I see flawed points on both sides of this argument, but I must say, I really think Xtrm needs to see the burn ward after this one:
Originally Posted by xiaospike
I totally forgot I made that post.
I see flawed points on both sides of this argument, but I must say, I really think Xtrm needs to see the burn ward after this one:
I totally forgot I made that post.
Why dont u make ur own bussines with scripts and be uber scripter?
All u can do is flame boards and people's work. What have u done that can be called useful lately?
What's your problem, dude? How can you call me an idiot if you don't even know me? I actually tried to help him... but whatever.. you're just an ignorant kid trying to be that 'good guy' on the forum that helps everyone for free and create tutorials to help people create scripts... and then you call them idiots for creating unsafe, badly written scripts. Just pathetic.
What have I done that's useful? I've made a video tutorial guiding people on how to make AFK scripts. I've made several tutorials for another forum for C# programming with Tibia, though it's not particularly important here, it shows what I am actually here to do. My intention is not solely to piss people off, my intention is to open the floor for people to improve and learn...
You cannot fail, so I'm lowering the standard.
Firstly, it was you who threw the first insult by calling JXScripts out (without realising) on their badly written scripts. Secondly, in what way are you coming to the conclusion that my tutorial is how JXScripts learned to script? If it were from one of my tutorials, how did they get their hands on my tutorial before I even recorded it? I don't particularly care that they are creating bad scripts, the thing I care about is that they are trying to sell them. The only reason they have succeeded is through a lack of competition. Personally, I don't have the time (as I've said numerous times before) to compete. It did appeal to me once, I thought about it, and I even had graphics made up and began making a website, but I couldn't find the time to finish the website, let alone to make enough scripts to develop any realistically sized database. Based on your first response here, my only knowledge of you was that you immediately assumed that his script was badly written, in spite of the fact that the circumstances surrounding the failure pointed to a different issue entirely. So, yes, for that particular reason, you did appear to me to be an idiot. For the fact that you are now trying to reproduce an argument which is already being had here, well, you're not helping yourself.
You cannot fail, so I'm lowering the standard.
And still you manage to piss people off. Do you ever take one step back and actually think about your actions and how you talk to people? It's a good starting advice.
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Now get me someone that fins ur tutorials useful. Anyone who wants to learn, knows where to find knowledge on this forum. Ure just a bit older kiddo with slightly bigger vocabulary of english than average aged user on this forum, trying to boost ur own selfconfidence online. If u were of any use u'd contribute to our community rather then flaming and talking non-sence. Cure ur complexes somewhere else plax.
@XtrmJosh
I'll just answer your first question since I can't be arsed reading such a long posts from you. So first of all.. I didn't say JX's scripts are badly written or anything. If I knew it was their scripts my first guess on his problem would be something else than badly written scripts, he just didn't give enough details that could help me understand his problemAnd no, I am pretty sure he/they didn't learn to create scripts from your tutorials but in some time there might be some people that will create threads because of your guide so will you call them idiots or whatever as well?
I am out of discussion, bye.
Oh and btw. even if they sell "bad scripts" as you said.. isn't it better than nothing? Let people who buy them decide if it was worth buying their scripts or not.
Last edited by Nakuu; 06-28-2013 at 07:32 PM.
Your attempt to get us to help inadequte is kinda late... we had already fixed his issue before any of us had even see this. Your "experiment" is just a cover story for your envy of us. You bought a script that needed to be updated because none of us had ran it since updating it, big deal get over it. Yes our code is not perfect, but really, whos on this forum is? Syntax? Spectrus? Darkstar? that's pretty much it, and I'm sure there's things they could do better. Your "criticism" is nothing more than useless garbage that you spew from your mouth. When I told you to grow up and go outside, it was so that you could be a better person. Apparently that is too much to ask from you though. You will continue to be an un-important person in life with mental issues and that's fine with me but was hoping for once in your life you would listen to the advice of another so you can better your life. This code is months and months old. Hell it's before I even joined up with JX scripts. This code will not get you banned, I've ran it on several accounts none of which have been banned.
Every post I write has been carefully crafted, nothing I say isn't though about. I don't intentionally post here to piss people off, but I'm not gonna fuck around trying desperately not to piss people off. If I think someone needs a lesson hammered into them, I will do my best to be the person hammering it in.
12 People posted on the thread saying things which generally resemble the term "thank you", and show appreciation for the video. I'm sure that at least one of the people who posted in that thread found it useful. You're more than welcome to try argue that one, but I don't think you're gonna get anywhere. The fact is there is nowhere to find knowledge on this forum. People could try to download a script, but they'd inevitably find a script from before the update in which libraries such as Forgee & Sirmate were made redundant. The fact is, this place has very little in the way of good quality resources. I have no need to boost my self confidence, as I am not confident in anything other than guiding people. I won't pretend to be an expert in Lua, nor in any of the other languages in which I can code. I have never done so, all of the videos which I make (including those which use C#, as on my YouTube channel) are written primarily based on research over experience. If someone asks me today "can you make a tutorial for how to read memory using C++?" I will first spend a few hours researching it, then convert it into a set of chunks which I can examine and talk through as I work on. At that point the video takes structure, and that is where all my "knowledge" comes from. I don't know any of the shit I talk about really, and even in assembling this argument I had to do some searching to find Lua functionality. If people would stop releasing such junk I wouldn't feel obliged to spend my time arguing, and I may well do something productive. Though I will point out that the last time I said to some people who were arguing in chat box "Stop arguing and do something productive" I was mocked and somebody tried to start an argument with me. I can't imagine that every second you're at your PC you are being productive, so I should imagine you have no such high expectations for me. I am not always in the mood to write code, nor to make tutorials, so I will not constantly be making them. I will, however, contribute when and where I feel appropriate, and once I have done the research I require.
Yes, you did.@XtrmJosh
I'll just answer your first question since I can't be arsed reading such a long posts from you. So first of all.. I didn't say JX's scripts are badly written or anything. If I knew it was their scripts my first guess on his problem would be something else than badly written scripts, he just didn't give enough details that could help me understand his problem
I am out of discussion, bye.
[QUOTE:Nakuu]I tested today my scripts today and everything works fine so seems like it's badly wrote script after all.[/QUOTE]
Are you trying to tell me you didn't post that? The implication is crystal clear, so don't try to deny it.
Within 20 minutes of inadequate posting his response (#11), I posted my script analysis. 10 minutes after I posted my analysis, tagging all of your team, the problem was fixed. Now, call my sceptical, but I smell a fuckton of bullshit. On top of that, what the hell would I have to envy of you? You're the bottom of the fucking bottom, you sell pile after pile of steaming fresh shit, and what for? A pittance. I bought a script which was not functional, why would you sell a script which isn't functional? Your code is far from perfect, it's not even consistent. There is a saying amongst the software testing industry, and it goes something like "It's ok to be wrong, provided you are consistently wrong." It's quite acceptable to do something wrong, as long as you are consistent, because when you are consistent it is easy to trace and fix these issues.
If you're gonna comment on DarkstaRs code not being correct, ask yourself this, before releasing the bot, do you think he tested it? Before releasing each update, do you think he tests it? After Tibia updates, do you think he sits there, accepts the new proxy, and waits for complaints to come rolling in before updating the memory addresses? Absolutely not. So why would you even imply that your lack of testing compares remotely to anything that he does? It just isn't comparable.
You're telling me that my life is not good? You clearly have no idea who I am, what I do, or of any aspect of my personal life. I live my life as I want to, and if that includes arguing with people like yourself, that's my decision. I spend 11 hours a day working, 3 hours or so a day on my computer on forums like this, maybe another couple of hours programming, and on the weekends I spend the most part out on my motorcycle. That's when I'm not decorating the rooms of my house, going for a drive to the seaside, holidaying in Majorca, dining at restaurants with my girlfriend of 6 years, or doing any of my other hobbies. As I said, you know nothing of my life, so don't try to judge it. Also, what are these mental issues of which you speak? Not quite following how you came to make a psychoanalysis of me based on an argument on the forum. Stop trying to insult me, and try to maintain a decent level of debate. Continuing to insult me will result in little more than your service being disrupted further by insults coming straight back at you in your own scripting thread. This forum isn't here for you to insult people, it is a place where freedom of speech is accepted, yes, but throwing pointless insults is just like sticking two fingers up at DarkstaR.
Are you now guaranteeing me that your code will not get me banned? Or am I misinterpreting your words? That's what it sounds like to me. You don't know how the detection system works, so you can't say anything of sorts. All we really know about the detection system is that it probably does work based on data farming. Data farming is a method of bot detection which works based on the concept that bots generate patterns. Running scripts like the one listed here will result in patterns being generated. The only explanation for why it hasn't caused bans so far is that the bot itself has some good randomisation features.
You cannot fail, so I'm lowering the standard.
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