@Amb Motive

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I don't entirely agree with censorship but I wouldn't go so far as to mock it. My belief (which I will express, as this is a contemplation corner) is that everything has its time and place. I, for instance, wouldn't be able to finish my curry if there was a person vomiting on TV, it would put me off too much. I'm pretty sure I'd struggle if there was nudity going on, too, though I won't stretch into detail for that purpose. I also am a strong believer that children under 10 (or thereabouts) should have the world hidden from them, it can be damaging to someone of such an age to witness anything which they cannot cope with, for example if you expose a child to violence when they are young, it will give them the impression that it is normal... That's where inherited behaviours come from, after all. For that purpose, I strongly encourage censorship. I can see where you're coming from though, this is a very different case, and although I probably wouldn't have deleted his posts had it been my forum, I don't object to whoever did so doing so, since it is Jonatas' livelihood which is at stake, he's got an income and he wants it protecting, that's just business sense. I mean, if you join a forum and immediately get insulted by someone, you're probably not gonna stick around for long... I think that's the good bit about XB though, the community here is good enough that we can, and I use the term loosely scare off those who we don't want here, and warmly welcome those who we do want. I'm not saying it is nor should be a selective community, I'm just saying there are certain personalities which we can do without, and Amb's is certainly somewhere around the top of the list.

You know, I'd probably have booted myself out by now if I were you. I can be incredibly annoying sometimes, but I guess I probably find you as annoying as you find me at times, the main difference being I guess I literally have nothing to lose here, whereas you've some responsibility to be polite & courteous since this is your product, which you're trying to sell... I do think the people here see you as being gracefully ungraceful at times though, and I think you only seem to gain their respect for that. It's a difficult concept to grasp, and even more difficult to become, but I think you've done it.

I must say I do not quite understand how the idea of censorship is compatible with TV-production. It is widely known that most TV-producers map out customer satisfaction through ratings. Ergo: good ratings = good show or bad ratings = bad show. So... why on earth would a small group of people (the producers) have a guess at (before hand) what details will what details and will not be liked by a significantly larger group (the viewers), when this is already apart of the of the selecting process? And no I'm not talking about censorship I'm talking about a little business idea called "trying-to-earn-my-living-through-appealing-to-the-general-public". If the viewers want to watch a uncomfortable mixture of shit, vomit and nudity on TV (which, by the judge of the stuff that's on TV in my country, is the case) wouldn't it be extremely counterproductive to censor parts that offend a minority but appeal to the majority? Even if it would be a case of the TV-producers not liking a show which generates good ratings, I do not think they'd give a flying fuck (seeing as TV-producers generally (at least in the western world) are commercialized). Furthermore if people for some reason would stop want to watch repulsive programs that would become evident in the ratings and program would therefor be removed. This is, as previously stated, the general process of TV-production. It's efficient - both economically for the producers, but the viewers tend to get what they want. If you do want to watch vomit and nudity there are many simple solutions - one would be to stop watching that specific program. I myself agree with you - I wouldn't want to watch someone vomit... ever. However I would much rather have the viewers decide what they want to watch than letting one person/a small group of people decide. Also: if stupid people want to watch stupid shit - then for the love of god let em'!

Censorship is retarded. I feel that if someone has something they want to say, they should not only be able to say it, but have to live with looking like a moron if they knowingly provided bullshit information trying to increase their E-PEEN. And it goes both ways. If someone has a legitimate problem with my software or a legitimate criticism, I let them say it. I don't stop people from saying "iBot" or "Redbot." The only thing that gets deleted is meaningless spam and harmful posts, such as viruses or scams. And that's how it will always stay.

In-fucking-deed.