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    Exclamation Did I find CIP's new detection method?

    Okay, ofcourse this is just a theory, but (in my opinion), it's a damn good one.
    So about 90% of my accounts got deleted in the past 2-3 weeks (starting at double exp week, april 3rd). Since than ALOT of people got ALOT of deletions. I mainly play on Morta and there are lots of 220+ getting deleted there as well, latest being the highest EK "Azehx" (level 300). So after getting deleted I created 2 new free accounts, skilling them the first night using auto mana training, healing and eating. I wait 2 days and don't get deleted. I put one of them at thais rotworms for the first time, and yeah.. 24 after ss it got deleted. So when I wanted to try out if premium mattered, I used a prem account on the same spot, thais rotworms. However, about 15min after I started and watched my screen for the first time something stood out to me: about 70~ % of the rotworms were red hp.
    What happened was, the bot started to kill the ones with the least hp first, ALWAYS! Even if it was 1hp difference in between the rotworms (which you cant see with the naked eye lol), it would walk 20sqm to the rotworm with the least hp. You can try and claim someone was bored and put all the rotworms in the cave on red hp, but I won't believe that. I actually think this is a good option of being one of the new methods of CIP, could be at least

    Sadly, before I paused my bot most of the rots were killed by me already - but I'll try to get a tibiacast recording if it happens again. Here's a screen of at least 2:






    Edit1: The carrion worm I hit myself, paused it while hitting it.

    Edit2: I recorded a tibiacast (with only a few red rots left), how do I publish it without actually publishing it? Like can I share it through link only or sth?

    EDIT3: I just published it, fk it. Here you go: https://www.tibiacast.com/recordings...ple=no-enemies






    EDIT4: Manual players experiencing the same thing: http://forum.tibia.com/forum/?action...readid=4361002 .
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    Its just the settings your using, you don't have to attack the monster with lowest hp first, I haven't botted in a while but im sure you can configure it for proximity, etc. So if cips new detection is placing red hp monsters in spawns because bots attack lowest hp monster first this is a very sad detection tool. Kudos to you anyways for trying to contribute and help!

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    I've not been using bot since about two years now but I noticed what you experienced in this rotworm cave many times and been wondering why there is creatures with not full health randomly all over the world.

    I have a hard time to believe that there is players that goes around and brings creatures down to random health all over the world. I did not give it much thought but I thought it was weird that I find this so often now and never in the past. Now I see you writing about this and I start think it actually could be something cip does.
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    Wouldnt it be more human-like to actually kill the lowhp monsters first, just like the bot does in this case?

    /Stusse

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    Never seen something like this, the accounts I got deleted on and were right in front of my face had nothing to do with attacking low hp monsters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stusse View Post
    Wouldnt it be more human-like to actually kill the lowhp monsters first, just like the bot does in this case?

    /Stusse
    It is. However, running past half a cave for a rotworm with 1 hp difference that you can barely see without a microscope is not. And doing this without a single "mistake" is also not very human-like ;p


    Quote Originally Posted by Abbepowerd View Post
    Never seen something like this, the accounts I got deleted on and were right in front of my face had nothing to do with attacking low hp monsters.
    I'm saying it's one of the method's CIP is using at the moment, not that it's the only one. About "the accounts I got deleted on and were right in front of my face had nothing to do with attacking low hp monsters", you simply can not know that. CIP is known for waiting with the deletion for a bit while they already detected you. It's not like if you see yourself getting deleted that it was because of the action that was happening right at that moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iko View Post
    It is. However, running past half a cave for a rotworm with 1 hp difference that you can barely see without a microscope is not. And doing this without a single "mistake" is also not very human-like ;p




    I'm saying it's one of the method's CIP is using at the moment, not that it's the only one. About "the accounts I got deleted on and were right in front of my face had nothing to do with attacking low hp monsters", you simply can not know that. CIP is known for waiting with the deletion for a bit while they already detected you. It's not like if you see yourself getting deleted that it was because of the action that was happening right at that moment.
    Nah I mean I wasn't afk botting at all, never seen anything like this and I usually don't afk bot. Sure this could be something or it might just be someone who left rotworms there, you never know.

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    I have seen the same thing happen in hidden lizards only a few lizards on the second floor were with deep red hp like 3 or 4 of them I kind of found it odd to the rest were full green

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbepowerd View Post
    Nah I mean I wasn't afk botting at all, never seen anything like this and I usually don't afk bot. Sure this could be something or it might just be someone who left rotworms there, you never know.
    Ah, I understand. Well, let's find out if it's a coincidence (people leaving them at those hp %s) or an anti-bot measure than!

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