Bots... XenoBot? iBot?

[SamDaMan]

I'm not gonna say iBot has a keylogger hidden within the code...
... but I'm not gonna say it doesn't either.

[debben]

I'm not gonna say iBot has a keylogger hidden within the code...
... but I'm not gonna say it doesn't either.

Please share with us.

OnT:

I haven't tried scripting with Xenobot myself yet, but it definitely doesn't seem that hard.. the hard part would be getting a grip of the functions. However, this is a matter for all programming languages(classes as well of course).

[PunktG]

all depend what you need and most important is first look , opinion

80% ppl think
Inject = ban

this is main reson why some othere bot is more popular

[Nostrax]

Ibot has bigger scripters and better scripts for highlevels SO FAR

alltho I like Xenobot alot and the community is just great

[Chaotic Deathcaster]

i use xeno, not because of any certain features or anything but i trust darkstar he knows what hes doing and id much rather use a bot where i can trust the person who makes it :P i have no clue who ibots owner is ( :

[sirmate]

They are both easy to script. If people says it hard its because they dont know how to script and only manage to script by borrowing/editing other peoples code. In xeno its a tad harder to borrow code so they think its harder to script. My only problem with xeno is separate lua files which isnt a problem only an annoyance. Im hoping we get bult in scripts. one-liners are fine but they still dont work for scripts like attack area and soft boots changer. Once special areas are fixed I see xenobot as working well on knights and paladins. Im still not 100% happy using a mage with it. Maybe once I make a nice multi spell attack script ill change my mind.


Then your doing something wrong.

offtopic
User made libraries are great but people need to learn how to use them correctly.

Just use "TIMER_TICK" event and you can compress your Lua stuff into one file.

[sirmate]

Also "problem" with Xeno is that people don't understand the logic of classes. The difference about scripting in XenoBOT vs iBOT and NeoBOT it's how functions (need to be used/are declared).
Let's get simplest example: Moving items.

Xeno:
You need to loop over all containers (construct object for each container), find your item in container (looping over all slots) and then call container function that is responsible for moving items into other container or ground.

iBOT and NeoBOT:
You call one function "moveitems" with proper agruments and it's done.

I know that you want to make Xeno somehow "flexible" or something like this but people want simple solutions or atleast huge base of examples as not everyone like/want to make actions by themselves.

[soul4soul]

Just use "TIMER_TICK" event and you can compress your Lua stuff into one file.

Im am aware of this but its not what im looking for it still leaves with you with lua files separated from the xbst.

[smeg]

I've been reading through a bunch of threads here, and it seems like iBot is getting used a lot here? I figured these forums were full of Xeno users, but I've heard a lot of good things about iBot being said here too. I have quite a few question, and I guess what I'm trying to ask is:

What are the benefits of each bot? Xeno is a bit cheaper then iBot, not only by the price of a subscription, but also because of the price most people ask for their paid scrips. iBot has better scripts that are free of charge than Xeno I'd say, don't know what's the reason for that though. What I dislike about iBot is that it kinda takes over your computer like Neo did aswell, so you are not able to chat with people or something while botting.
Why do you personally use the one that you do? not using any at the moment, but the last one I've used was iBot indeed, got redskulled on my mage botting with xeno so therefor I switched. So basically the lack of a script that would turn down the bot/client when I "accidently" fragged someone made me change. Also I have always had problems with the bp reseter etc. when I was using Xeno (was a while ago though, might have changed)
Why are there so many iBot users on the Xeno forums? No matter what bot I am currently using I prefer to stick to the Xeno forums, since I prefer the people around here (generally speaking). To be honest I don't like to see 384 br threads on the iBot forums (no offence)
Which bot has a brighter future?

I guess I'm just kind of alarmed to see other bots being used here, it seems kind of like Neo and Red, I always used Neo but heard great things about Red... On top of all of this, in the new year I'm planning on getting back into tibia myself, but all my accounts have been hacked. I'll be starting new, I have a strong scripting background... What to buy...?

added some 'bold' answers, don't know if it makes any sense

[XtrmJosh]

Here are my answers, being a member of XB forum since day 2 (I think - on my alt account, Josh). I've also scripted for BugWT using iBot for a long time, so I know that incredibly well. On top of that I've known Igor (Maozao, maker of Redbot) for a while, and seen him develop his programming over that time.

What are the benefits of each bot?
iBot is the most functional, by far. In spite of the fact that the other bots can do pretty much the same shit, it's a lot easier and more accessible. Unless you have a phd in lua scripting you won't be able to recreate an ibot script like for like on Xeno, or RedBot (though redbot again is slightly easier to script with than Xeno due to more accessible functions).

RedBot doesn't really stand out much, it's a good all round bot, but it doesn't have any spectacular feature which makes it better in any way, really. I guess the targetting is slightly better, but that was modified by Ekx, so it's no surprise that it's better, really.

XenoBot is by far the most noob friendly. Anyone can load it up, inject, run a script and load some settings. The downside of course being that in order to modify those scripts, you must have said phd in lua scripting.

Why do you personally use the one that you do?
I use XenoBot now, purely because iBot doesn't work on my computer. I don't know why, and nobody else shares the problem I'm faced with, so Jonatas is reluctant to spend time trying to fix it. He's sent me a few betas and tried a little, but as mentioned, it's just too much work for too small a problem. XenoBot would definitely be my recontamination to anyone who can script though, it's a bit more complex and slightly frustrating when you need to have a text editor and the client open, then execute and kill scripts each time you change something, but what you lose there you gain in people not fucking around once they have bought / downloaded a script. I always used to find myself (especially in Neobot) making stupid typing errors in functions, clicking a random place on the screen and tapping the @ key or something stupid by mistake. I don't do that with Xeno cause I'm rarely in the scripts, since they are out of the way. It's nicer in that way, and that's the biggest reason aside from iBot not working that I use it.

Why are there so many iBot users on the Xeno forums?
As people said already, iBot is probably the most popular, but they need a community, so they come here. DarkstaR made TUGBot a few years ago, for a community TibiaUG, which disbanded a year or so ago after three of the most contributing users of the forum got accused of scamming by the owner of the site, and the group of friends we (I speak in first person because I was one of those 3 people) were playing with ended up giving up on the TUG community, as Neobot disbanded, XenoBot was made, we had a new place to chat, Xeno forums.

Which bot has a brighter future?
I think XenoBot will stand out once it has had a little work done. It could do with a few changes, like a simple "tool" to automount, the ability to pass variables as a string or integer as you like (aka ShopSellItems("Dragon Hammer") as opposed to Self.ShopSellItems(Item.GetID("Dragon Hammer"))) - These functions make it really annoying to script, and as some functions are part of third party libraries, they don't all require Self.~, so it gets even more confusing.

Overall, if you want a bot that's easy to use and you can't script very well, I'd recommend Xeno. I'd also recommend that you find a script seller, considering the price of scripts here is ridiculously cheap compared to the other two. If you want something you're used to, iBot is the thing, it's very similar to Neobot, and is suited to most people in that respect. It does, however, consume CPU like a whore (as people mentioned before). If you want something a bit different, I guess RedBot is your thing, but I doubt you'll appreciate anything about it, as you'll see its foibles and think why the fuck did I do this...