Self.Balance()

[DarkstaR]

Okay I understand, but for who this features (balance and market) is unsafe? For people which use foreign scripts without brain? I am using own scripts and why me and other people must suffer. We cant make full afk scripts without that.

PS. Method Self.Say() is safe...? Random Self.Say('Fuck you' + closest-creature-name) in obfuscated script is possible, so is that safe?

"Self.Say('Fuck you' + closest-creature-name)" gives nobody profit, so there's less reason to do it. Being able to check balance and/or buy things on market makes it possible for scammers embed things in their scripts to transfer money much easier than now.

We've seen it happen in a dicer script in the past. Since dicers often carry much money and stay afk in depo, it was easy for the attacker to approach ones using his script and cash out. With a way to detect current balance in bank, it would be a matter of brute-forcing world names to send a users entire bank balance. Even worse with market, it could just check if there was, for instance, a label being sold by the attacker at 198745 gold and buy that label.

[hakujewas]

That's the difference. Some features are unsafe and can be used to scam, or even create bans. You can say that he is better because he adds them, I don't care. The reason that I don't, though, is because I wont implement something that I think can have very bad side effects. That may cost me some business, but at least the business I do have can sleep easy knowing their bot provider actually gives a fuck about them.

"Self.Say('Fuck you' + closest-creature-name)" gives nobody profit, so there's less reason to do it. Being able to check balance and/or buy things on market makes it possible for scammers embed things in their scripts to transfer money much easier than now.

We've seen it happen in a dicer script in the past. Since dicers often carry much money and stay afk in depo, it was easy for the attacker to approach ones using his script and cash out. With a way to detect current balance in bank, it would be a matter of brute-forcing world names to send a users entire bank balance. Even worse with market, it could just check if there was, for instance, a label being sold by the attacker at 198745 gold and buy that label.

You can make random Self.Say('Fuck you' + closest-creature-name) and you can get ban.
You can make random Self.SayToNpc() with decreasing amount of gold and transfer gold to other character.

Is it really safe?

Okay, so I have last question. Do you release balance and market in the near future or not? People want know answer to that question too. Many people want make own script full afk and if you do not release new version of xenobot you will lose people. You are making bugfix all the time. Nothing new features. XenoBot is great bot but it needs these features to be AWESOME.

[martinpwnage]

What is this guy talking about lel? We can make full afk script and no people won't leave xenobot because its better then windshit

[hakujewas]

What is this guy talking about lel? We can make full afk script and no people won't leave xenobot because its better then windshit

If for you full afk scripts means: withdraw gold -> buy potions -> go hunt -> hunt -> sell items to NPC -> deposit gold. Good luck. If you do not know about full afk nothing please shut the fuck up. If you have something to say about WindBot you should use it first.

[Joshwa534]

If for you full afk scripts means: withdraw gold -> buy potions -> go hunt -> hunt -> sell items to NPC -> deposit gold. Good luck. If you do not know about full afk nothing please shut the fuck up. If you have something to say about WindBot you should use it first.

You're looking at how shiny the chrome is and thinking 'damn that's a great car' but you don't even consider the engine, handling & fuel efficiency.

I have confidence that I'm not going to get deleted simply because someone forgot to slow things down or didn't know that he was sending a trillion packets to the server saying 'hey look at my bot'. This isn't an argument about Windbot or Xenobot, I'm talking about any bot. Some people do things too fast, some people create a shitty bot because they learned C++ in a 90 minute YouTube video and some people don't have anything else on their mind besides money.

Obviously there is a reason why you're using XenoBot though, I just can't believe anyone that says they can't afford paying monthly for a bot when they're only $5-$10/mo depending on which one they're using.

[Relius]

Terrible news for me. The only thing I miss in XenoBot are market functions. I love market, imo the best way to gain cash. I don't understand one thing though: there are tons of ways to steal cash from people using the current functions, yet they aren't forbidden. Still, I can understand your decision DarkstaR. There are morons everywhere and u are doing everything u can to not let them hurt themselves. I have cried a river and now I need to build a bridge to get over it.

[DarkstaR]

NPC Proxy MAY come in the future, but market probably will not.

[astrio123]

Add npc proxy, create a "approve script" team, let them go threw every new script, say hello to more members and less scams threw scripts.

[Glowingstick]

NPC Proxy MAY come in the future, but market probably will not.

Is there any reason to why market wont come? Is it more detectable, will more scams occur or is it hard to code?

[DarkstaR]

Is there any reason to why market wont come? Is it more detectable, will more scams occur or is it hard to code?

A mix of many reasons:

• It's hard to ensure that users aren't using it in a malicious way.
• It's even harder to secure it so people don't get banned.
• It's not hard to code, but it's hard to maintain. Testing the stability of something as complex as the market will take twice as long as my normal update tests, and will require 5 or 6 new addresses to maintain every update.

All of these things considered, it's one of those things that I'd rather not do.