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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesseh View Post
    DarkstaR, I've never used Xeno because when I registered here I didn't used the trial, didn't knew it was tied to your registration date, and now it's gone, but I believe it works basically as Wind detection-wise (the one I use now because I already have many self-made randomized scripts).

    What do you think about all those papers on MMORPG's server sided detection methods around?

    https://etrij.etri.re.kr/etrij/journ...-1385635263573
    https://wiki.umn.edu/pub/UmmCSciSeni...y_Phou_Lee.pdf
    http://epublications.bond.edu.au/cgi...=infotech_pubs
    http://www.eurecom.fr/en/publication...publi-2860.pdf
    http://www.syssec-project.eu/m/page-...er-icics11.pdf
    http://www.iis.sinica.edu.tw/~swc/pu...ification.html
    http://hiroshi1.hongo.wide.ad.jp/hir...a_AINA2013.pdf

    Many of them can be applied to Tibia, and it links deletions to the way people are botting (too much static).
    Yes, I think Tibia is using sever-sided heuristics (logistic regression or even ANNs) to detect bots. XenoBot stands up to this in many ways: timing randomization (healing and such) and walking randomization (nodes and weak nodes) are two of the major ways. Other things that make XenoBot safer is the prevention of absurdly fast actions (no other bots do this), lack of an after-death relogger (I often state my reasons for this), and a very human-like spell shooter (sometimes casting when exhausted, sometimes shooting a less-optimal GFB, sometimes trying to shoot through walls; all of these things are never done by other bots).

    Little variations in all of these actions steeply degrades the integrity of ML-base detection algorithms. This is because the ML-based heuristics used in bot detection are designed for one purpose: classification. Typically, for this implementation, there are two classifications: bots and non-bots. Because XenoBot behaves differently than other bots, it adds a lot of noise to the "bot" classification during training and makes it hard to select from prime components, even when using certain types of feature selection such as PCA or random forest. Not to mention, XenoBot is much smaller (user-wise) than WindBot, so CipSoft would likely optimize their training set to improve their classification of Windbot, not XenoBot.

    Of course, there's an alternative. Their classification engine might have many outputs: non-bot, XenoBot, WindBot, iBot, and BBot. In this case, however, the problem becomes much harder. For each new classification, you double the amount of nodes and synapses in the network (I'm assuming they use an ANN, here, as the features wouldn't fit well with logistic regression). That means: training time is exponentially harder, as the network must be fine-tuned using multiple rounds of feedback; processing takes more time, as the network has far more connections to evaluate; and detection has a higher false-positive rate, as you increase the chance of mis-classification for every class you have.

    Of course, this is all speculative and highly summarized to be at least somewhat digestible for an audience that is not well-versed in machine learning or computational neuroscience. In the general sense, though, the assumptions herein are correct, and I stand by these reasons for why XenoBot is better at resisting detection than other bots (namely: WindBot).

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    That's the one of the first posts I see with really useful content about detection methods on bot forums. Nice to hear your opinion on this. I think a lot about the behaviour of all botters and the behaviour of someone standing between total botter and human player. I try to implement many human-like things on my scripts so I can be on a different class and it makes harder to get me detected.

    Everyone making their own scripts seems to help in not getting deleted too as people will hunt somewhat differently.

    All you said makes sense when people do more randomized waypoints like @shadowart and stay way longer undetected on their radar too.

    I'm still in doubt about botting with MC, if the fact the CIP knows your GPU + IP could mean detection more easily, I tend not to use it because of that.

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    I just lost all my accounts for the second time in 4 months

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    I just lost all my accounts for the second time in 4 months
    aww shit

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