Mass-Deleted today.

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Originally Posted by jikoe

its xenobot. Use windbot and you won't get deleted in the beginning

i had the same, it is not ip related 100% sure

I lvled up 20 chars from lvl 1 to 8-30. They all got deleted on the same day though. Then i started to lvl up 20 chars with windbot, and they are now all level 80 botting them all at the same time always so 20 clients, and i didnt get deleted

as i mentioned in a previous post xenobot is really good to use if you are warring, pking etc. But sadly enough the cavebot side of xenobot seems to be detectable.

Also if you didn't do it yet: Try to use randomized e-mails, account numbers and password. You might get deleted on all of your accounts at once if you use like the same e-mail adres, or the same password

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How can you say that Windbot is safer when I was reading their forum yesterday and ALOT of people complained that they got deleted on EVERY single account they owned during the last few days?
Alot of guys were pissed over at the windbot forums because they were deleted on 5-30 accounts each.

Before I got this mass-delete on all my accounts I was botting just fine with xenobot, didnt get a single delete in many months.

Yesterday I was even talking to Lucas Terra over a private chat (owner?/administrator) of Windbot, and he said that nobody knows how cipsoft is detecting people and that no bot is safe, not even windbot.

So please dont come here with your bullshit when you clearly know nothing about what is actually going on, doing so will only confuse people.

A theory why you got deleted on alot of your newly made accounts could be that you once were caught with a character running in a special pattern in a cave forexample, could be why many many got deleted for using infernalbolts rookgaard-main script. Cipsoft simply save this pattern that the deleted character has been using and simply match it with other characters doing exactly the same thing.

And when you switched over to windbot you started using a different script that was following/running in another pattern which cipsoft has not saved and wont detect.

Im not saying it is so, but it seems logical to me.

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Originally Posted by jikoe

its xenobot. Use windbot and you won't get deleted in the beginning

i had the same, it is not ip related 100% sure

I lvled up 20 chars from lvl 1 to 8-30. They all got deleted on the same day though. Then i started to lvl up 20 chars with windbot, and they are now all level 80 botting them all at the same time always so 20 clients, and i didnt get deleted

as i mentioned in a previous post xenobot is really good to use if you are warring, pking etc. But sadly enough the cavebot side of xenobot seems to be detectable.

Also if you didn't do it yet: Try to use randomized e-mails, account numbers and password. You might get deleted on all of your accounts at once if you use like the same e-mail adres, or the same password

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That Windbot is safer than Xeno is just bullshit. The amount of people getting banned with Wind is ridiculous.

@jikoe
Used windbot for a week to test it on a new character and I got banned in 4 days
Used xenobot for years and only been banned on one which was my fault

This is silly...

We pretty much know by now that the new generation of bots are ban-proof especially Xenobot from what I've gathered from his streams he put alot of effort in to it making it look as human as possible and that it's reports that get you banned

So since Xenobot has a relatively small userbase its only logical that we get the least bans... simple
Also we're a nice tight community and are generally more mature and smart about our botting habits which further decreases our ban rate

I used tugbot back in the day and for 20 hours straight it got stuck in a non-random loop then i moved onto neobot and oh my god atleast 2-3x a month the bot would start an infinite loop of banker/depositer/supplies and since i was busy back then it was usualy 12+hrs each time and even now with xenobot i've setup some scripts wrong and they have looped for hours and hours and im not banned...
I have even went as far as making my own trainer (before offline trainers) with autoit and never got banned...

So shut up about which bot is safer - they are all safe and darkstar puts a shit ton of effort into making Xenobot one of, if not the safest but then it's all down to the scripts you use and make and reports.

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Originally Posted by reecey

This is silly...

We pretty much know by now that the new generation of bots are ban-proof especially Xenobot from what I've gathered from his streams he put alot of effort in to it making it look as human as possible and that it's reports that get you banned

So since Xenobot has a relatively small userbase its only logical that we get the least bans... simple
Also we're a nice tight community and are generally more mature and smart about our botting habits which further decreases our ban rate

I used tugbot back in the day and for 20 hours straight it got stuck in a non-random loop then i moved onto neobot and oh my god atleast 2-3x a month the bot would start an infinite loop of banker/depositer/supplies and since i was busy back then it was usualy 12+hrs each time and even now with xenobot i've setup some scripts wrong and they have looped for hours and hours and im not banned...
I have even went as far as making my own trainer (before offline trainers) with autoit and never got banned...

So shut up about which bot is safer - they are all safe and darkstar puts a shit ton of effort into making Xenobot one of, if not the safest but then it's all down to the scripts you use and make and reports.

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So how do you explain me getting banned on 5 accounts, 16hours after creation. All premium and botting in different spawns, different cities, no connection whatsoever. This was during night aswell, I was alone in the spawns and im sure nobody reported me.

+ You cant be very smart if you say that all bots are safe when I made this thread cuz I was banned on 13 accounts.

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Originally Posted by Nippe

So how do you explain me getting banned on 5 accounts, 16hours after creation. All premium and botting in different spawns, different cities, no connection whatsoever. This was during night aswell, I was alone in the spawns and im sure nobody reported me.

+ You cant be very smart if you say that all bots are safe when I made this thread cuz I was banned on 13 accounts.

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So i can reply how do you explain me NOT getting banned? - Pretty shit argument isnt it?

The bots are safe - Xenobot very safe. The scripts are not Xenobot so i deem them not safe unless DarkstaR personally approved them.

I just think you are lying or over exaggerating the circumstances so just stop since it's almost a fact that reports = bans unless it's related to gambling or other special cases or im SURE more than 1-3 users a month have mass acc bans since alot of us bot 5+ accs 24/7

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Originally Posted by reecey

So i can reply how do you explain me NOT getting banned? - Pretty shit argument isnt it?

The bots are safe - Xenobot very safe. The scripts are not Xenobot so i deem them not safe unless DarkstaR personally approved them.

I just think you are lying or over exaggerating the circumstances so just stop since it's almost a fact that reports = bans unless it's related to gambling or other special cases or im SURE more than 1-3 users a month have mass acc bans since alot of us bot 5+ accs 24/7

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The scripts are as safe as they can become, I only use weak nodes, randomized timers at npc, only randomized waits. So dont come here and act like you know something, come back here and talk when you got banned yourself.

There are alot of people who never got deleted, and there are alot of people who has been deleted. Its all about who cipsoft chose to target, if they wanted to they could wipe most of the botters in one day, but they wont because if they did they would have to fire alot of people from their company.

If cipsoft paid me to take care of botters, I could ban thousands every day, completely wipe servers from botters. THEY WILL NEVER DO THAT.

No botters = no money

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Originally Posted by Nippe

So how do you explain me getting banned on 5 accounts, 16hours after creation. All premium and botting in different spawns, different cities, no connection whatsoever. This was during night aswell, I was alone in the spawns and im sure nobody reported me.

+ You cant be very smart if you say that all bots are safe when I made this thread cuz I was banned on 13 accounts.

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this thread has blown up since my last post so forgive me for skimming it, but you did not answer what bot you were using "months ago" since you only joined xeno last month. furthermore you havent specified what kind of log in details you were using ect. I too have been deleted on several accounts at the same time. A deleted 'batch' usually were all created on the same day within minutes of eachother and having very similar names. When I think of how they 'hand check' accounts I imagine the info is before them on the screen in some form of chart or spreadsheet where they will easily be able to see all the data fields of the accounts in question (ie, acc name, pass, creation date, email, registration, #/REPORTS, ect.) This of course is speculation but if you can imagine a scenario like this it would be blatantly obvious that the string of 8 accounts that all sit next to eachother on this database list all have very similar data fields.

If it was simply by IP address surely they would have deleted ALL my accounts when they deleted the 6 + 5 accounts of mine (2 'batches' 2 different 'acc name runs') instead the other 20+ accounts that are turned on almost daily were untouched. This is why I do not believe IP is the single determining factor.

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Originally Posted by sausting

this thread has blown up since my last post so forgive me for skimming it, but you did not answer what bot you were using "months ago" since you only joined xeno last month. furthermore you havent specified what kind of log in details you were using ect. I too have been deleted on several accounts at the same time. A deleted 'batch' usually were all created on the same day within minutes of eachother and having very similar names. When I think of how they 'hand check' accounts I imagine the info is before them on the screen in some form of chart or spreadsheet where they will easily be able to see all the data fields of the accounts in question (ie, acc name, pass, creation date, email, registration, #/REPORTS, ect.) This of course is speculation but if you can imagine a scenario like this it would be blatantly obvious that the string of 8 accounts that all sit next to eachother on this database list all have very similar data fields.

If it was simply by IP address surely they would have deleted ALL my accounts when they deleted the 6 + 5 accounts of mine (2 'batches' 2 different 'acc name runs') instead the other 20+ accounts that are turned on almost daily were untouched. This is why I do not believe IP is the single determining factor.

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I have been using xenobot for a long time, but with a different login. How often do you change ip adress?

I never changed mine before I started using a VPN yesterday, it has been the same since a year back. Maybe they gathered enough data coming from one single IP to just ban alot of accounts at once? If you change ip from time to time it would make their work alot harder.

Btw, the new batch of accounts I created rougly 28 hours ago has not been touched, seems to be safe using a VPN now.

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Originally Posted by Nippe

I have been using xenobot for a long time, but with a different login. How often do you change ip adress?

I never changed mine before I started using a VPN yesterday, it has been the same since a year back. Maybe they gathered enough data coming from one single IP to just ban alot of accounts at once? If you change ip from time to time it would make their work alot harder.

Btw, the new batch of accounts I created rougly 28 hours ago has not been touched, seems to be safe using a VPN now.

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You are funny :P Can i borrow your tinfoil hat?