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    Quote Originally Posted by Syntax View Post
    For the longest time JXScripts was using obfuscation to protect it's scripts using getUserName().
    There was a major decline in script sharing when it was introduced, near none.
    It's impossible to negate all sharing, even with encryption.

    1. Read a fucking book.
    2. Use getUserName().
    3. Stop using the current piss poor obfuscation technique everyone is using and come up with your own.
    4. Compile to bytecode and strip debug information

    Yes, WindBot has functions that XenoBot doesn't have. Yes, they would be great to have. Yes, most of them you can make on your own in the meantime.
    If you really can't live without the function and you can't make it, go to WindBot.
    XenoBot has enough capabilities to make great scripts as long as you take the time to do it.
    If you copy and paste community scripts together into a barely working pile of shit, then yes it won't work as great as you want.
    I've seen your code, it's garbage, don't complain about something you barely know how to scratch the surface of.


    Is Xenobot a good bot for experienced scripters?
    Yes.

    Is Xenobot a good bot for beginner scripters?
    Somewhat. It's definitely a learning curve. http://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html
    Really nice post

    1. I probably have read more books last year than you ever had in your hands
    2. No shit, Sherlock.
    3. How about, it's not the point of this thread?
    4. Ok, so that's what you do and that's why you had to ask DarkstaR for .xblua

    Who copies community scripts? Rofl, the only think I copied was ReachDepot because it was actually quite fine.
    Whose code you call garbage? I am not sure but I think it's your code that has the most problems and most bugs reported and please, don't tell me it's because you have more customers because you probably don't (at least not anymore). If your code is so perfect what you had to switch from your own shooter to XB? Yeah, it's probably better but yours was garbage. Of coruse my shooter is not better than XB's but it's actually not that bad... at least for those who don't have shitty PCs.

    Anyway, thanks for your post, had a good laugh. I think you are #1 on my least respected people list on this forum - being an Admin, abusing your position for your own profit, well played, really well played.
    Last edited by Nakuu; 01-19-2015 at 04:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey View Post
    Hahahahahahaha true story

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    hahahahahaha true story

    Quote Originally Posted by Nakuu View Post
    Dear DarkstaR, moderators and XenoBot community,

    1) Recently we at SolidScripts and more people have noticed our scripts being shared amongs users and even moderators on XenoBot. Some people considered 'trusted' or that somewhat have a more responsible state have even proven to share our scripts and even taunt us with it since we can do nothing about it. This has become a huge problem for us, especially as we have a quite big rework ready to be released, but we can't do it because we know what will happen.

    We thank our loyal customers that do buy their own scripts instead of sharing them, and we do not thank moderators/higher standard users that do share our scripts (some even on their own website) and taunt us with it.

    2) We have been asking @DarkstaR for a long time for method to within XenoBot user-lock our scripts without any response. What do you other moderators think (except from those who are already sharing our works), is it reasonable only one script team should have access to such method? Would it be reasonable that other script services could also use this method in order to maintain the developing of XenoBot scripts and the inspiration to push this bot further? As mentioned before we have a pretty big update almost ready, but we feel very de-motivated releasing it in this state of XenoBot.

    We will not and can not keep on developing good quality when we know that sharing is a big problem, especially when we know how easy it is to fix it. One could argue we should fix our own user-lock method, we believe that the only real protection could be through XenoBot. We've been offering to write the algorithm ourself for DarkstaR just to add it, but yet again we have not recieved any message back.

    3) We now ask the community's input on this matter, both users' and moderators' and of course DarkstaR's input. If we got access to such lock-system we would be able to push this release, improving the scripts quality and pushing the bot further. We would even be willing (for the community) to lower the prices of each script so more would have the ability to bot properly with XenoBot.

    WindBot 3.0 is on the horizon and XenoBot has lately been lacking improvements or listening to the voice of the community or the scripters who actually push this bot forward. This is no offense to you DarkstaR, we know you have a lot going on outside XenoBot, but we simply care about XenoBot. What's going to happen if all scripters get de-motivated due to people and even moderators sharing their scripts? There is an alternative platform where all script services are equal and there will soon be a 3.0 version of that bot. Listening to the scripters suggestions in how to make better scripts for the users is of our point essential.

    Yet again this is merely a friendly suggestion for us to keep motivated, for the users to have reliable scripts to use with the bot, and for XenoBot to be developing further. We know there are more scripting services out there, and we really want to make the scripting service market equal in order to push the bot further. Fair competition is good for the developing.

    Community, moderators, users: What is your input? Would you want to see user-lock as a motivation for scripters to make more advanced and stable scripts? Do you think this should be available only for DarkstaR's own scripting service or for all scripting services that applies for it? Do you think an equal competition amongs scripters are good for the bot, or do you rather want the polarized option where one have monopoly, de-motivating the others?

    This petition was written and applied by:

    Sincerely,
    SolidScripts.
    Since im one of the people in that skype group and one of the most active people there let me clarify some stuff for you and rest on this forum

    Your scripts are Laughed at in that group and NOONE wants to HAVE them (Solidshit) , i am not amongst those who share them not do i want them and there is way 2 many people that would agree on that

    now to the other matter at hand , getFuckingUserName()
    !!!!!!! if JX are using it and it stopped "sharing" for them it should stop it for you to , if some nolife kid wanted to "CRACK" it they would CRACK THEIRS OVER YOURS just for logical reasons , Now stop this bullshit post and Darkstar wont do shit about shit thats why this bot is dieing and gettin rekt by all the other bots out there .

    Sandnegro out Peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fenol View Post
    Hahahahahahaha true story



    hahahahahaha true story



    Since im one of the people in that skype group and one of the most active people there let me clarify some stuff for you and rest on this forum

    Your scripts are Laughed at in that group and NOONE wants to HAVE them (Solidshit) , i am not amongst those who share them not do i want them and there is way 2 many people that would agree on that

    now to the other matter at hand , getFuckingUserName()
    !!!!!!! if JX are using it and it stopped "sharing" for them it should stop it for you to , if some nolife kid wanted to "CRACK" it they would CRACK THEIRS OVER YOURS just for logical reasons , Now stop this bullshit post and Darkstar wont do shit about shit thats why this bot is dieing and gettin rekt by all the other bots out there .

    Sandnegro out Peace.
    You have no idea what you are talking about so just don't waste my time and do not quote me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakuu View Post
    Really nice post

    1. I probably have read more books last year than you ever had in your hands
    2. No shit, Sherlock.
    3. How about, it's not the point of this thread?
    4. Ok, so that's what you do and that's why you had to ask DarkstaR for .xblua

    Who copies community scripts? Rofl, the only think I copied was ReachDepot because it was actually quite fine.
    Whose code you call garbage? I am not sure but I think it's your code that has the most problems and most bugs reported and please, don't tell me it's because you have more customers because you probably don't (at least not anymore). If your code is so perfect what you had to switch from your own shooter to XB? Yeah, it's probably better but yours was garbage. Of coruse my shooter is not better than XB's but it's actually not that bad... at least for those who don't have shitty PCs.

    Anyway, thanks for your post, had a good laugh. I think you are #1 on my least respected people list on this forum - being an Admin, abusing your position for your own profit, well played, really well played.

    1. Congrats, put it to use.
    2. This was directed toward your request for encryption, it's a good alternative.
    3. This was also directed towards your request for encryption (most of your post), it is required to effectively use getUserName()
    4. JXScripts was using our obfuscation for a very long time with much success. We mainly wanted encryption because we thought obfuscation was slowing down our scripts (turned out to not be the case)

    If your scripts aren't copy and pasted together I have less respect for you. I seriously think it's appalling to sell the scripts you do to the public. I wouldn't release a script for free if it had the quality of yours, I would be embarrassed.
    You might have more customers now, but they aren't paying customers, please obfuscate your scripts better and lock them. Don't use Dropbox to distribute, it hurts all of us paid scripters.
    Our shooter functions better in some situations actually, and JXScripts still uses it (people can use the native shooter if they wish to configure it). However it does draw more power and fights other native bot functions in some instances.
    It's not a black & white situation. Don't try to compare code.

    Likewise, and I've been helping this community since I got here, before I was admin. You use my functions I made you, you've probably use XenoMap I've made you. I've earned my place here, and just because I can turn a profit doesn't make it abuse.
    JXScripts already had a monopoly when I joined, I just made it better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakuu View Post
    You have no idea what you are talking about so just don't waste my time and do not quote me.




    just sayin if GetUsername is crackable people would crack JX -> yours

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    @fenol, SolidScripts are pretty good, honestly I've never bought any script (I just tested few free from SS), coz I am pretty good in these cases, but every single programmer wants to earn some money from spending time for creating fucking Walker or LUA scripts, and a lot of guys wants for free, okay we have getUserName() function, but when we obfuscate script (string.dump() method) we got fucking webdings hashtags, but this script is still not encrypted, and we can deobfuscate this (any1 can do this with IQ higher than snake), and whole job is gone, okay some privileged guys have *.xblua encryption, I don't care, example jxscripts, and this DarkstaR magic encryption is still breakable, just gimme PHP code for file encryption, I'll do this, I had a contact with one guy who already made it.

    Guys. Look at WindBot, RedBot, iBot or whateva shitty bot, they still don't have file encryption and authors of scripts still have real profit. Ask Eli, BugWT, Garkstal? I don't know excaly who making.

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    Kinda agree with Nakuu I guess. Not sure why/what all this drama is about but I'm guessings it's some old history...

    Anyhow, how do you use getUserName()? Wouldn't you manually have to edit it every time you sell a script or so?

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    @fenol

    If nobody wants our scripts, why are people still coming back to purchasing and why did Furpan release them for free on his website if he thought noone would profit from them? It's fucking embarrassing he only got a fraction for it, I believe if it would have been against another scripting group he would have been banned by now. He is that nolife kid that do de-obfuscate them and release for free. By some reason he did it against us and not JX or any other scripters, even when I asked politely he didn't even give any reason for to do so. About getUserName(), JX are using it, we could be using it, difference it they can protect it through XenoBot we can't. I'm sure Furpan will release them for free even if we remade our obfuscation. Pretty funny how you @Joshwa534 is a moderator on XenoBot, you're aware of the problem in the Skype chat and does not a fuck about it. I'm not angry with you Josh u know I aint, I just think perhaps a moderator should take problems seriously when you know that's the case.

    "Now stop this bullshit post and Darkstar wont do shit about shit thats why this bot is dieing and gettin rekt by all the other bots out there." -u fkn w0t m9?

    Sandnegro out Peace.

    /Stusse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unuke12345 View Post
    Kinda agree with Nakuu I guess. Not sure why/what all this drama is about but I'm guessings it's some old history...

    Anyhow, how do you use getUserName()? Wouldn't you manually have to edit it every time you sell a script or so?
    First proximity now this? why are u making scripts bro?



    Quote Originally Posted by Stusse View Post
    @fenol

    If nobody wants our scripts, why are people still coming back to purchasing and why did Furpan release them for free on his website if he thought noone would profit from them? It's fucking embarrassing he only got a fraction for it, I believe if it would have been against another scripting group he would have been banned by now. He is that nolife kid that do de-obfuscate them and release for free. By some reason he did it against us and not JX or any other scripters, even when I asked politely he didn't even give any reason for to do so. About getUserName(), JX are using it, we could be using it, difference it they can protect it through XenoBot we can't. I'm sure Furpan will release them for free even if we remade our obfuscation. Pretty funny how you @Joshwa534 is a moderator on XenoBot, you're aware of the problem in the Skype chat and does not a fuck about it. I'm not angry with you Josh u know I aint, I just think perhaps a moderator should take problems seriously when you know that's the case.

    "Now stop this bullshit post and Darkstar wont do shit about shit thats why this bot is dieing and gettin rekt by all the other bots out there." -u fkn w0t m9?

    Sandnegro out Peace.

    /Stusse

    If people are coming back and purchasing why are u crying????????????????????????????? Furpan doesnt share nor use your scripts he uses his OWN scripts and i use a few he made they are quite unique and good , back to the josh , He cant do shit cuz he doesnt know 50% of the people in the chat its a random chat , secondly most scripts people share from SS is followed by , WHO DARES TO TRY solidshit? OR 30 min later im still in town resupplying , Just saying
    No disrespect to martin (forgee) a good friend of mine , but your lib still have some ctrl+C , Ctrl V from his WW2 lib.

    About the u fkn w0t m9 if uve tried any other tibia bot u know what im talking about not gonna advertise any other bot here on this forum i still like this most of all (for the community&drama) but for my HIGHER lvl chars i use other scripters then those on this forum.


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    @Stusse, go back to your hole. I didn't decrypt anything nor are your scripts publicly released, if they are, please provide some evidence where they came from.
    What's embarassing is the current code of your library and what Nakku has been writing in our skype chat, there's no way your team of retards would deserve an encryption in any way. If you want one, make one. If you can't, too bad.

    And stop bashing me.

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