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Yeah didn't see it till last second. :\Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrus
I'm in Hellsgate now, trying to look about.
A Wrinkled Bonelord: In our language the name of our race is not fixed but a complex formula, and as such it always changes for the subjective viewer.
This is what makes me thing the language doesnt matter and its something to do with a key.
Assuming this is literal we need to try right to left reading order. Subjectively, the beholder speaking will blink left eyes and they viewer will see their right eye blinking. Also, with more than 2 plains of eyes (more than left and right), different angles of attack can skew the view on the eyes, possibly reversing the number order?Quote:
Originally Posted by sara
Definetely an interesting topic, I'm not really experienced with this kind of thing but isn't it possible that this has nothing to do with numbers? Maybe they are just there to distract you and guide you in the wrong direction?
Is there perhaps something else to go on besides these numbers which if they are unbreakable maybe we shouldn't focus on them but focus on what's being left out or what's being hidden?
Just a few thoughts...
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Also the npc Knightmare which was seen during Tibia's 15th anniversary uttered this: "3478 67 90871 97664 3466 0 345". When you asked him about Excalibug he would say "I'd tell you if you'd ask me in be ... uhm bonelord language."
Would be helpful if we knew the language.
Theres a rumour from a guy on tibiacity that was close friends with Knightmare and has played since 2001, it was about a set of skull matrix in hellsgate, that unlocks a key (or so he said)
Wondering.. does this say anything to any of you? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/469
Also..
Tibia is a bone.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibia
They are now named "bonelords".. If 1 = tibia, then maybe 1 = bone?
Not sure what to make of this.
I don't think you're on the right trail. That year has no relation to anything in Tibia, also I don't think it has to do with bones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhinocort
Dialogue with the elder beholder brought a mention of 'mathemagics' which reminded me of some other dialogue so I searched it.
http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/index.ph...ulltext=Search
Again we came to the Paradox quest. Is it possible that this whole beholder/bonelord language is just background for this quest? The reference to mathemagics in The Scatterbrained Sorcerer quest is rather new, and the book that it mentions might be worth looking in to. It also might be worth more interest in the Paradox quest line.
The elder beholder's name is also worth investigating. He claims to be '486486' and NOT 'Blinky'. What does 486486 translate to? Looking through his transcripts he also has an interesting response to 'minotaurs', regarding their mages being close to the truth.
Scanned all the npc files for 469 and beholder, nothing that sticks out really.
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Search "beholder" (24 hits in 6 files)
C:\Users\A\Desktop\cip npcs\beholder.npc (3 hits)
Line 2: # beholder.npc: Datenbank für den Bibliotheksbeholder (Elfenstadt)
Line 4: Name = "A Wrinkled Beholder"
C:\Users\A\Desktop\cip npcs\bozo.npc (3 hits)
Line 53: "beholder" -> "Why are beholders so ugly? ... Because their mom and dad were beholders, too!"
C:\Users\A\Desktop\cip npcs\brengus.npc (4 hits)
Line 147: "sell","beholder","helmet" -> Type=3408, Amount=1, Price=2200, "Do you want to sell a beholder helmet for %P gold?", Topic=2
Line 193: "sell",%1,1<%1,"beholder","helmet" -> Type=3408, Amount=%1, Price=2200*%1, "Do you want to sell %A beholder helmets for %P gold?", Topic=2
C:\Users\A\Desktop\cip npcs\hl.npc (2 hits)
Line 305: "sell","beholder","shield" -> Type=3418, Amount=1, Price=79 , "I buy this for %P gold. Is that ok?", Topic=6
Line 332: "sell",%1,1<%1,"beholder","shield" -> Type=3418, Amount=%1, Price=79*%1 , "I buy this for %P gold. Is that ok?", Topic=6
C:\Users\A\Desktop\cip npcs\nahbob.npc (10 hits)
Line 99: "shield" -> "I'm just selling beholder shields. But I'm buying guardian shields, dragon shields, beholder shields, crown shields and phoenix shields."
Line 108: "beholder","shield" -> Type=3418, Amount=1, Price=7000, "Do you want to buy a beholder shield for %P gold?", Topic=10
Line 114: %1,1<%1,"beholder","shield" -> Type=3418, Amount=%1, Price=7000*%1, "Do you want to buy %A beholder shields for %P gold?", Topic=10
Line 128: "sell","beholder","shield" -> Type=3418, Amount=1, Price=1200, "Do you want to sell a beholder shield for %P gold?", Topic=11
Line 152: "sell",%1,1<%1,"beholder","shield" -> Type=3418, Amount=%1, Price=1200*%1, "Do you want to sell %A beholder shields for %P gold?", Topic=11
C:\Users\A\Desktop\cip npcs\wyda.npc (2 hits)
Line 75: "beholder" -> "Beholders? Strange creatures that have mysterious magical abilities."
Search "469" (4 hits in 2 files)
C:\Users\A\Desktop\cip npcs\beholder.npc (2 hits)
Line 36: "books" -> "Our books are written in 469, of course you can't understand them."
Line 37: "469" -> "The language of my kind. Superior to any other language and only to be spoken by entities with enough eyes to blink it."
C:\Users\A\Desktop\cip npcs\chephan.npc (2 hits)
Line 57: "knife" -> Type=3469, Amount=1, Price=10, "Do you want to buy a knife for %P gold?", Topic=1
Line 74: %1,1<%1,"knife" -> Type=3469, Amount=%1, Price=10*%1, "Do you want to buy %A knives for %P gold?", Topic=1
I already super-scanned those fucks. Every single quest state in every single NPC I was able to identify. Paradox quest, postman quest, djinn quest, explorer society.. But nothing unusual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Infernal Bolt
"My friend, Arros the Brave for 6 years was obsessed by the language 469. And few days ago he wrote to me, that language 469 is a .. (censored).
His explanation:
All books in 469 are written in a form of numbers:
65412115454213541345324652123435432476876541275123 487521377...
To see a bigger picture - easier for the human eye to catch - all numbers were turned to colors:
0=black, 1=brown, 2=red, 3=orange, 4=yellow, 5=green, 6=blue, 7=violet, 8=dark grey, 9=light grey
Then each book was written in this color-code.
Next step: each book was moved horizontally to match vertically the sequence of colors in the previous book (if you know what I mean).
And we got a colorfull picture of the text in all books.
(here should be a link to my screenie, but I am not yet allowed to post links)
What the picture shows clearly is that majority of the books is a copy/paste of some part of the same loooong sequence of numbers/text.
Example: Lets say the long story is:
.. the mighty Blacksmith of Darkness gave him a Sword so he could go to Thais to kill King Tibianus but he was caught and slaughtered and on his grave they wrote that once there was a Knight of Zathroth who wanted to rebel against King Tibianus and the mighty Blacksmith of Darkness gave him a Sword so ..
This way we can have:
Book 1 - the mighty Blacksmith of Darkness gave him a Sword so he could go to Thais
Book 2 - he could go to Thais to kill King Tibianus but he was caught and slaughtered
Book 3 - he was caught and slaughtered and on his grave they wrote that once there was a Knight of Zathroth
Book 4 - once there was a Knight of Zathroth who wanted to rebel against King Tibianus
.. and so on
.. and Arros is depressed .. "
Quoted from Maribeth in Tibiacity forums.