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[J.Dre]

You are suggesting a 1000 SEK (120$) liquid cpu cooler, 1600 SEK (185$) memory, 2100 SEK (240$) motherboard, 1200 SEK (140$) SSD, 1250 SEK (145$) case and last, the unnecessary CPU for 380$.
None of this makes sense. You are spending hundreds of dollars on unnecessary items.

Lets swap the h80i (120$) for the common CM hyper 212 evo at 35 bucks. That is 85$ towards something else.
There's so much memory to chose from, they're all around 85-90$ (2x4 @ 1600), 100$ saved.
Motherboard, lets say 150$, there's many good motherboards for 150$. 90$ saved.
The Intel 530 Series 120GB is pretty neat at 80$. 65$ saved.
Case, honestly you can cheap out how much you want but for now, lets go with some popular ones, like the R5 for 120$, or why the hell not the R4 for 93$, that is pretty fucking sweet.
CPU, like I said, i5-4690k will do FINE. 110$ saved.



So that's approx 500$ in the bank and I didn't even mention the PSU, but what I said was correct, I'm talking about swedish vendors here. But he could save 50$~ and buy a cheaper PSU, like the CX series.
But wait, just for fun, lets make it 585$ because of PSU and the CPU cooler since it really isn't necessary. I don't know if the optical drive is necessary but lets say not and lets add another 50$, im a fair person. So 635$

So lets see, the cheapest 980 here is the MSI GTX 980 OCV1 for 625$, meaning we have to add 185$ for it (970 is 440$). Well shit. We have a 980 and there's still 450$ in the bank.
So lets look for a monitor then, the Samsung U28D590D and AOC U2868PQU is 430$.

Well, shit. We have 20$ left, I wanted a different 980 for you, there's one available for 660$ from Zotac.

These prices arent 100% accurate. I only used one site so you'll save a few bucks ordering from different stores and there's this:

http://www.sweclockers.com/annonser
http://www.webhallen.com/se-sv/dator...ter/fyndvaror/
http://www.tradera.com/
http://www.blocket.se/


Tradera & blocket is mostly junk, but you can find some pretty good stuff there. Also netonnet does the same thing as webhallen does, only not online, go there and you'll often find very good deals, I saved 60$ on my 970. There's also very often package deals which will save you 30$~.
If you buy used from sweclockers, tradera or blocket, you will (with a little patience) save a lot of money.
also if you live in Stockholm, I can sell you my old PSU and Optical drive for 50% store price, approx 55$ for both.



So J.Dre, does it make sense now?

But like I said, if you care for aesthetics, this is not the way to go.



Also about nichjeremy's build. That isn't decent, I'm sorry. He wasted 90$ on Windows, he bought an i5-4670k instead of i5-4690k, overkill PSU, bad CPU cooler and an optical drive. He could have bought a 970 for that money instead and a better CPU for less money.

edit: and better memory and ssd
edit2: and a better case

No, it doesn't make sense. You're putting the price tag above all else with your suggestions. That's not good advice. He gave me a budget and asked my opinion on what's best, and that's exactly what I delivered. He didn't say, "I want to have a cheap build." Otherwise, I would have given him a cheap build. Yes, I would have probably been able to do better if I had known the exact currency conversion rates, but I "ball parked" it in anticipation for inflation.

What you're suggesting is inferior in almost every aspect. The major issue with your suggestion is a weak CPU in combination with a flagship GPU - absolutely ridiculous combination for a desktop build that you want to last through upgrades down the road. The system specs I gave will last years longer, ultimately saving him money from having to upgrade to compensate for the lost performance about a year from now, offering a better foundation for upgradeability down the road. Also, purchasing a GTX 980 right now is not a wise decision (unless you get an excellent deal), especially since he doesn't need it. The 980Ti will be coming out soon, and next year Pascal will hit the market offering substantial improvements across the board. Spending $300~ on the 970 (which is more than enough to satisfy his needs & wants) is likely his best option. Everything I suggested has reasoning behind it, and actually saves him money (and time) long-term while satisfying all short-term needs and wants.

It's one thing to help, but you came here looking for a fight with your attitude. Your failed attempts at proving me wrong isn't helping anyone. This thread is a resource thread. You are proving yourself to be unresourceful. Stop trying to prove people wrong when you have no idea what you're talking about. You're only making yourself look like a fool.

If he wants to go cheap, and would like to disregard any future plans or possibilities with his build, he's free to follow your advice. But that's not what he asked for. My suggestions give him a good place to start for performance, price, and longevity.