library under the desert :P


Also i think this is an amazing thread!

I love the idea, i used to have a designated noob char when i first started. I used to go exploring, which normally resulted in death.
I used to know the free account world like the back of my hand as i was facc for so many years.

I still know it well, but not as well as i did!

Keep up the cool thread, i hope you uncover a secret for all your hard work!

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Originally Posted by Spectrus

@Athiest, to help with the keywords script, it's quite simple.

lua code:

local keywords = {'word1','word2','word3','etc'}



print('Starting keyword spam.')

Self.SayToNpc(keyWords, 65)

print('Keyword spam complete.')

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Beautiful, I'll get on it asap.

Atheist.

Keep it up! makes me wanna go and search for some clues to.

Man I read ur introduction with 110% enthusiasm, fucking hell brought back memories from when i was like 10 years old. All those rumros that existed back then, before wiki (or atleast I didnt know about it), ppl actually told eachother where to hunt, got stuck in quests, (not to mention manual UH (no hotkeys), lvl 19 SD makers, UH makers, no Auction House, great pvp system, List goes ON AND ON), now ppl just check upp Wiki for _EVERYTHING_. Which sucks really.

I will keep looking into this thread!!!

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Originally Posted by Austen

If characters stand on each of the two tiles in the library under the desert :P


Also i think this is an amazing thread!

I love the idea, i used to have a designated noob char when i first started. I used to go exploring, which normally resulted in death.
I used to know the free account world like the back of my hand as i was facc for so many years.

I still know it well, but not as well as i did!

Keep up the cool thread, i hope you uncover a secret for all your hard work!

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So true. Fucking hell, I will NEVER forget when I made some friends ingame, we started a guild and they showed me Amacamp. That was fucking awesome.

And, not to forget, all the deaths at GS bridge. HAHA, was fucking horrible, died so much, but the most thing I remember is when I looted a warrior helmet ofa dead body there and got to DP with it :D Man I was happy!!!

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Originally Posted by Luls

Their name was changed because the name "Beholder" was owned by a different company (I think).

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It belonged to dungeons and dragons

Interesting read, though most of it is a summary of old pictures and articles on TibiaWiki and TibiaNews.

Being the devil's advocate here, I'd like to point out that despite a relatively large amount of people having access to 7.7 version Tibia files as a result of the hack, Remere and Dennis being the most (in)famous ones for creating ClassicTibia and RealOTS, no mysteries, as far as we know, were ever solved through investigating those files.

This suggests that none of those with access to the files were able to find any information to help them obtain some rare treasure, or they did not look hard enough(doubtful), or they found something but have been able to keep it a secret year after year. If they did find something, I'd suspect no unique items were involved, as that would have been hard to keep as a secret from co-conspirators, friends and the general public, in part because it would be invaluable and in part because the finder(s) would desire recognition, either through showing off in depot or house decoration, or through some interview.

In other words, either CipSoft has covered up their tracks so well that not even people with access to their files were able to discern any information, or the finders were too incompetent to find anything, or no solvable mysteries exist, unless CipSoft implemented new clues to the puzzles in the versions thereafter.

I'm not saying there are no mysteries left, I'm simply stating that since no mystery has yet to be solved during these years, despite the immense amount of time and effort by players and hackers to discern any information regarding the whereabouts of items such as the Helmet of the Stars, one can assume that official help would be required from the Staff, which won't happen in the foreseeable future, or that the rare items seen today are nothing more than one-shot opportunities, long since seized by other players, e.g the Grey Tome in Mintwallin, the Demon Legs in DHQ and the Horned Helmet in the Bright Sword Quest.

"name" -> "People call me Xed, but my full name is Xedem."
"Abran","Ironeye" -> "He is the owner of this market, although - just between you and me - I'm not so sure he's honest."
"honest" -> "Well, I overheard the boss discussing some shady deals with a man in a black cloak."
"shady","deals" -> "Something about a sword only great warlords can use and a rare distance fighting item."
"rare","distance" -> "Yes, but I believe this is nothing but lies seeing that there are only a few distance fighting weapons."
"ferumbras" -> "I heard rumours somewhere that his father was called Hugo."
"excalibug" -> "I think that was the sword they were talking about. Said something about a man in Edron that could get it for him."
"news" -> "Some people say Ferumbras isn't really dead. Crazy kids!"
"monster" -> "Yeah, these awful beasts. They live in the swamps near the city and in dark dungeons."
"dungeon" -> "Oh, they are all over. You never see more of them than in Kaz, though."
"Kaz" -> "Oh, that's short for Kazordoon."

Just looking through the npc files seeing if I find anything interesting ;) this thread is awesome bro I remember all of these myths and legends that no one could ever solve and eventually were forgotten, it really gets me wondering hearing it from CIP that there is many unsolved quests where to start I am sure there has to be something in all these NPC files that can lead us in the right direction im gonna keep looking

Excalibug

NPC - Partos
#"excalibug" -> "Excalibug? No way that I tell you something about it!"
#"grapes" -> Type=3592, Amount=1, "Do you have any grapes with you?", Topic=1

#Topic=1,"yes",Count(Type)>=Amount -> "What do you want for that ...ohhh... tasty ...uhm... sweet ...drool... delicous ...hmm... grapes?", Delete(Type), Topic=2
#Topic=1,"yes" -> "Go away, if you don't have any grapes."
#Topic=1 -> *
#Topic=2,"excalibug" -> "My late mentor once told me he found a wallcarving about this sword in a cave beneath the castle.", Topic=2
#Topic=2,"wallcarving" -> "That part of the dungeon was recently blocked by a cave-in. It was unsecure before, and only a fool would have entered there. I stayed out and alive."

NPC - Alexander
"excalibug" -> "Ah, I would trade a fortune for this fabulous item."

NPC - Amanda
"excalibug" -> "Only a being loyal to Banor will wield this blade."

NPC - Avar Tar
"excalibug" -> "I am sure it's hidden in a vault of the Nightmare Knights beneath the Plains of Havoc. I plan an expedition to go there and rout out the Ruthless Seven, but I have to save the world first."

NPC - Beatrice
"excalibug" -> "A myth like the screwdriver of Kurik or the endless vial of manafluid."

NPC - Charles
"excalibug" -> "You better ask some knight about it."

NPC - Chatterbone
"excalibug" -> "... we hid it... so long ago... so long..."

NPC - Clark
"excalibug" -> "I heard the knights of Edron hide it somewhere instead of using it for the good of the country."

NPC - Edala
"excalibug" -> "It is true that this weapon brings great power. But you should not look for power. It is wisdom you really need."

NPC - Edowir
"excalibug" -> "The ancient dwarfen kings forged it using magic metal , which they took from cyclopses who found it in the heart of a fallen star."

NPC - King
"excalibug" -> "It's the sword of the kings. If you could return this weapon to me I would reward you beyond your dreams."
"reward" -> "Well, if you want a reward, go on a quest to bring me Excalibug!"

NPC - Miraria
"excalibug" -> "Some foolish adventurers seek for it in the haunted ruins of Drefia."

NPC - Ray
"excalibug" -> "There are rumours about some hidden stone tablets mentioning that weapon. Adventurers claim to have seen those tablets in the ancient lizard city."

NPC - Tandros
"excalibug" -> "A weapon of unparalleled magic. Don't listen to people that tell you that this is only a myth. It might be a dream but remember, dreams can come true."

NPC - Topsy
"excalibug" -> "If you want to find out about excalibug you should ask the more sinister characters in Thais not a respectable woman like myself!"

NPC - Uzgod
"excalibug" -> "You want sell me excalibug for 1000 platinum coins and an enchanted armor?", Topic=3
topic=3,"yes" -> "Stop make fun of old dwarf, you not having it!"
topic=3,"no" -> "Me wouldn't sell it, too."
topic=3 -> "You joke with me!"

NPC - Uzon
"excalibug" -> "Some people claim it is hidden somewhere under the endless sands of the devourer desert in Darama."

I know someone who claims that getting into the desert island is possible. Has anyone hear something like this before?
(The island with a dead body and a palm tree)

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Originally Posted by thorekz

I know someone who claims that getting into the desert island is possible. Has anyone hear something like this before?
(The island with a dead body and a palm tree)

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I have heard of it.
Just check this link, it does not have pictures, but still give alot informations (:
http://www.tibiacity.org/forum/showt...-Secrets-Guide

What about the Tomes? I think they have something to do with some secret.
When you look at the 4 times they say this :

07:47 You see a green tome.
It weighs 19.00 oz.
It is a volume of The Mystic Secrets of Tibia.

07:47 You see a grey tome.
It weighs 19.00 oz.
It is a volume of The Mystic Secrets of Tibia.

07:47 You see a blue tome.
It weighs 19.00 oz.
It is a volume of The Mystic Secrets of Tibia.

07:48 You see a red tome.
It weighs 19.00 oz.
It is a volume of The Mystic Secrets of Tibia.

Now you know they are all empty & you cannot write in them.
They say "It is a volume of The Mystic Secrets of Tibia".
I think you may need an NPC to read them too you, or learn some kind of magic so you can make the texts appear, than it will give some kind of hint towards some secrets.

Super!

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Originally Posted by Bushu

I have heard of it.
Just check this link, it does not have pictures, but still give alot informations (:
http://www.tibiacity.org/forum/showt...-Secrets-Guide

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Nothing new about the lake, i know about those hydraulic switches but never got to investigate further!

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Originally Posted by Joshuadaman

I think you may need an NPC to read them too you, or learn some kind of magic so you can make the texts appear, than it will give some kind of hint towards some secrets.

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More like you need to talk to NPC, because I really doubt that a text would appear. I heard that there is a bunch of books that if you'll joint them all there is a quest solution <--isle of kings, has any1 else heard of it? :D

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Originally Posted by jokke628866

And theres also quite a few "hidden" switches deep in the firedevil quest cave, some of them involving opening the gate to the dragons in the spike sword quest..*hint hint* Its only mentioned in the wiki as: Note: You will likely hear the roar of three Dragons. These dragons are caged at the far north end of the room. It is unknown how or why they are there, perhaps this is another adventure to be found?

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But poeple know how to open bridge and remove gate, the problem is how to remove magic walls.

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Originally Posted by Atheist

A good example that I can think of when it comes to item-interaction is taking a Bonelord Helm & Shielding and start blurting number patterns to our beloved "Blinky" why not? 2 eyes of your own, 2 of the Helm and the one in the shield, sounds retarded? maybe, or maybe not, truth is no one can really tell.

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Some people tried it and it didn't work.

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Originally Posted by thorekz

I was wondering if anyone wanna start up a rpq team to come up with new quests and such things discussed on this topic

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I've got 90+pally on secura, so might try RPing there ; d Also, there is alot of people who might volounteer I guess - world/english chat is very active. @Atheist, could you PM me with this ts3 server? @Beo, ur nick on Secura? :D

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Originally Posted by Beo

So whilst looking at the Jakundaf Desert on wikia. I decided to look at the library and came across a book. The contents are as follows;

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On mixing potions. Now, being a really old magician, I decided to write down some of the formulas of potions I invented during my lifetime. First I thought it will be best to give clear advices for everyone to mix them. But after some days of crucial thinking I had a vision - everyone would be able to mix these powerful but dangerous potions within minutes without being aware of the consequences! It needs lot of wisdom and willpower to become a experienced and responsible magician. This doesn't mean to be cowardish - it means that you know your powers and that you exactly know your limits! So, to prevent misuse of this knowledge i will write down these formulas in ****, a very old language only known by the wisest sorcerers.

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It is about mixing potions. Now I'm not sure where the book is for the "formulas" but they seem to be written in "****" which is supposedly a "very old language". I'm going to suggest looking a morse code for this. Hit me up if you find anything!

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It's introduction to potions like 'potion of regained vision' which can be used with one of jakundaf's NPC I guess. @Infernal Bolt, could you joint my posts, please? (:

that's what you meant?

Yeah, thanks dude <3 (no homo)

Im gonna go do some research on the lake since i believe its possible to get there. I know the guy who claims getting there from an external forum, ill pm him for hints..

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Originally Posted by thorekz

Im gonna go do some research on the lake since i believe its possible to get there. I know the guy who claims getting there from an external forum, ill pm him for hints..

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Did the guy mention what was inside the body?

pm me for my name @Bushu

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Originally Posted by Bushu

Did the guy mention what was inside the body?

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Not sure but i think it was random items and a book/letter

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Originally Posted by Beo

pm me for my name @Bushu

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Send me a pm cuz ur inbox is full ;P

Bumps

I really need to get involved with this. Has a team been made? if so where?

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Originally Posted by Bushu

I have heard of it.
Just check this link, it does not have pictures, but still give alot informations (:
http://www.tibiacity.org/forum/showt...-Secrets-Guide

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There really are some old but interesting things on tibiacity... had a few hours of reading there :)

Well, I wanna help finding something too, but at least you guys need to decide where will be the first start.

What happened to this thread? I just found it, this should be a top-of-the-page-thread.
Anyway, to give you guys my two cent on the way to solving a few of theese quest:
People over at Dennis server, tibianic/realots (dont mean to advertise), have come a loong way on many things, including the beho.. bonelord language. And as it's an original tibian server I don't hesitate to not trust them. Many players are still active in both real tibia and "real" tibia. Pay them a visit for knowledge. I know they helped me alot on 1-2 unknown quests, good luck with your questing.

Wow, why I didnt see this thread before?

So nice stuff man, keep it coming, so interesting!

This was such a good thread why did it die ;(

agreed, I usually just skim threads and don't read it all ,but I did this in tibia the first time I payed also, I was so amused trying to find things out and such. This thread is def a good read but I think for the most part unless CIP releases info no one will find out most of the hidden things in the game, just not really worth it tbh as they usually make really rare things in quests public after they are found. I remember one time black shields were rare, some other things also, but I can't remember them off the top of my head. :P

What happened to this thread? What a great read. Brings back memories and makes me want to RPG.


If Tibianic/Realots have an exact copy of the original Tibia files, what happens if they teleport to a treasure room and look into the chests? I don't know why this shouldn't possible