Mass Ban - Misunderstanding???????

[skurwysyn]

Can anyone tell me what the hell is going on?? I started playing tibia half year ago, and was botting half year without any ban, I was so happy that so many people complain about bans, and im still not banned to this time.Actually what happened is that today I was BANNED on 30 or more accounts. Accounts passwords and numbers were like this : number : blabla1,2,3,4,5...20 and passwrd was difficult word and also 1,2,3,4,5..20.
Thing that shocked me is that, I HAVE BEEN DELETED ON MAIN CHAR WHERE I HAVE NEVER BOTTING, WHERE I HAD 30 + PREMIUM SCROLLS.
What the hell is going on??????? Another shocking thing is that they banned brand newaccount with number for example blabla25, pass:tratra25, which had 2 days, didnt even started botting on that acc , didnt ever log in on that acc. So????? What the hell is going on??? How they are banning that my main account never botted got deleted , and another innocent account, where i have never logged in was deleted??

[basienka222]

You took the risk of botting so stop cry now.
You wanted to bot so you get punishment.

Things which I would do on your position :

1) Stop cry
2) Give few days a break
3) Make new 20 accounts and start botting again
4) Leave home go meet friends
5) Make lvl , make cash and stop holding 30 premium scrolls even on non-botted account.

Good luck =)

[MrBastard]

They get the IP + graphic card every time you log on. You can see the information sent by using wireshark. Possibly more. If you want a safe main account you need 2 computers or a fast vitual one and the the virtual/second one via proxy. Or have main over a ping reducing gaming proxy. That way you are most likely to not lose main in a banwave against your IP as both have different IP + hardware. You may even bot kinda hardcore on main with low banchance if you have alert on player detected.

[skurwysyn]

They get the IP + graphic card every time you log on. You can see the information sent by using wireshark. Possibly more. If you want a safe main account you need 2 computers or a fast vitual one and the the virtual/second one via proxy. Or have main over a ping reducing gaming proxy. That way you are most likely to not lose main in a banwave against your IP as both have different IP + hardware. You may even bot kinda hardcore on main with low banchance if you have alert on player detected.

If i use VPN, will i avoid ban from main acc?

[DarkstaR]

They get the IP + graphic card every time you log on. You can see the information sent by using wireshark. Possibly more. If you want a safe main account you need 2 computers or a fast vitual one and the the virtual/second one via proxy. Or have main over a ping reducing gaming proxy. That way you are most likely to not lose main in a banwave against your IP as both have different IP + hardware. You may even bot kinda hardcore on main with low banchance if you have alert on player detected.

Data is encrypted, you can't see it being sent.

[pajfest]

Data is encrypted, you can't see it being sent.

Do you know if the tibia client sends suspicious data to the tibia servers? Things like us modifying the client or information about our system? I don't know how their anti cheat works but my guess would be that they check for weird behaviour but I don't know if this is done server side or client side.

[Sketchy]

They get the IP + graphic card every time you log on.

They been sending non-unique system information (ie: no unique IDs), including your CPU & GPU related information such as basic model strings, in the RSA encrypted login packet ever since version 8.42 released in April 2009. The unencrypted GPU string added in 10.61 is merely a more detailed model string containing the full vendor and model names along with the supported OpenGL version, and just like the previous system information doesn't include any unique IDs and thus does't actually provide any more possibilities for detection than what was already possible with the data already gather since 8.42. Without any unique identifiers all they can do is create a system profile which at best only indicates the possibility of multi-clienting or ownership of multiple accounts but isn't absolute proof of either which is where they would have to look at other account data for more evidence.

Perhaps it's time though for a feature in bots and MCs to spoof this system information to a random or a specified configuration, if nothing else it would get rid of one point of possible evidence against you.

[NeeP]

Perhaps it's time though for a feature in bots and MCs to spoof this system information to a random or a specified configuration, if nothing else it would get rid of one point of possible evidence against you.

Would be nice indeed

[sausting]

if such a thing is possible/easy to implement

[Sketchy]

if such a thing is possible/easy to implement

It is especially for someone like DarkstaR, it's really just a matter of figuring out exactly what data is sent and ensuring the spoofed data is correctly formatted with how the client would send it, particularly the CPU and GPU model strings. The big question is whether it's actually worth the effort to implement as we have really have no idea how or even if CIP are using the data with regards to detection as it certainly wasn't its initial purpose considering the kind of data being collected, I do think it is definitely worth considering as at the very least it will somewhat reduce your risks but of course by no means would it mean you are safe.