To set some things straight regarding TUG, most known as TibiaUG.
There was an incident as mentioned including shitloads of people (archi, me, nathan, brandon, mike etc etc). Anyhow, the staff partly backstabbed the other part of the staff by leaking information from a private skype conversation, cuasing people to go banana, specially between the staff. I was scammed by another staff member on behaf of the owners. Keep in mind that we were all very tight at this moment, I must have had like 20-30kk laying around free in a house with everyone invited. It was much money at this time, not like now. So I, with the hand on my hearth, along with @XtrmJosh, decide to fuck hux over for being such a douch. I stand for what I did, that jerk deserved it all.
In the same run, @DarkstaR opened up XenoBot for the public with a brand new forum and everyone who was on the previous site for the bot (like 95%) left and came here. The site had no mods, no members etc etc. Everyone was split. So he decide to shut it down. Couldn't feel anything else than happy about it to be honest. I'm for sure not the only one.