Is it safe again?

Recently got deleted on my main RIP but want to know if its safe for premmy account so i can start again? im having a lot of trouble getting free accounts past lvl 40 15 accounts in the last 3-4 days have been deleted.... they get deleted in a mass ban like 3 at once but ill still have 2-3 more chars in the background still going ?some have only used 3-5 hours stam :/ but mainly wanna know what its like for premmy accounts cause i wanna get start on a mage again.

Edit:btw i know for sure 1-2 of the free account ek's were not reported if this makes a difference

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Originally Posted by dazzaj

Recently got deleted on my main RIP but want to know if its safe for premmy account so i can start again? im having a lot of trouble getting free accounts past lvl 40 15 accounts in the last 3-4 days have been deleted.... they get deleted in a mass ban like 3 at once but ill still have 2-3 more chars in the background still going ?some have only used 3-5 hours stam :/ but mainly wanna know what its like for premmy accounts cause i wanna get start on a mage again.

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Been playing for 1 year with xeno, have like 10 accounts mid to high level accounts, haven't been deleted on any of them yet and i bot between 8H to 20h straight.
But i've been deleted on one of my training characters (paladin 99 distance..) so far, he was premium though..
My guess is just bad luck.

Also i think players get faster deleted by reports then by botting in general.
I bot on varias spawns that are empty.

hope this info helps :)

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Originally Posted by lange123

Been playing for 1 year with xeno, have like 10 accounts mid to high level accounts, haven't been deleted on any of them yet and i bot between 8H to 20h straight.
But i've been deleted on one of my training characters (paladin 99 distance..) so far, he was premium though..
My guess is just bad luck.

Also i think players get faster deleted by reports then by botting in general.
I bot on varias spawns that are empty.

hope this info helps :)

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Lately alot ppl are getting deleted it began at double exp week not just xb but also wb users and no I dont think it's safe yet yesterday this guy lost 8x lvl 200+ on my server

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Originally Posted by lange123

Been playing for 1 year with xeno, have like 10 accounts mid to high level accounts, haven't been deleted on any of them yet and i bot between 8H to 20h straight.
But i've been deleted on one of my training characters (paladin 99 distance..) so far, he was premium though..
My guess is just bad luck.

Also i think players get faster deleted by reports then by botting in general.
I bot on varias spawns that are empty.

hope this info helps :)

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On my main i also botted spawns no one ever went to i made my own waypoints for some even and never went past 20 stam ever :/ you are just very lucky and i hope you stay lucky :)

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Originally Posted by oualid

Lately alot ppl are getting deleted it began at double exp week not just xb but also wb users and no I dont think it's safe yet yesterday this guy lost 8x lvl 200+ on my server

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man thats sad :( sorry to hear give my condolences well i will try wait a bit till it cools down would love to hear more what other people think or are experiencing with low lvl premmy accounts between 1-150 if they are botting? or even high :)

check the other threads

http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?35152-deleted

or

http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread...ted-right-now-!

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Originally Posted by oualid

check the other threads

http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?35152-deleted

or

http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread...ted-right-now-!

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Iv read through these but not finding the exact answer im looking for as "what im doing wrong to get deleted so quickly" but i dont wanna risk my next account as it has a few vouchers on it :P

no idea maybe they are checking ip's of ppl that already got deleted once

i changed my ip :/ still got deleted within 12 hours of stamina

NOT SAFE ANOTHER 160 ED DELETED IN DOLERA LAST NIGHT JUST USEING THE HEALER

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Originally Posted by Redrum

NOT SAFE ANOTHER 160 ED DELETED IN DOLERA LAST NIGHT JUST USEING THE HEALER

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Wow sorry to hear :(what is going on has a ban wave this serious happened before?

Its not a wave. They improved something and this is the new norm. People will keep getting banned until we figure out how their detection system works. For now all you can do is avoiding reports. Only bot when you're alone, and if someone comes for a visit, chat a little and leave the cave asap.

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Originally Posted by shadowart

Its not a wave. They improved something and this is the new norm. People will keep getting banned until we figure out how their detection system works. For now all you can do is avoiding reports. Only bot when you're alone, and if someone comes for a visit, chat a little and leave the cave asap.

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Ok will do :/ whats the chances of figuring out what they have changed to there formula ?

50%
You figure it out or no.

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Originally Posted by Redrum

NOT SAFE ANOTHER 160 ED DELETED IN DOLERA LAST NIGHT JUST USEING THE HEALER

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only ever using the healer?? or botted in the past..?

just got banned my 170ek they goint hard :O

I too was getting banned on facc pretty quickly
I remade all my scripts (it's a facc non pvp world so pretty much every spawn has people there) but the waypoints I made are 100% randomized. It'll never follow the same path twice. I'm thinking they improved the heat path theory and so far I've been botting down to 16h stamina and not getting deleted *knock on wood*
I will let you know if this changes though lol
(I also made completely random NPC conversations, 5 randomized statements per NPC)

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Originally Posted by Proteus

I too was getting banned on facc pretty quickly
I remade all my scripts (it's a facc non pvp world so pretty much every spawn has people there) but the waypoints I made are 100% randomized. It'll never follow the same path twice. I'm thinking they improved the heat path theory and so far I've been botting down to 16h stamina and not getting deleted *knock on wood*
I will let you know if this changes though lol
(I also made completely random NPC conversations, 5 randomized statements per NPC)

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I also made a script like that. Some people have reported success with it but I myself got banned. How randomized are your waypoints? I split most parts of the script into segments and made 2-3 variants for each segment. I also split the cave into three subparts and after cleaning one part it choose randomly among the other two. Npc conversations had some randomization (whether to say bye or not; whether to say "hi", "HI" or "Hi"; what kind of potion to buy first etc).

Now I'm working on a new one where I split the cave into sort of a graph and I'm performing a random walk with no backtracking instead.

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Originally Posted by shadowart

I also made a script like that. Some people have reported success with it but I myself got banned. How randomized are your waypoints? I split most parts of the script into segments and made 2-3 variants for each segment. I also split the cave into three subparts and after cleaning one part it choose randomly among the other two. Npc conversations had some randomization (whether to say bye or not; whether to say "hi", "HI" or "Hi"; what kind of potion to buy first etc).

Now I'm working on a new one where I split the cave into sort of a graph and I'm performing a random walk with no backtracking instead.

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If the Bank and Depot are close you can randomize to go to the bank or to depot first (Like Venore, Thais, Lb etc)

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Originally Posted by shadowart

I also made a script like that. Some people have reported success with it but I myself got banned. How randomized are your waypoints? I split most parts of the script into segments and made 2-3 variants for each segment. I also split the cave into three subparts and after cleaning one part it choose randomly among the other two. Npc conversations had some randomization (whether to say bye or not; whether to say "hi", "HI" or "Hi"; what kind of potion to buy first etc).
Now I'm working on a new one where I split the cave into sort of a graph and I'm performing a random walk with no backtracking instead.

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By the sound of it it's like the graph concept
It doesn't backtrack at all, and updates it's location constantly to determine the next best route
The NPC conversations sound the same as what I did though

Iv have got one of my facc makers to 20 stamina botting kaz dwarfs i botted him for 10-12 hour periods i have been reported also as a pker came to clear me out for his bot. also i have registered the account and got its code maybe that makes a difference? ill keep updating this thread with new things ill try but as i don't know how to make randomized waypoints ill just continue with the scripts i have got so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czLQoG01PFs

I have around 35 hours on my new facc maker now. Previously they got banned after 5-10 hours so this is a huge improvement. Sadly I had to drastically reduce the amount of randomization in the script because the waypoints were too far away from each other, but I haven't seen even a single player in the spawn so that really helps.

I also have a character at mad sheeps, today is my third day there and I figure I have about 50 hours so far. I'm going to keep at it for a few more days but I think this is already pretty good evidence that long online times doesn't automatically trigger their bot detection systems. Though they might of course consider it evidence if something else trigger an investigation.

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Originally Posted by shadowart

I have around 35 hours on my new facc maker now. Previously they got banned after 5-10 hours so this is a huge improvement. Sadly I had to drastically reduce the amount of randomization in the script because the waypoints were too far away from each other, but I haven't seen even a single player in the spawn so that really helps.

I also have a character at mad sheeps, today is my third day there and I figure I have about 50 hours so far. I'm going to keep at it for a few more days but I think this is already pretty good evidence that long online times doesn't automatically trigger their bot detection systems. Though they might of course consider it evidence if something else trigger an investigation.

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Mad sheep chars seem to last way longer than chars that are just hunting. Chars hunting lasts 20-30 hours for me, mad sheep chars lasts a week or so.

@dazzaj

its never safe to bot.
and in my opinoin, @Joshwa534 is right. hes been 100% corect so far, so no point in not beliving him.
(All botted accounts will be deleted sooner or later)

I had 12 accounts going on a non-pvp for a project. 10 MM and 2 paccs. First my MMs got deleted after maybe a week (all lvl 50 ish), then the paccs the next day. While all this happened, my moneymaker on a pvp world had been running every time it would have stamina (all the way to 16h) and it wasn't affected at all (lvl 190+ facc knight).

What gives.. maybe my main MM is just like neo dodging all the bullets

Thats very interesting thanks for sharing @jobaka very interesting


Edit: @jobaka

@jobaka i got a question :) were you botting your 190+free account at the same time as the other money makers got deleted?

One report seems to be enough to get deleted?