Quote Originally Posted by shnoob3 View Post
I was implying that for healing (and manual opening/script looting if applicable) that BlackD Safe Cheats, Xeno, Probably Wind as well idk i know others but i haven't experienced using that one. these three doing only the aforementioned, SHOULD be ok. using any kind of tool puts the risk factor in the users hands regardless of my personal experience. I got replys saying many other things, as far as botting bunches of characters for tons of hours afk, yeahof use at your own discretion no matter what but I MYSELF have had no issues and no account bans yet using either the BSC or Xenobot for HEALING and LOOTING..... I also purposely set where applicable for the occasional poof and not 100% accurate healing as that is more than not inhuman..... also from personal experience any suggestions you can make to make the game better and be an active part of the tibia community to keep the game at its best will mostlikely put favor on you regardless of tools etc... again my opinion but then again its all from my personal experiences.

And i'm not saying i never use scripts to hunt or run around as all the scripts i wrote for me can be run full AFK but i watch and roll with what's on the screen or who....

completely randomized waypoints? like a node? not exactly sure what that means....
If people aren't lying there was reports of getting deleted by only using healing in wind/xeno. Maybe because of reports of fast healing and CIP indeed checked some data gathered from a player and saw that the character hunts in a very efficient/fast way of healing? Who knows.

What I mean by randomized waypoints is:
- Not going trough the same route always (having 3 or 4 routes to go dp/hunt/dp)
- Not going up/down the same SQM of stairs or going to the same depot chest when depositing. (I had more than 80 lines of code in Wind in Edron scripts just for looking which depot sqm should I go. It would choose from ALL dp chests from all floors when depositing)
- Not staying in the same SQM when doing certain actions, like depositing or buying pots
- Having a break each 30-45 minutes, for 2 minutes, when there's no monster on screen to "go to bathroom" or eat, and while doing this pause turn everything else off (auto eat, auto gran lux, etc)

Those are only some measures but still it's easy for CIP to server side detect a botter if they want. Examples (I'm saying only by the bot I had, wind, but I believe it's similar to Xeno):

- When looting human players pick loots from a somewhat random'er order than bots, and sometimes we miss the right bp and throw gold coins on rare bps. (if CIP did this check we could never know but I doubt they would want to have this amount of work for this)
- Botters have botters bp and dp setup, with the right colors and bp arranged in some botting way
- Hunting manually I use diagonal moves a lot (I'm a RP), when botting I only use it when trapped or using some randomized walking path (dp/hunt/dp).
- The distance we keep from monsters is usually static (not using any other LUA that could change it), so it's clear when we see someone botting by the distance they keep immediately from a monster.

There are much more space to improve. I'm reading more papers on server sided detection methods for MMORPG to see if there is something clear that cheaters aren't doing, but I see basically 99% of the botters hunting with static scripts, that doesn't explain people getting deleted by only healing or training with mad sheep (unless they are mcing).