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    I have a little question, if I only inject it, without putting any function (no heal,no cave it,no loot,...) and that I am reported, does Cip will be able to detect it?

    I know you said that Xenobot is not 100% safe, but I just want to understand how the detection works.
    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxroyalsxx View Post
    I have a little question, if I only inject it, without putting any function (no heal,no cave it,no loot,...) and that I am reported, does Cip will be able to detect it?

    I know you said that Xenobot is not 100% safe, but I just want to understand how the detection works.
    Thank you
    What would be the point injecting without using any features?

    /Stusse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stusse View Post
    What would be the point injecting without using any features?

    /Stusse
    He probably means because of auto inject.
    @xxroyalsxx It will be fine, the only detection they have is server-sided, so it wont know the bot is injected if you're not using any features.

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    Thinking of botting a moneymaker on a different account than My main. Any chance of the main account which i've used bot months ago to get deleted cuz of the moneymaker? ( thinking IP vise etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by attepatte View Post
    Thinking of botting a moneymaker on a different account than My main. Any chance of the main account which i've used bot months ago to get deleted cuz of the moneymaker? ( thinking IP vise etc)
    Yes, they've been known to link accounts together and ban ones that don't even bot.

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    [*]Do not talk about botting in game, even if its in a private message to a trusted person. For all you know, cipsoft can be searching logs for people talking about botting.


    I can absolutely confirm that our converstations ARE recorded. The reason I am able to say this is maybe 2 months ago someone reported a statement that I said because it was insulting. The statement I said was so VAGUE because I was splitting the sentances into multiple lines so I figured I could surely pull one over on them and argue that the statement was NOT a punishable offence.

    WRONG. I promptly received an email back from a CIP team member with a good chunk of the convo proving that infact I had said something extremely offencive. Fact is they DO have a way to storing our conversations regardless of wether it's a private message or not.

    Here is what the rule violation report said on my Tibia Account page

    Date: Oct 06 2015, 11:51:43 CEST
    Last Edit Date: Oct 07 2015, 10:41:16 CEST
    Acknowledgement Date: Oct 06 2015, 16:11:08 CEST
    Character: ##########
    Severity: Mild
    Reason: offensive statement
    Comment: Offensive statements are a violation of Tibia Rule 2a
    Statement: "Poland is just as bad" (Oct 03 2015, 19:35:45 CEST, in Private Message)

    Seem's pretty inocent right?

    And here is the response I got back from CIP upon complaining about the violation
    For the record I feel bad for saying what I did and really dont have anything against Polish people. This kid was just being an asshole and this doesn't excuse my racism. (Sorry in advance folks)

    Thank you for your request.

    You have received an entry in your rule violation record for making an offensive statement, which is a violation of the Tibia Rules. We have carefully reviewed the entry.

    Here is an extract from the chat log on which the entry was based:

    Private Message 03.10.2015, 19:35:45 ####### Poland is just as bad
    Private Message 03.10.2015, 19:35:53 ####### its a shame it wasn't wiped out during
    Private Message 03.10.2015, 19:35:56 ####### WW2

    The entry in the rule violation record was justified. I am afraid we are not prepared to remove it. Please read the Tibia Rules at http://www.tibia.com/support/?subtopic=tibiarules carefully and follow them at all times to make sure your account will not be punished again.

    Kind regards,
    ######
    Tibia Customer Support

    Moral of the story is don't be a racist asshole
    And don't think that because you're splitting up your sentances into multiple lines that you're off the hook from statement reports.

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    I'd also like to add that I've had 2 accounts deleted while using Xenobot. Here's the details on my bans.

    First account had 2 level 110-130 KNIGHTS. I had more or less just got the account premium for the first time and had moved both chars to Liberty Bay to do the Pirate Task and farm the boss items.(I have done this on 2 other accounts prior with success)
    I botted one of the knights down to about 18 hours of stamina when I decided I was going to go to out and meet a friend. I ended up staying out for WAY longer than I had expected and came back to find the character had maybe 10 hours of stamina, getting(Half i think) EXP and zero loot. Next day the account was deleted. I've heard that botting Nargor Pirates is just asking for a deletion but I'm sure it was because of the stamina and duration of which I hunted for.

    Second account had one KNIGHT level 98 FACC. I had botted the character from 1-98 in about 2 months (Go me)using various scripts downloaded from reliable sources and a lot that I made myself. (I always put tons of time making my scripts being sure to test, test and test again for zero chance of getting stuck and smooth flowing waypoints. I also make them in spawns that you would never expect to see a botter because they're WAY out of the way or they're very difficult to get to for one reason or another. But when the account got deleted I was running him in Orc Fortress using a script that I had downloaded but EDITED to drop the Halberds in the non-reset tile in the sewer, That is in my opinion the reason I was detected. Every lap it would go to the exact same spot and drop loot in the exact same tile using the exact same delay.

    Hopefully some of you will find this helpful when using/making scripts and avoiding deletion, I surely learned something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Menbro View Post
    [*]Do not talk about botting in game, even if its in a private message to a trusted person. For all you know, cipsoft can be searching logs for people talking about botting.


    I can absolutely confirm that our converstations ARE recorded. The reason I am able to say this is maybe 2 months ago someone reported a statement that I said because it was insulting. The statement I said was so VAGUE because I was splitting the sentances into multiple lines so I figured I could surely pull one over on them and argue that the statement was NOT a punishable offence.

    WRONG. I promptly received an email back from a CIP team member with a good chunk of the convo proving that infact I had said something extremely offencive. Fact is they DO have a way to storing our conversations regardless of wether it's a private message or not.

    Here is what the rule violation report said on my Tibia Account page

    Date: Oct 06 2015, 11:51:43 CEST
    Last Edit Date: Oct 07 2015, 10:41:16 CEST
    Acknowledgement Date: Oct 06 2015, 16:11:08 CEST
    Character: ##########
    Severity: Mild
    Reason: offensive statement
    Comment: Offensive statements are a violation of Tibia Rule 2a
    Statement: "Poland is just as bad" (Oct 03 2015, 19:35:45 CEST, in Private Message)

    Seem's pretty inocent right?

    And here is the response I got back from CIP upon complaining about the violation
    For the record I feel bad for saying what I did and really dont have anything against Polish people. This kid was just being an asshole and this doesn't excuse my racism. (Sorry in advance folks)

    Thank you for your request.

    You have received an entry in your rule violation record for making an offensive statement, which is a violation of the Tibia Rules. We have carefully reviewed the entry.

    Here is an extract from the chat log on which the entry was based:

    Private Message 03.10.2015, 19:35:45 ####### Poland is just as bad
    Private Message 03.10.2015, 19:35:53 ####### its a shame it wasn't wiped out during
    Private Message 03.10.2015, 19:35:56 ####### WW2

    The entry in the rule violation record was justified. I am afraid we are not prepared to remove it. Please read the Tibia Rules at http://www.tibia.com/support/?subtopic=tibiarules carefully and follow them at all times to make sure your account will not be punished again.

    Kind regards,
    ######
    Tibia Customer Support

    Moral of the story is don't be a racist asshole
    And don't think that because you're splitting up your sentances into multiple lines that you're off the hook from statement reports.
    Gotta love the comment tho, so funny. Yet racist, xD.

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    Just lost ~230ek with activited pacc. Botted for 8h daily on empty spot. Someone tried to lure mobs on me and reported. Imho they dont detect it but delete after report. Used 7 other chars at this time and other arent banned.

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    Next ek 120lvl lost. I run script and minimalized window for over 1h. Script crashed and bot stayed in depo for 60mins. Account deleted

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