Perhaps @DarkstaR could make a video blog on this.
Many many people for years now have been saying that sio scripts are "very detectable"/
Are they actually "more detectable" than other functions, or is it just a myth?
I think this is something many people would like to hear coming from Nick himself.
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Mannow, I don't think its a myth ^^
It's easier to detect because a normal human can't heal 20+ different people
This actually makes no sense what anyone is saying about it being detectable lol
Sio is just a spell like any other and it is sent by the bot the same as any other... It's like saying exura and exori flam are more detectable.
As long as the time between casts are randomized or matches the speed of holding a hotkey down then there's no reason to worry and that only if the detection tool even monitors the time between casts.
Please anyone with more knowledge correct me as i'm no pro with botting but this just seems common sense to me and alot of you guys aren't stopping to think before 'typing'.
@ the healing 20 people thing... Don't we get 36 hotkeys to play with? So we can easily heal over 20 players not to mention if they have notepad side-by-side and then they can copy/paste an unlimited amount of characters to sio pretty fast. Even without notepad you can right click to copy name and have a hotkey do [exura sio "] then you can just paste the name and you're go!
Last edited by reecey; 04-16-2013 at 02:54 PM.
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I don't believe there is any specific attribute of sio scripts which makes them any more dangerous than any other bot. While it is possible that Tibia's detection system favors sio scripts, while giving less traction to detection normal self healers, it makes no fucking sense why that would be the case.
The only possible issue is that the people getting banned with sio scripts are using terribly made sio scripts which heal impossibly fast. Every built-in function in XenoBot has a randomized time delay that is invisible to most people but makes an astounding difference to detection heuristics. I've said for years that the quality of scripts determines if they will be detected, and that is likely the case here (if there is actually a higher ban rate for those using sio scripts).
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well i dont know much about lua but is there a way to randomize the percent at when u use sio to like at + or - 3% like in the bot healer..
also the sio script i use is the one syntax posted on the forums but i changed the 2 wait times in that script to this
Code:sleep(math.random(1000,1300) , sleep(math.random(1000,1600)
now my other questions are is it better to use wait or sleep and is that enough delay in the script to be human and the script uses health percent
BTW @reecey, I myself thought the exact same as you, I just wrote my post in an Unbiased way asking for Darkstar to share his thoughts, as most people wouldn't care for my opinion but if Darkstar says it, they won't argue, much :P
I believe that most bots are pretty "undetectable" these days, I personally think that every time someone gets banned 95% of the time It's because they have:
- Been botting in a spawn like mutated humans, dara dragons, and other popular places and been reported MANY times.
- Been using self made, or borrowed .LUA scripts that are poorly made (Repeat rates and random values not correctly made)
- Ran out of money and stood there saying "Hi" or some shit repeatedly.
- Eating food exactly every 264 second
***All of these things are called "User Errors" and are problems that are not from Xenobot itself
I've seen many SIO scripts where the player just spams exhaustion because he's trying to heal his entire party in war with an exhaustion rate far too low
That would mean he has set his .LUA wrong.
SO BASICALLY:
My opinion is that SIO script is no more detectable than any other function, it's only seen that way because not many bot's have ever had an Exura Sio function on the bot, rather all made as external scripts which are often made poorly.
I personally think that if there isn't so much other higher priority things needed to be done, and if it won't take so long, @DarkstaR could possibly implement an in-built exura sio function which will auto heal "Player name" at "Player percent".
It will be preset to have the lowest "safe" exhaustion rate for exura sio so that it will only cast sio if it won't exhaust you etc, just like your self healing is set.
This way people can use a "safe" exura sio rather than risk using a .LUA that is made poorly, and besides, most people are unaware of correct timers and rates.
Perhaps the "Frag helper" could be renamed to "Battle helper" and an "Heal friend" tab can be places just under the "Combo bot" tab, and then that opens up a box where you enter your players name, and heal percent value next to it.
It will prioritise to heal whoever is highest on the list, OR whoever is at lowest Health percent?
What do you think @DarkstaR?
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