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    Quote Originally Posted by XtrmJosh View Post
    Here are my answers, being a member of XB forum since day 2 (I think - on my alt account, Josh). I've also scripted for BugWT using iBot for a long time, so I know that incredibly well. On top of that I've known Igor (Maozao, maker of Redbot) for a while, and seen him develop his programming over that time.

    What are the benefits of each bot?
    iBot is the most functional, by far. In spite of the fact that the other bots can do pretty much the same shit, it's a lot easier and more accessible. Unless you have a phd in lua scripting you won't be able to recreate an ibot script like for like on Xeno, or RedBot (though redbot again is slightly easier to script with than Xeno due to more accessible functions).

    RedBot doesn't really stand out much, it's a good all round bot, but it doesn't have any spectacular feature which makes it better in any way, really. I guess the targetting is slightly better, but that was modified by Ekx, so it's no surprise that it's better, really.

    XenoBot is by far the most noob friendly. Anyone can load it up, inject, run a script and load some settings. The downside of course being that in order to modify those scripts, you must have said phd in lua scripting.

    Why do you personally use the one that you do?
    I use XenoBot now, purely because iBot doesn't work on my computer. I don't know why, and nobody else shares the problem I'm faced with, so Jonatas is reluctant to spend time trying to fix it. He's sent me a few betas and tried a little, but as mentioned, it's just too much work for too small a problem. XenoBot would definitely be my recontamination to anyone who can script though, it's a bit more complex and slightly frustrating when you need to have a text editor and the client open, then execute and kill scripts each time you change something, but what you lose there you gain in people not fucking around once they have bought / downloaded a script. I always used to find myself (especially in Neobot) making stupid typing errors in functions, clicking a random place on the screen and tapping the @ key or something stupid by mistake. I don't do that with Xeno cause I'm rarely in the scripts, since they are out of the way. It's nicer in that way, and that's the biggest reason aside from iBot not working that I use it.

    Why are there so many iBot users on the Xeno forums?
    As people said already, iBot is probably the most popular, but they need a community, so they come here. DarkstaR made TUGBot a few years ago, for a community TibiaUG, which disbanded a year or so ago after three of the most contributing users of the forum got accused of scamming by the owner of the site, and the group of friends we (I speak in first person because I was one of those 3 people) were playing with ended up giving up on the TUG community, as Neobot disbanded, XenoBot was made, we had a new place to chat, Xeno forums.

    Which bot has a brighter future?
    I think XenoBot will stand out once it has had a little work done. It could do with a few changes, like a simple "tool" to automount, the ability to pass variables as a string or integer as you like (aka ShopSellItems("Dragon Hammer") as opposed to Self.ShopSellItems(Item.GetID("Dragon Hammer"))) - These functions make it really annoying to script, and as some functions are part of third party libraries, they don't all require Self.~, so it gets even more confusing.

    Overall, if you want a bot that's easy to use and you can't script very well, I'd recommend Xeno. I'd also recommend that you find a script seller, considering the price of scripts here is ridiculously cheap compared to the other two. If you want something you're used to, iBot is the thing, it's very similar to Neobot, and is suited to most people in that respect. It does, however, consume CPU like a whore (as people mentioned before). If you want something a bit different, I guess RedBot is your thing, but I doubt you'll appreciate anything about it, as you'll see its foibles and think why the fuck did I do this...

    @BUg
    @sirmate
    Can we have some verification of this claim?
    Last edited by Whoever; 12-19-2012 at 07:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whoever View Post
    @BUgWT
    @sirmate
    Can we have some verification of this claim?
    The BugWT Xenobot account is currently inactive, since we don't sell XenoBot scripts there is little point in Arv / Sah using it. Sirmate is probably inactive too, not seen him online in a long time.

    If you remember the Neobot forums, you'll know me as Josh. I won a scripting competition and got invited to join the team. I've been with them for around 2 years (maybe more maybe less, not exactly sure).

    You could also ask either @HolmaN or probably even @DarkstaR to confirm it, they both know me reasonably well. DarkstaR not so much, but I'm sure he's seen my activity on the Neobot forums if nothing else.

    Also @Luls can vouch for it, he's been a friend of mine since the TibiaUG community.

    Anyway, who are you to question me?
    You cannot fail, so I'm lowering the standard.

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    @XtrmJosh, who are you to make such claims without solid evidence?

    and since you said you "scripted for bugwt using iBot for a long time", why are you afraid of anyone challenging that statement if it is true?

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    yes josh scripts for us. He used to test a bunch of the scripts too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whoever View Post
    @XtrmJosh, who are you to make such claims without solid evidence?

    and since you said you "scripted for bugwt using iBot for a long time", why are you afraid of anyone challenging that statement if it is true?
    why you think he liee..
    up you got profs

    ps: hello Bug


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    I was always dying-hard to test Xenobot, never used it myself on my PC, just watched it being used on an RL friend's pc, now that I have a lifetime license on another bot I don't rly need it anymore.

    The most true fact I've read on this thread is that Darkstar is the best developer out of the 3 big bots. I really don't know why Xenobot doesnt have the biggest users because I didn't use it myself, so I can't say which is best between Xeno and iBot for example, but knowing Darkstar's work it can't be worse than iBot... even TUGBot was better than iBot to bot EKs, at least.

    Out of the 3 big ones I'm suspect to say (I'll always say RedBot because... you know), but if I had tried Xeno a few months earlier (or even few months from now on, I think I owe that for the time using TUGBot, nothing better than doing a small contribution to its creator) I can answer that properly.

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    What I miss on xeno is the availability of lua functions, iBot has many including reading channels, viplist related functions and many others that xeno lacks. Besides that I prefer xeno because I trust on darkstar's programming skills and xeno is injected it has a faster I/O and is not annoying as iBot, that steals mouse and keyboard, really this is pretty annoying.

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    Alright, so... after close consideration, I purchased Xeno I like a lot of the things that were mentioned about it, and i don't mind those little annoyances because I'm patient. I hope to be scripting here for a long time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nykor View Post
    Alright, so... after close consideration, I purchased Xeno I like a lot of the things that were mentioned about it, and i don't mind those little annoyances because I'm patient. I hope to be scripting here for a long time
    hello then in great xeno comunity


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nykor View Post
    Alright, so... after close consideration, I purchased Xeno I like a lot of the things that were mentioned about it, and i don't mind those little annoyances because I'm patient. I hope to be scripting here for a long time
    Welcome man! i'm new here, but it is really an awesome community!

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