Regarding Confirmation Keys

[smeg]

UPDATE:

I received the second confirmation key this morning and decided to test it.

First I used the confirmation key that I ordered on the 23th of July and I got a new recovery key for the account:



About 10 minutes later I used the confirmation key that I ordered on the 16hth of July and I got a new recovery again:



That means, a confirmation key doesn't become invalid if a newer one is being used first. So accounts can be hacked for 6 months if the old owner still has a confirmation key for the account.

[Daniel-Sp]

Holy fuck.,..

[Userted]

That is pretty nasty....
So I guess if there has been an order for a new req key before the data has been changed to your data, you will be hacked for sure

[Daniel-Sp]

First post updated with the true.
@moambeiro @Hammertime @hugo9999 @Y2Quakepc2 @Oif @Chuitox @Stusse @Uranas @HolmaN @iMike

Please take a look and consider the steps to prevent you guys from loosing everyting you own up to 6 months after the account is on you.

For now thanks to @smeg for spending 10 euros to proof that CIP is a shitty company and deserve the death

[J.Dre]

The bullshit: CIP says that a Recovery key is invalid at the moment the new confirmation key is entered to create a new recovery key.

This is not bullshit. It may take a few moments for the database to update, but the old recovery key (or previous recovery key) will not work if there is a new recovery key. I've been selling and trading accounts for several years. This has been confirmed myself at least 3-4 dozen times. Recovery keys and confirmation keys are different. Confirmation keys do not expire for six months or until used. Recovery keys are replaced when confirmation keys are used. You can order as many confirmation keys as you like.

Tips to help avoid being scammed:

• Do not use the account for 31 days or until registration is in your name.
  Obviously, do not play on the account until it is yours.
• Leave the account empty (no items, equipment, gold, etc.).
  Why would you leave valuable items on a character that isn't in your name? Idiots deserve to be scammed.
• Request two confirmation keys come the seller.
  One for immediate use upon receiving account information, and the other as insurance if they attempt to take it back.
• After the account is registered to you, purchase extra services to secure the account.
  Purchase a new account name, change the email again, and purchase another confirmation key.
• *Important* Do not trade with people who do not have recent successful trades of equal to or greater value than your current trade.
  Just because someone bought gold from somebody, doesn't make them trustworthy. If you're buying a character from them, make sure they have character sales in their recent trade history before proceeding. The likelihood of being scammed is drastically reduced if so.
• Understand that there is always risk when trading. It does not matter who it is or what their reputation is. Ask for a middle man.
  Ask them if they're willing to use a trusted middle man. If so, make sure they understand they will not receive payment until the account is in your name - the middle man will hold the funds until this time. If they agree, there is little to no chance of being scammed, as long as the middle man is trustworthy.

[Daniel-Sp]

This is not bullshit. It may take a few moments for the database to update, but the old recovery key (or previous recovery key) will not work if there is a new recovery key. I've been selling and trading accounts for several years. This has been confirmed myself at least 3-4 dozen times. Recovery keys and confirmation keys are different. Confirmation keys do not expire for six months or until used. Recovery keys are replaced when confirmation keys are used.

Tips to help avoid being scammed:

• Do not use the account for 31 days or until registration is in your name.
  Obviously, do not play on the account until it is yours.
• Leave the account empty (no items, equipment, gold, etc.).
  Why would you leave valuable items on a character that isn't in your name? Idiots deserve to be scammed.
• Request two confirmation keys come the seller.
  One for immediate use upon receiving account information, and the other as insurance if they attempt to take it back.
• After the account is registered to you, purchase extra services to secure the account.
  Purchase a new account name, change the email again, and purchase another confirmation key.
• Do not trade with people who do not have recent successful trades of equal to or greater value than your current trade.
  Just because someone bought gold from somebody, doesn't make them trustworthy. If you're buying a character from them, make sure they have character sales in their recent trade history before proceeding. The likelihood of being scammed is drastically reduced if so.
• Understand that there is always risk when trading. It does not matter who it is or what their reputation is.

Corrected it. I just confused myself between CK and RK.

Regarding the rest, you are wrong. If the old owner buys a confirmation key before the registry change, he will still be able to hack it back at least to take all your inventory until after 6 months of the CK request.

SO:
- RK never expires
- CK expires in 6 months and its the only way to invalidate it.

I did a mistake but all the rest of the post ( including the proiof ) says that. Idk why did you stopped reading at this phrase you quoted.

So, you trade for years and didn't know that too, since your tips don't cover this case. 2 cks is bullshit since the old owner can hack all your stuff anyway.

[J.Dre]

Corrected it. I just confused myself between CK and RK.

Regarding the rest, you are wrong. If the old owner buys a confirmation key before the registry change, he will still be able to hack it back at least to take all your inventory until after 6 months of the CK request.

SO:
- RK never expires
- CK expires in 6 months and its the only way to invalidate it.

I did a mistake but all the rest of the post ( including the proiof ) says that. Idk why did you stopped reading at this phrase you quoted.

So, you trade for years and didn't know that too, since your tips don't cover this case. 2 cks is bullshit since the old owner can hack all your stuff anyway.

I'm just trying to help. It would behoove you to listen to my advice.

You don't have to be an asshole. Go ahead, don't listen to me and get scammed. I don't give a shit if you get scammed or not. I've never been scammed when trading characters.

Have a good one,

J.Dre

[Daniel-Sp]

I'm just trying to help. It would behoove you to listen to my advice.

You don't have to be an asshole. Go ahead, don't listen to me and get scammed. I don't give a shit if you get scammed or not. I've never been scammed when trading characters.

Have a good one,

J.Dre

Wtf u talking about ?

All I'm saying is that: IF you follow your advices you are not completely safe from getting scammed, Mr. perfect. Accept it. Your help is appreciated but not enough. Whats wrong with that?

You've never been scammed? You are lucky since it was completely possible following your terms.

It is something new over here and I can grantee you that at least 90% of people who is around didn't know that. Just don't be sad that you didnt know. We are always leaning.

Btw, your steps are basic. I have been scammed a bit to learn them in a hard way and the thread is not regarding it. Its only and just about confirmation key mistake from CIP.

[Hammertime]

@Daniel-Sp @smeg

Thanks for the information. The thread I linked previously is wrong or there is a bug. I'll make a thread about this in technical support and maybe CIP fix/change it.

[Daniel-Sp]

@Daniel-Sp @smeg

Thanks for the information. The thread I linked previously is wrong or there is a bug. I'll make a thread about this in technical support and maybe CIP fix/change it.

Great.. post here the URL so we will able to follow.