Regarding Confirmation Keys

[Daniel-Sp]

Hello guys,

I have been latelly involved on some deals and been warned about RKs/CKs and how they work. I have asked a few friends of mine that are really close to buying/selling chars day by day and I have seen that there isn't a general concern about this subject. This way, I decided to open this thread to discuss.

Straight to the points, there are two faces: The Bullshit and the true.

The true: NO MATTER how many confirmation keys you purchase and use, until its expiry date, ANY older confirmation key is valid.

The bullshit: CIP says that a confirmation key is invalid at the moment the new confirmation key is entered to create a new confirmation key.

So, the newest tip to purchase an account is (from a resseler or not, with a middleman or not): CHECK THE ACCOUNT'S PAYMENT HISTORY

NEVER purchase an account if it has a confirmation key ordered until 6 month of the registry-change date. Before sending the cash after the registry change, take a look if the old owner didn't ordered any key until that date. If you are using a middleman, ask him for that before sending the cash to the seller.

Sadly I'm sure that CIP is giving a fuck for this fact since they don't allow account trading and its the only reason to have trouble with this error.

Anyway, if any of the readers of this thread want to go ahead and report it for a fix, I can give 2 suggestions:

- Correct this shit to what they say the do and they don't.
- Set a CK status USED apart from SENT on the payment history screen. So we could see if the sent RK was used or not.

THE PROOF

@smeg ordered two CK keys and used the newer first and the tried the old one and, surprise? BOTH worked. With this, we can consider that a new key don't have the power to make a old one invalid.

UPDATE:

I received the second confirmation key this morning and decided to test it.

First I used the confirmation key that I ordered on the 23th of July and I got a new recovery key for the account:



About 10 minutes later I used the confirmation key that I ordered on the 16hth of July and I got a new recovery again:



That means, a confirmation key doesn't become invalid if a newer one is being used first. So accounts can be hacked for 6 months if the old owner still has a confirmation key for the account.

Thanks for now

[moambeiro]

What a good info.

[Hammertime]

You're welcome, hopefully the information is correct. There will be a lot less scamming accounts back if this is true.

[Stusse]

What happens then if you have a CK and order a new one, once they used the 1st CK and the 2nd is on its way, Will the 2nd expire then or what happens if you enter the 2nd CK once the 1st been used?

/Stusse

[Daniel-Sp]

What happens then if you have a CK and order a new one, once they used the 1st CK and the 2nd is on its way, Will the 2nd expire then or what happens if you enter the 2nd CK once the 1st been used?

/Stusse

According to what was said at the link I posted by a CipSoft member, a new key cancell any older than that one but older keys wont cancel newer ones.

So, if I have one key and order 3 more, recieve all them and use this older one, I will still be able to use those new ones.

[smeg]

What happens then if you have a CK and order a new one, once they used the 1st CK and the 2nd is on its way, Will the 2nd expire then or what happens if you enter the 2nd CK once the 1st been used?

/Stusse

The second confirmation key will still be valid if you use the first one after you have ordered another one. 100% positive about that (own experience). I'm not sure yet if it's true that an older confirmation key will become invalid once a newer one is being used, but I will find that out soon and will post it in this thread.

[HjugO]

So, example. Old Owner bought CK and next sold character without CK, and after 30 days (Changing Registation Name) New Owner bought new CK, so first CK will be invalid and new CK will be valid.

[Daniel-Sp]

So, example. Old Owner bought CK and next sold character without CK, and after 30 days (Changing Registation Name) New Owner bought new CK, so first CK will be invalid and new CK will be valid.

The old CK will be unless only when the new one is used.

[Y2Quakepc2]

thanks, good info

[Oif]

Wow, I actually learned a lot of information that I did not know previously.
Awesome tips!