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    Lightbulb Botting and playing manually at the same time

    Hey guys,

    Just got deleted the other day for the first time. The "reason?" I think was all my money transfers and
    parcels in-between two knights on the same account every two days for about 1-2 weeks. (Speculations ofc).

    I still feel the urge to play/bot tibia, so I was thinking of obtaining another PC, a second one.
    The idea behind this is to bot 3-6 faccs (moneymakers) with Xenobot (got lifetime) or Windbot, AND 1-2 paccs, whilst
    playing manually on my main computer.

    I will create a new account on my main PC, never ever use the bot nor MC on that account. The only connection I ever will have with
    the botted accounts is money-dropping or money-transferring. I will buy a house in Venore and money-launder like a mafia boss, if that's what it takes.

    Am I still going to be in the "risk-zone" with my manual account (Same network, same IP, accused of MC?)

    Would like to hear your thoughts and ideas if you got any to share!
    Or if some of you have great success stories botting, reaching 250+ and how you did it, multiple characters on the same account etc!

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    I guess you dont have them on same reg with ur name etc etc , and maybe use vpn on the other computers :P

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    We can never know how to be safe...? xD

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    I think you might still get deleted but if you provide strong arguments they will undelete you, happened to few people already - unless it's a money keeping character then they won't undelete it most likely because it's too obvious but if it's main character which is qutie high level and you play it only manually - not even once bot injected then you should be fine.

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    is injection alone (no settings) even possible to detect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nakuu View Post
    You can never know
    Last edited by sausting; 03-28-2015 at 07:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sausting View Post
    is injection alone (no settings) even possible to detect?
    You can never know

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    Thanks for the info guys! Got a little bit of an update for you, something that occured as recent as this morning.

    Bought prem on a free account 4 days ago, on an account I've been botting some (lvl 60 knight) and created 3 new characters and started offline training them.
    Today that account got deleted. I botted 4 free accounts simultaneously, which none of got deleted. My highest character is 190 and haven't gotten deleted yet. I find this very odd, annoying and disturbing.

    I just received my second computer today. What do you guys reckon I do? Should I register all the accounts and "order" Rec-key and so on?
    I feel like a homeless child with no food nor clothes I'd like to bot 1-3 prem accs 24/7. I want to I want to!!!

    Thanks!
    Last edited by Stolf; 03-31-2015 at 01:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stolf View Post
    Thanks for the info guys! Got a little bit of an update for you, something that occured as recent as this morning.

    Bought prem on a free account 4 days ago, on an account I've been botting some (lvl 60 knight) and created 3 new characters and started offline training them.
    Today that account got deleted. I botted 4 free accounts simultaneously, which none of got deleted. My highest character is 190 and haven't gotten deleted yet. I find this very odd, annoying and disturbing.

    I just received my second computer today. What do you guys reckon I do? Should I register all the accounts and "order" Rec-key and so on?
    I feel like a homeless child with no food nor clothes I'd like to bot 1-3 prem accs 24/7. I want to I want to!!!

    Thanks!
    I believe you should put your bot chars in one PC, and your main non-botted char on other PC. If you use a proxy service that's better in my opinion due to many people with the same IP, otherwise you would have only your chars on your IP. Registering is a good idea (with different addresses and acc names). On your botting chars I would avoid crowded spawns (reports), avoid bugged scripts, and mainly do your own well made scripts, like Wesker's some time ago released (http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread...l=1#post343143).

    By well made scripts I mean scripts that it doesn't look too obvious you are botting, with random paths and waypoints. For example, most scripts that go to Oramond's Depot go down always in the same stair SQM. What's the chance a normal player would do that, if there are 4 possible way of going down depot? So you could do a random waypoint that could choose any of the 4 SQM. I also add a random pause simulating a bathroom go when possible, after 30-40 minutes of hunt, moving the character to a safe random spot and waiting there with everything from the bot OFF, but I don't know whether this is necessary.

    The only thing I've found by now that may explain those random deletions by players who always plays safe (not erasing stamina, getting reported a lot, etc) is the paper Wesker pointed out some time ago: http://iseclab.org/papers/botdetection-article.pdf

    I'm experimenting with it right now, with my main char, 3 months botting already (windbot, I don't have Xeno right now), and I gave a script to a friend, if any of us or someone who do this method gets a ban so the theory may not be perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesseh View Post
    I believe you should put your bot chars in one PC, and your main non-botted char on other PC. If you use a proxy service that's better in my opinion due to many people with the same IP, otherwise you would have only your chars on your IP. Registering is a good idea (with different addresses and acc names). On your botting chars I would avoid crowded spawns (reports), avoid bugged scripts, and mainly do your own well made scripts, like Wesker's some time ago released (http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread...l=1#post343143).

    By well made scripts I mean scripts that it doesn't look too obvious you are botting, with random paths and waypoints. For example, most scripts that go to Oramond's Depot go down always in the same stair SQM. What's the chance a normal player would do that, if there are 4 possible way of going down depot? So you could do a random waypoint that could choose any of the 4 SQM. I also add a random pause simulating a bathroom go when possible, after 30-40 minutes of hunt, moving the character to a safe random spot and waiting there with everything from the bot OFF, but I don't know whether this is necessary.

    The only thing I've found by now that may explain those random deletions by players who always plays safe (not erasing stamina, getting reported a lot, etc) is the paper Wesker pointed out some time ago: http://iseclab.org/papers/botdetection-article.pdf

    I'm experimenting with it right now, with my main char, 3 months botting already (windbot, I don't have Xeno right now), and I gave a script to a friend, if any of us or someone who do this method gets a ban so the theory may not be perfect.
    More data on whether randomized waypoints helps would be really cool. Those scripts take a little longer to make and it would be nice knowing whether its worth it.

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