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    A suspicious deletion and concerns about the safety of Xenobot.

    As the title says,today it happened again and i found one of the characters that i keep deleted in the middle of the day,even though i was sitting in front of computer and keeping an eye on the character quite often.

    I had 2 main characters held in the same account which is deleted today,137 RP and 97 EK. I never botted those characters maniacally,like consuming up one's stamina and switching to other one and keep up with that botting routine all the time. Character's online and hunting stats were averagely the same as a regular player.

    Following reasons made this situation a little bit suspicious in my perspective;

    1. Always botted different places
    2. Never AFK for i considered my RP as my beloved sweetheart)
    3. Mass Report? Low probability
    4. Utilized well-written scripts bought from well-known scripters.
    5. Participated in team hunts, events took place in game,made hunts manually.
    6. No MC used, I played this account on a seperate PC.
    7. CM paid a visit and caught me botting? The place is almost non-visited. I always replied PMs

    The other account which was deleted about 5 days ago held a master sorcerer and a 127 EK within. Well,i've nothing to say or plead about this account's situtation since i botted both characters recklessly here and there.

    1. Mass report ? Probability is very high.
    2. AFK most of the time
    3. Botted 2 different places all the time.

    Well i don't want to sound like a child with a mouth full of shit but these incidents got me thinking to switch from Xenobot to Windbot for i've concerns about Xenobot's credibility in terms of safety.

    Of course, nobody is forcing me to use Xenobot. It is my personal decision like everyone else. I'm conscious about the risks and accepted the consequences before i purchased the program. But receiving some suspicious deletions,as i mentioıned earlier, made me question the safety of the program. Plus, most of my friends and people,who are in the same guild as i'm,claimed that Windbot is less detectable. Some of them said that they tried Xenobot before and some not. The majority of windbot user's have been safe through all these mass ban waves,on the order hand people who used Xenobot suffered from this waves but only a small group of people managed to survive. This is the moment when i decided to switch to Windbot.

    @ DarkStar may consider this as a constructive criticism since i'm not the type of person who wants to stir up things. Like the rest of the community, my account's safety is my first priority and at this point,i find my self rightful to give such decisions.

    Regards.
    Last edited by ronay; 03-29-2015 at 06:00 PM.

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    First post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc View Post
    First post?
    ıs that so important?

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    it is considering it looks like you have only been using the bot since march 2015. That is hardly a long enough sample period. You do not mention what scripts you did you.

    Also point 1 and point 7 contradict each other.

    Your only evidence in anecdotal. (my friends no deletedsss)

    There are plenty of xeno users that don't get deleted. (more anecdotes)

    Nobody knows how the detection system work - those who claim otherwise are trying to sell you something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sausting View Post
    it is considering it looks like you have only been using the bot since march 2015. That is hardly a long enough sample period. You do not mention what scripts you did you.

    Also point 1 and point 7 contradict each other.

    Your only evidence in anecdotal. (my friends no deletedsss)

    There are plenty of xeno users that don't get deleted. (more anecdotes)

    Nobody knows how the detection system work - those who claim otherwise are trying to sell you something.
    Ah, I was talking about the hunting ground where i botted for the last time before i received deletion which occured today.

    + I don't think that those people are trying to sell or advertise something to me. I'm just comparing the numbers,that's all. Crystal Gardens,Okolnir,various places at Goroma are some of the specific places that i often botted and those places are not crowded at all,almost forgotten.

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    Do you mind telling us the name of your characters?

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    Used random waypoints? I don't have Xeno myself, only Windbot, but so far didn`t got any delete using only 1 acc with random waypoints (manual made, well written).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesseh View Post
    Used random waypoints? I don't have Xeno myself, only Windbot, but so far didn`t got any delete using only 1 acc with random waypoints (manual made, well written).
    Your 1 acc got deleted cause windbot is retarded and skips waypoints if it is on the wrong floor, etc so you were probably trying to buy potions in the middle of spawn or something else retarded like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronay View Post
    @ DarkStar may consider this as a constructive criticism since i'm not the type of person who wants to stir up things.
    Funny. You didn't give any constructive criticism at all. In fact, the only thing you're doing is stirring up things.

    I also don't see what's so suspicious about your deletion. You even admit to botting the same places over and over, totally afk, probably getting mass reported. CIP are very good at finding out when several accounts have a common owner. If you get caught on one account there's a very good chance that they'll get your other accounts as well, even if you don't bot on them.
    Last edited by shadowart; 03-29-2015 at 10:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowart View Post
    Funny. You didn't give any constructive criticism at all. In fact, the only thing you're doing is stirring up things.
    It may seem like a complain rather than a criticism to you because you didn't get the point which i wanted to put out. I cannot talk precisely for i'm not knowledged about programming but produce theories to explain the situation which occurred to me so I cannot say this or that feature of Xenobot makes it detectable. Even the creators of the program cannot speak precisely so do not expect me to speak like an expert. It is my personal decision as i posted earlier. I'm not draggin anyone forcely behind me like 'you should come with me and purchase Windbot,screw Xenobot' etc.

    And when it comes to the message, all i wanted to say is that xenobot users get deleted more often rather than Windbot according to the information i obtained from my friends (I asked almost 70~ people). It may not be accurate but is enough to comfort myself. I don't know what is going to happen when i switch to Windbot and start using it.

    Actually, to proove this claim both creators or the moderators of both forums should come together and start a common poll. To determine,the following questions should be asked to players;

    1. How many people uses Windbot and Xenobot?
    2. How many people got deleted and what bot program did they use?

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