Again i will be running this place with a friend from school that runs his own pc buisness on another island like repairs builds things like that. Hes very good but when it comes time in a year i need to pull my own weight or i feel like i have to pay him more than 15 an hour. I was thinking 15 an hour plus 8percent of store profits with 2percent increase every year
well I am gonna consider it though , do you think the hyper 212 evo is enough to overclock the K processor a little bit ? or is it even needed to clockQuote:
Originally Posted by J.Dre
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Originally Posted by nichjeremy
Action & FPS:
APB Reloaded
Assassins Creed IV Black Flag
Battlefield 2
Battlefield 3
Battlefield 4
Battlefield Bad Company 2
Battlefield Heroes
Borderlands 2
Brink
Call Of Duty 2
Call Of Duty 4
Call Of Duty Black Ops
Call Of Duty Black Ops II
Call Of Duty Black Ops II Zombies
Call Of Duty Ghosts
Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 2
Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 3
Call of Duty World At War Nazi Zombies
Call of Juarez
Counter-Strike 1.6
Counter-Strike Global Offensive
Counter-Strike Source
Counter-Strike Nexon Zombies
Crysis 2
Day of Defeat Source
DayZ
Garrys Mod
Half-Life 2 Deathmatch
Homefront
KillingFloor
Left 4 Dead
Left 4 Dead II
Medal of Honor
Payday 2
Quake 3
Quake 4
Quake Pro
Team Fortress 2
Half-Life
Half-Life Deathmatch Classic
Quake Live!
DayZ
Call Of Duty: World at War
TitanFall
Loadout
Warframe
Warface
Blacklight Retribution
Thief
Simulator & Racing:
Portal 2
Minecraft
Grid 2
TM Nations Forever
Pure
Strategy & RPG
Diablo III
Sid Meier’s Civilization V
Europa Universalis IV
Hearthstone
Age of Empires II HD
Age of Empires III
Age of Empires III Asian Dynasties
Age of Empires III War Chiefs
Command & Conquer 3
Command & Conquer Generals
Company of Heroes 2
Company of Heroes Tales of Valor
Medieval II Total War
Red Alert 3
Rome Total War
The Battle for Middle Earth II The Witch-King
Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne
South Park Stick of Truth
MOBA:
League of Legends
Heroes of Newerth
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Dota 2
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MMORPG:
Archeage
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Path of Exile
Star Wars: The Old Republic
The Lord of the Rings Online
Tibia
World of Warcraft
PlanetSide 2
Neverwinter
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TERA
World of Tanks
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Defiance
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World of Warplanes
It should be sufficient enough to handle a slight overclock.Quote:
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The Corsair RM series PSU's are excellent. Very efficient. Very silent. Very high quality. This is a PSU I highly recommend.Quote:
Originally Posted by nichjeremy
The 960 4GB is a much, much better choice than a 750Ti. Avoid old generation hardware for the cyber cafe.
30 Computers running these Stats:
Power Supply The Corsair RM series 700 watt PSU's
Graphics Card Evga GeForce gtx 960 SSC 4gb
Tower Rosewill gaming case 5 fan option
Motherboard MSI z97
Processor intel i5 4690k quad core
Ram corsair vengeance ram 8gb 1600mhz
Keyboard E-Blue Combatant
Mouse Zelotes Opitcal mouse
Head Set Sades SA-708
basic set up. not too cheap but perfect to run the newest games
also i need a good idea for a HDD i need something that will perform well because i dont want to buy 30 SSDs for these computers i dont need a fast boot drive. just something that will load fine but run these games well. i heard black drives are good. i believe 750 Gigabytes will be fine. im only running maybe 15 to 20 games at my shop.
@nichjeremy:
You can save some money with that build. For example, the PSU is pretty big. The RM550 will suffice. I can put together a more economic build offering the same performance for you later, if you'd like.
Did you read my earlier post on the previous page? I hope you did. Now is not a good time to be purchasing hardware for such an investment. For personal computing, it's not a big deal.
@Diamond.: Still waiting for your reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by J.Dre
I'm 50/50 between building a PC and getting one of the listed laptops. I don't really need portability and it does seem a desktop would be more beneficial long term.
Was thinking about building a desktop with similar, if not, the exact same parts as what you've listed in pg 10. Are all those parts still recommended? Working with around the same budget as the build estimates. Only concern about the desktop is I'm not entirely sure how to set everything up after parts are ordered. @J.Dre
Slight adjustments to that list:Quote:
Originally Posted by Diamond.
Case: I'd find another mid-tower case. It doesn't have to be as expensive, either.
GPU: I'd recommend the "FTW Edition" GTX 970 over that one - it's quieter, overclocks better, and should be the same price.
RAM: If you don't need 16GB's, don't buy it. It'll save you money and can always be upgraded later.
Other than that, it's good.
Howdy, gonna list my current build - I'm looking and wondering what I should upgrade to improve performance, I'm thinking it might be time for a new CPU and possibly Mobo - any suggestions?
Case: Antec 1200
PSU: Corsair 750W
CPU: i5 750 @ 2.67 ghz
RAM: 12GB Corsair xms ddr3
Motherboard: ASUS P7P55D LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel
GPU: GTX 750 Ti EVGA
SSD: Samsung 512 GB
So yea, builds looking a bit outdated right now - I'm not looking to upgrade the whole thing immediatley, I normally go a component every 6 months or so just wondering where I'll see the biggest performance increase right now.
@SolitaryPal,
You're going to need a new motherboard (and definitely want a new one). Motherboards are the basis for all future upgrades. From what I can see, I'd recommend a new Motherboard, CPU, and GPU. The other parts are still decent enough.
Few questions:
- What's your budget like?
- Do you want to go LGA 1150? (Less features, not as future proof, but very budget-friendly.)
- Do you want to go LGA 2011-3? (More features, more future-proof, but more expensive.)
There isn't really a budget - I'll get what I need to get.
I'd ballpark 500 GBP for now
Future Proof works better for me in the long run, so I'd guess the 2011 - 3
With that budget you'll want to stick with LGA 1150. I can get you all three of the upgrades you'll want. If you decide to go the LGA 2011-3 route, it is going to limit you to probably 2 of the 3 upgrades (at best) with that budget.Quote:
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With these upgrades, you'll be able to play pretty much any game at fairly high settings and tackle any task for a good 2-3 years. I tried to get a pretty "future proof" motherboard with some good features:
- Motherboard: MSI ATX DDR3 2600 LGA 1150 [+$110] (Amazon)
- CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K Processor 3.5 GHz LGA 1150 [+$235] (Amazon)
- GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 4GB Super SC ACX 2.0+ [+$250] (Amazon)
Notes: I recommend you get a water cooler for that 4690k. The memory you have may be a bit dated, too. You can upgrade that but it's not necessary. Just be sure to get Corsair DDR3 2400MHz memory. (It's like $10-$20 more than 1600MHz or 1866MHz, you may as well go for it.)
Thanks, appreciate it. I'm not very tech savvy and my last PC guru ended up moving out of town for work - cheers for making me a list :)
Sol
No problem. If you want to get LGA 2011 components, you'll be hitting your maximum budget with 2 out of the 3 areas I recommend upgrading. It probably isn't necessary for you. The LGA 1150 setup is very good for basic users/gamers. LGA 2011-3 is mainly for enthusiasts. The motherboard I would recommend (for an LGA 2011-3 build) would be around $300 itself.Quote:
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This thread is fucking retarded.
Yeah of course i wouldnt be buying any hardware now im just taking a step to get a basic idea of what type of hardware will run a video shop fine. Thats the easy part. The harder part is shop utilization. Desks chairs. Running a proper server for up to 50 pcs to have good internet. How i will make accounts that record hours and usage and cut people off after a certain point is harder for me. As well as figuring out a maintence schedule and what updates to run to insure that my pc isnt getting jammed up. The learning curve from hardware to soft ware is my problem, hardware is easy enough its just software and customability is getting me
The new "high end" 300 series AMD cards are going to be launched around Computex (June 2015). Might interest some of you.
Looks like the 980Ti was delayed until after June. But it will likely perform the same as the Titan X (with less VRAM) and cost less.
@nichjeremy first of all, you need more money.
50 computers is too much, consoles are unnecessary, the parts you mentioned are overkill, you're cheaping out on keyboards, mice and headsets, you shouldn't.
You forgot mouse mats, monitors, ethernet cables, ethernet switches, power strips, desks, chairs, games and windows copies.
Cheaping out on the keyboard is fine, I doubt nkey rollover will matter. You'll want a pretty compact one though so you'll leave them with a lot of mouse space.
Cheaping out on the mouse is not fine, first you need a ambidextrous mouse, second you need a good sensor. Zowie FK1 is pretty awesome.
Headset, not fine. You want a decent mic, sound and good comfort. Your best bet is probably Siberia V2, better hurry though.
For mouse mats, just pick whatever you want, I suggest cloth.
24 inch monitor 1080p TN panel 1-2ms should be fine.
As for the rest, it all depends on the place you'll rent. For chairs, I suggest malkolm.
Head over to /r/buildapc when it's time and you've figured everything out, meaning how much you can spend per computer.
J.Dre is a moron, he has no idea what he's talking about.
http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc
Here is the software you need
http://www.smartlaunch.com/
Good luck.
Wait, you're still here? I'm surprised you're still posting in this thread if it's so "fucking retarded," as you said earlier. :rolleyes:Quote:
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I tried to stay away. Don't suggest X99 boards, ever, thank you.Quote:
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You can go back to Reddit anytime now. You're still not helping anyone here.Quote:
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I am just here to prevent damageQuote:
Originally Posted by J.Dre
I have about $900 usd to spend.
I'll be using it for gaming.
Any suggestions?
Fairly busy today but you can take a look at some of the previous pages. I made some builds around $1k. In a couple of hours I'll be at a computer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammertime
@Hammertime: Here you go. This is a good place to start.
- Computer Case: Rosewill Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case [+$60] (Amazon)
- CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K (6MB Cache, up to 4.0 GHz) [+$233] (Amazon)
- CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler [+$35] (Amazon)
- GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 SuperSC ACX 2.0+ 2GB GDDR5 [+$205] (Amazon)
- Motherboard: ASUS Micro ATX DDR3 2600 LGA 1150 [+$125] (Amazon)
- PSU: Corsair CX Series 600 Watt ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Bronze [+$75] (Amazon)
- RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3 1600 MHz [+$70] (Amazon)
- Hard Drive (Storage): Western Digital 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM [+$70] (Amazon)
- Optional SSD (Primary): Samsung 850 EVO 250GB 2.5" SATA III [+$99] (Amazon)
Sub-total: $873 (without the SSD).
Taxes: Unknown
Notes: I would recommend you start with these specifications and go from there. If you can squeeze more out of your budget (about $250 more), I recommend checking out this graphics card and grabbing the Samsung 850 EVO. The 970 will offer a substantial increase in performance over the 960. It honestly offers you better performance per dollar.
You should start smaller, as I suggested before (quoted below). You will be looking at about $750-$1000 per unit, depending on the level of performance you really want to offer. You definitely want to consider what the competition is offering, too. Consider what they're doing right, what they're doing wrong, and what they could or should be doing. There are many more things to consider than just the hardware. I hinted to some of them before (quoted below). I suggest you take a step back and consider all other costs before jumping into hardware.Quote:
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Originally Posted by J.Dre
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Originally Posted by J.Dre
The case you suggested is awful and expensive for what it offers. I suggest NZXT S340 or CM Silencio 352, both good cases, I own the S340 myself actually.
As for the motherboard, you paired a matx with a mid tower. I suggest the Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 3.
As for the graphics card, I suggest picking up a 280x instead.
Screw the semi-modular PSU, get the non-modular 500W one for 60$ instead.
As for the memory, there's cheaper and better options.
Also, if you don't want to spend more than 900$, there's ways to cut corners so you can afford a 970 or a 290x.
AMD FX-8350, Asrock 970 Motherboard
I think this should be enough to afford a 970 or a 290x, if not, pick a cheaper case and you should be good to go. You should probably get the 600W PSU (non-modular though) if you choose the AMD parts.
Other than that, @J.Dre pretty decent build
Can you please, for once, explain yourself? What is inferior, what is wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by J.Dre
You suggested one of the shittiest cases I've seen.
As for the motherboard, first, you suggested a mATX board, I don't know why. Second, Gigabyte G3 is pretty cheap at the moment and superior to the one you mentioned.
PSU, it's the same thing, just not semi-modular, no biggie.
G.Skill offers superior memory at the better price.
I really don't understand what you're trying to say, if you're talking about the AMD parts, they're good, just stay away from the reference gpu coolers.
I get that you're a Intel and Nvidia fan boy, as am I, but come on, we're talking facts here, not opinion.
This thread isn't about you. Please stop targeting my posts and leave me alone. I'm tired of your childish behavior. All you do is complain and criticize my recommendations, then make ridiculous recommendations of your own based on nothing but costs associated with the build. You should not be prioritizing cost over quality, performance, reputation, or driver support when recommending parts to clients or customers. It's simply illogical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adky
The fact that you are unable to deduce my implication when labeling your recommendations as "inferior" proves you are not suited for making such recommendations to people, when there are thousands of dollars at stake here. This is just another case of you thinking you know everything when you actually don't, and it's becoming quite annoying.
i checked the other Competition Cyber pc store. its on the other side of the island. and its so messy there. they have a huge clientele but it looks like a teenagers bedroom. they dont have anything but regular mouse and regular headsets. and they just have everyone bring their own if they want better. the mouse headset and keyboard i use is a basic setup that should be fine its alot better than what their using so im only going to focus on the Pcs/games/Chairs/ and of course the mats, monitors, ethernet cables, ethernet switches, power strips, desks, chairs, games and windows copies. my partner is doing all those parts
i just want to make sure i got the main things right like the expensive hardware. and the video games. im pretty out of the loop
im using the rosewill gaming case and it works fine. i run my pc at like -40C with the fans on 50% - 75%
thankyou ill definetly be going with nvidia. i looked at the other store and they have about the same build im using in my computer. i have a way bigger area for people to come and play. i have 2 colleges with over 20,000 students and also a highschool and a middle school all within 1 mile. walking or bicycle distance. for the colleges they can walk or drive. the ideas i have are great and i think it will attract all the gamers on this side of the island. im actaully starting WOW accouints and League of legends just so i can learn what kids like now adays. again im old school i still play tibia lol...
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Originally Posted by J.Dre
You're right, I take back what I said, your build is better.
I was unaware G.Skill, Gigabyte, NZXT and CoolerMaster has slow, low quality products and bad reputation.
As for AMD drivers, I'm pretty sure they've stepped up their game.
I'm sorry, @Hammertime
@J.Dre I'll leave this thread in your hands, frankly I'm tired of your attitude. You are an arrogant asshat. @Aydin, Double standards time, I'm ready.
I think it will be fine. Just take your time planning the entire thing and don't rush anything. We don't have an internet cafe (geared toward gaming) in my town and I've actually thought about starting one myself (or partnering with someone and doing so). It can be a very lucrative business as it has mostly fixed costs and great potential to grow.Quote:
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It's no problem, I was just looking for some suggestions. Thanks guys.
Sure it works fine, it's a very old product though, from 2011 actually. There is way better options now.Quote:
Originally Posted by nichjeremy
Normally I just leave the retards alone but I'm going to come out and say that I agree with you here. J.Dre is a huge douchebag and spews bullshit in pretty much every thread I see him post in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adky
As for anyone who actually wants help choosing components, you'd get better help in a forum actually dedicated to such things.
Sometimes I forget this forum is comprised mainly of little kids... You are both being quite offensive. If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. You should start following that. This thread isn't about you or any issue you have with me.
Grow up, get over it, and move on.
Ya'll need to lay the fuck off. Dre is just trying to help people who have less knowledge about building a PC. Is everything he suggests the most optimal? Probably not, but no one is 100% right about everything.
I don't give a fuck who started what, but it's stopping now. If you're not going to help someone who's looking for help in this thread, piss off.