So ever since I came back to this forum from my latest retiring I have had a huge burden on my chest although it will probably ruin my reputation I would like to talk about my time here and even the dark things that went on that not many people know about.
First off I would like to say I have never scammed anyone intentionally within any of the forums.
Anyways when I started in the botting world it was around 2008 I believe I stumbled across tibia auto I was a complete noob at botting only ever used it for mana sitting or skilling.
Anyways sometime after that I found a site while trying to buy a character called tibiaug.com(tibia underground) it was about identical to xenobot forums with a solid community(many of the trusted members here were also there at the time, but I'll get to that later). So I frequented the trade boards looking at deals and stuff never really got into the community really myself, just shadowed but I bought a couple accs off and on and that's where I met Steve(wobbz), wobbz was a trusted member of the community he sold gold and accs to Pretty much everyone at very cheap prices. Anyways I had always had a pretty good buyers relationship with Steve as I had bought quite a few accs from him throughout the tibiaug days.
A pause in my story and a bit of history of people I can remember from those days.
Royaliti- pretty much same stuff as now buying, selling, chatting
J.dre- was still telling people there stuff was over priced back then lol
Luls- pretty sure he was like 14 but everyone liked him can't remember if he was a mod
Aydin- was an active member of the community one thing I can remember about him was when he got banned for robbing someone's house in tibia(person was part of the Olympia tibiaug guild I think)
Holman-got banned for knowing that aydin was going to rob that guy or something I just remember that after the incident Holman used to make new accs and spam the forum.
Messed around- was a mod on that forum also I think can't really remember much about him
Darkstar- he had a free bot on the forum at the time tugbot. He is also a brilliant person and even though I can't say I've ever had a real convo with him I respect his computer knowledge.
pidek-he's been selling gold as long as I can remember lol there's probably no one that's been doing it longer and never had any complaints
I probably missed a lot of ppl but my memory sucks
Anyways back to my story
So I shadowed tibiaug forum for years until one day I went to go on the site and bam it was gone, no clue where it had gone(still not really sure why hux even shut it down to this day or whatever happened to hux.)
But after that I think I kinda went inactive from tibia for a bit, then I came back and remember neobot just closed its doors or something and everyone was all like wtf will we do now and I had found my way to xeno(no clue how) anyways I continued on with business started out buying all sorts of shit mostly from wobbz still but also pretty much everyone else(I was 18 and had a decent job) and at this time I was also starting to sell my accs that I bought for cheaper to buy new accs lol(yea I know it was stupid) being someone on the forum that has no real rep or people to vouch for them is hard to sell stuff but I had wobbz vouching for me as we had become decent friends. I did this off and on for a couple years.
One day wobbz msgs me and is like man I got fucked by cip I had over 600 accs in my name and they deleted them all and blocked my credit card, so he told me that he couldn't put any in his name anymore or use his cc to buy cks. Also all the people that had bought accs within his name had been deleted so people started making scam reports and he would just not reply or say he was working on getting them new accs this went on for months until finally messed around banned him.
a couple more months went by and I had started building up a decent rep as being a good seller. I was buying accs cheap and selling for a bit more and sometime during that time I had bought like 10 accs from wobbz to sell(sold some more then half got taken back, didn't really care they were 20usd each)
Sometime here I also met rosse for the first time I had made arrangements to buy an Amera ek from him
And this led to what was thought to be a great friendship. We talked most days about tibia about life about whatever really I trusted rosse. During this time I had also contacted wobbz to see if I could buy more of those 20usd accs from him, all I had known about these accs was that he had a supplier of polish decent or something he never really talked about that. But he offered to sell me his "system" a while back for I think like 2000usd, seemed like too much money for me.
However this time I msgd him I made him an offer that I would give him a percent of sales for his "system" and instead he offered me partners. I would be in charge of accs and sales he would do the "system". I asked him what the "system" was and this is when my mind was blown.
During tibiaug times with the help of darkstar wobbz managed to somehow break into the tibiaug website they stole all the user names and passwords of all the accs and made a backdoor. He also showed me proof(pideks user name and password) then he asked me this question
What is the most used tibia program that even non botters use?
I said tibiacast? He said no
I said I didn't have any idea
Tibiamulticlient.com
He had been right even I had used both the mc and tibia clients from there many times without any suspicion
He had a keylogger attached to the multi client that would only log tibia info it was also full fud and had a sorter to tell you Lvls and servers. Where did you get this from I asked and he said darkstar had made it and they used to use it to hack ot servers back in the day.
He had also told me probably a lot more but I can't really remember anyways we became partners I paid him 250usd as a buy in and he set the site up, and everything was good. Except that I was putting in 10 hours+ a day dealing with gold selling finding clients finding accs changing reg. we were making actually good money from these accs but It was caching up to me.
During this time I was also hanging out with my new friend rosse! I trusted him so much I told him everything helped him out with all his services gave him free accs, gave him access to all my accs, transfered him money through WU cause he couldn't get PayPal where he lives and just was being a good bro. Hell we had even talked that I may fly up to Argentina and meet him.
We were good friends or so I thought until everything caught up to me and tibia started to interfere with my life I was online too much and me and the gf started to fight constantly plus I had gotten a new job 21/4 in Fort Mac so I up and quit told no one just left. I wasn't going to come back at all.
Then one day rosse msgs me on fb, I was just coming home from camp, and says I have an offer for you so I replied "what's up". We made small talk I explained where I had been why I left etc. and he made the offer he would sell the remainder of the accs I had and give me half the profit. Now this was a super dick move on my part cause wobbz was my partner but thoughout that whole time I had felt used by wobbz cause I was the one spending 10 hours a day doing this. So I said yes also told rosse a bunch of crazy ideas but never went through with them. I gave rosse 20+ accs told him to change the passwords on them and start reg change.
A couple days after this I went to check my personal accs I had zero access to any of them. So I msgd rosse like wtf man in which he tells me he needed money and sold all my accs.(during the time I was gone I also found out he tried to hack my gmail but his ip kept him out and told me he tried too but I hadn't said anything)
I wasn't happy but he said he would pay me back and I wanted to get rid of all my stuff abyways.
A couple weeks later I shadowed xeno because I hadn't heard that he had sold anything and saw that he had been selling accs and collecting for himself. I msgd him pissed off and he informed me that he hadn't gotten lid for them blah blah. I knew he was lying to me I reallly did I just wanted to believe him. I can't really see him paying me back for anything. And really just wanted to get all this off my chest there's still a lot more to this story but this was Already a fuck load of typing
Rosse i trusted you man.
@Colossus what I did was a dick move man and I would like to pay you back for that
@DarkstaR would you fill in some of the gaps
@Everyone else I would like to hear questions and possibly answers to some of the stuff I've mentioned
Don't critize my spelling or punctuation I'm just a heavy equipment operator
Sorry for any problems I've ever caused
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